These two programs are clearly the gold standard. ND doesn't seem to be able to compete with the big boys anymore.
Why can't ND be more like Ohio State or Alabama?
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The offense is where it needs to be and the defense is nowhere near being a championship caliber d. They had a top defense it seems like once in the last 10 years and that was in 2012 and they made the NC game.
As badly as I want ND to win a NC I'm happy if they start to produce 10 win seasons year after year. This program is to a point now where 10 wins is the minimum for me now.
As badly as I want ND to win a NC I'm happy if they start to produce 10 win seasons year after year. This program is to a point now where 10 wins is the minimum for me now.
How's Florida doing? Oh that's right. You've bailed on them. Fake ass is fake.
tOSU or Bama?
I still can't grasp the reality that Strong took a Texas team (described by our posters as a dumpter fire) and 3 Septembers later pantsed' Kelly &Co. who are coaching the 7th year at ND
ND should be 2-0, headed to 3-0!
So next time 'that poster' , posts that Kelly himself is is good for 1 loss: believe it!
I still can't grasp the reality that Strong took a Texas team (described by our posters as a dumpter fire) and 3 Septembers later pantsed' Kelly &Co. who are coaching the 7th year at ND
ND should be 2-0, headed to 3-0!
So next time 'that poster' , posts that Kelly himself is is good for 1 loss: believe it!
So since Kelly is better than TY and Weis so its ok for ND to be a marginal program? Kelly has had 7 years and ND is still losing to teams with True Frosh QB, 1st year o Cord and true frosh center?
ND is a blue blood program and since they will not join a conference their only goal is a national title or at least major bowl wins. Kelly has proven he can not accomplish this at ND. How much time will he be given? Every year with Kelly is a year further away from ND being elite again. I don't think there are magical answers and I have no idea who the next great coach is but ND is just accepting mediocrity with Kelly at the helm. Programs like Michigan, Bama and OSU want National titles and did everything in their power to make that possible, ND can not say the same.
Wait a minute - I thought I was Brian? Worked hard for that unique distinction.
Why can't Hoosier Storm get the psychiatric help he desperately needs for his inferiority complex?
Is this one of our old goofballs recycling a screen name?
I think we've seen under Kelly that he has gotten a few talented kids in that wouldn't have gotten in before because of academics. Then look at all the academic casualties we've had recently.
ND and Stanford are both showing you can win 9-10 games and occasionally win 11 or 12 with players that are capable of (and want to) handle the academic riggers. Asking either to be Ohio St or Alabama is a bit much. A lot of those players just don't want the academic challenge that comes at ND or Stanford. Sure, it's easy for a fan to just write "NO EXCUSES" in all caps, but that's not reality.
Also, Saban and Meyer are rare breeds of coach. They've accounted for 7 of the last 10 national championships. So it's not just ND having a hard time.
ND and Stanford are both showing you can win 9-10 games and occasionally win 11 or 12 with players that are capable of (and want to) handle the academic riggers. Asking either to be Ohio St or Alabama is a bit much. A lot of those players just don't want the academic challenge that comes at ND or Stanford. Sure, it's easy for a fan to just write "NO EXCUSES" in all caps, but that's not reality.
Also, Saban and Meyer are rare breeds of coach. They've accounted for 7 of the last 10 national championships. So it's not just ND having a hard time.
Pantsed? Idk about that but yeah, it was an upset of sorts. Even though Texas has recruited as good as Notre Dame and they had the advantage of an A+crowd. Lastly, Strong isn't the normal 3rd year coach. He's been around for a long, long time. Coaching stops under Holtz (I think? South Carolina) and Urban Meyer.
The loss sucked. I didn't see it coming but I also got over it quicker then I normally do.
Beating Michigan State will completely wipe it from my memory.
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I don't ......he sucks.
He's a gran valley state lifer. I'm all about giving people opportunity. He deserved a chance up to his hiring. But it's long enough now. Elite is above his reach.
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