Or we could just beat you like the last 2 times we played which would pretty much kill your chances.
How are you ranked ahead of Northwestern?
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Do you sit at home in mom's basement staring at your glory shrine of the big Northwestern victory over Notre Dame? In the world full of few big victories that you reside I'm sure it's nice to have one meaningful accomplishment to cherish with such glee. What's scary is you probably watched both games in said basement. And they are what 20 years apart? Congratulations.
It's not quality loss - it is how well each team played. ND got jumped by three teams after winning a game against BC because score matters. If you think getting the shat kicked out of you by big boys doesn't matter then go back to preschool where everyone is a winner.
The fact that you think last year's results would matter at all in a discussion of this year's rankings is a very good indicator of your intelligence level.
Yes, same argument lots have made on here, but margin of victory/defeat isn't supposed to be in the committees decision.
Must we go back to the 'Texas beat OU' or would you rather go to 'Ole Miss beat Bama'? Should Texas be ranked ahead of OU for winning? Should Ole Miss be ahead of Bama? If you say 'no' to either one of those then how do you say 'yes' to common opponent? I will say that NU should be below UM - who solidly beat the daylights out of NU - should be ranked higher. Go ask yourself why your team is ahead of a team that stomped the daylights out of you and quit acting like beating Eastern Illinois means something.
The committee does use style points. They use something they call "game control," which is basically the same thing.
Must we go back to the 'Texas beat OU' or would you rather go to 'Ole Miss beat Bama'? Should Texas be ranked ahead of OU for winning?
No because OU has a better record. Common opponent is only a tie breaker when the records are the same.
Should Ole Miss be ahead of Bama?
No see above.
If you say 'no' to either one of those then how do you say 'yes' to common opponent?
Because record matters more than common opponents.
I will say that NU should be below UM - who solidly beat the daylights out of NU - should be ranked higher. Go ask yourself why your team is ahead of a team that stomped the daylights out of you
NU (btw thanks for saying NU not NW. I appreciate it) has a better record than Michigan so we should be above them. Michigan has a great win over Northwestern and are a very good 3 loss team like Ole Miss who has a great win over Alabama. So I would put those two teams as the best 3 loss teams.
and quit acting like beating Eastern Illinois means something.
I only said Eastern Illinois gives us less SOS points than Umass because Umass is FBS, but Notre Dame should not get any points for beating UMass because that victory is meaningless as EIU and they're the equivalent of an FCS team.
No because OU has a better record. Common opponent is only a tie breaker when the records are the same.
Should Ole Miss be ahead of Bama?
No see above.
If you say 'no' to either one of those then how do you say 'yes' to common opponent?
Because record matters more than common opponents.
I will say that NU should be below UM - who solidly beat the daylights out of NU - should be ranked higher. Go ask yourself why your team is ahead of a team that stomped the daylights out of you
NU (btw thanks for saying NU not NW. I appreciate it) has a better record than Michigan so we should be above them. Michigan has a great win over Northwestern and are a very good 3 loss team like Ole Miss who has a great win over Alabama. So I would put those two teams as the best 3 loss teams.
and quit acting like beating Eastern Illinois means something.
I only said Eastern Illinois gives us less SOS points than Umass because Umass is FBS, but Notre Dame should not get any points for beating UMass because that victory is meaningless as EIU and they're the equivalent of an FCS team.
I would love for ND to get you guys in a bowl game this year and embarrass y'all to the high heavens. Not going to happen but getting Iowa is a possibility and beating them will take care of this ignorant argument.
That explains it---you're 17 years old. Shouldn't you be in your homeroom class right now?
Oh, I see, you get to make the rules as you go along. Now the rule is common opponents matter if their record is the same. Head-to-head does not matter if the losing team has a better record. And, last year matters but only because...well, because...it just should.
I finally figured this out - YOU ARE THE DR. PEPPER GUY FROM THE COMMERCIALS!!!
Jeff Long has referred to it many times when he's been interviewed. It's basically their way of using style points, without calling it style points.
Personally, I don't like that they use that. To me, a win is a win, period. But they do use it.
I've been saying that record matters for the entire thread. Obviously, record matters.
The Northwestern kid is just looking for validation of his team. He's too dumb realize that there's a reason why Northwestern is ranked behind ND. As I stated earlier, it's because those on the committee (and those not Northwestern/Big Ten fans) not only think ND is a better team, but also regard Northwestern's victory over Stanford in the first game of the season as a fluke. His whining and moaning is nothing more than the typical Northwestern inferiority complex. I love how it eats away at him.
So you're better because you say so. Cool beans Hansel.
We beat Stanford but it doesn't count because it was a fluke. How many of our other 9 wins were flukes? Can I say our 2 losses were flukes? Was it a fluke that Stanford beat you? How about when we beat you last year? How does this make up fluke thing work?
We played the game. We won. I don't need validation. I saw it on the field. The NU defensive front dominated that game. That's no fluke. I'm just wondering if anyone around here is willing to man up and say, "You beat Stanford, we didn't. Yes, you should be ranked higher."
Are you mentally retarded? Did you finish eighth grade?
Let me spell this out one more time: ND is ranked ahead of Northwestern NOT because I say so. BUT OBVIOUSLY THE PLAYOFF COMMITTEE THINKS SO!!! And that's all that matters. So you can whine and cry until you're blue in the face, but it won't make one bit of difference.
Oh, right, you don't need validation of your team but then come up with this gem: "just wondering if anyone around here is willing to man up and say, "You beat Stanford, we didn't. Yes, you should be ranked higher." Um, that's looking for validation, half-wit. And nobody here (nor on the playoff committee) is foolish enough to say that because clearly you shouldn't be. You can think that Northwestern should be in the top ten, but what you think doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Get it now?
Wow. More attacks on me. No, I'm not mentally retarded. I have a degree from Northwestern. I did also complete 8th grade.
Yes, the playoff committee says that Notre Dame is ranked higher which makes no sense because based on the Stanford game that you lost and we won, we're the better team. Sadly, my opinion doesn't matter because I'm not on the committee. I'm also not in Congress, so my opinion on Congressional legislation doesn't matter. Do I not get an opinion? I do and if you don't like that then you can get out of America.
I don't need you to say that Northwestern is the better team for my validation of the team. I've seen them all year. I want you to say it to validate your own fan base as smart intelligent fans instead of people that follow their team blindly like sheep. Michigan State is a better team than Northwestern this year. If they lose to Iowa and are 11-2, they'll still be better because Michigan State beat Michigan and Northwestern lost to Michigan. I have no problem saying that.
The Big 10 West, The ACC Coastal and the SEC East are all pretty weak divisions. Much weaker than their conference opposites.
Not necessarily when comparing a 9-3 Big 10 East team to a 10-2 Big 10 West team.
It doesn't matter what anyone here says, it's what the committee says. Maybe they have a message board or a chat room where you could argue with them over why they think ND is better.
Not true. The BIG West is by far the worst division of any power five conference. Again, the committee made that clear in their rankings. Argue with them. ND has three wins over top 25 teams. How many does Northwestern have?
I'm just telling you the facts. You can choose to ignore them all you want.
The holes in your argument would make you lots of dollars on the street corner though
Now this is just pathetic. Please consult your phone directory for the number of a psychiatrist. Wow, just wow.
OMG, that one really made me laugh. I do love watching the Big ten getting creamed almost every bowl season because of comments like that one.
If it walks like a duck and talks like a troll, well then it's a d-bag big tenner.
Did you go to the scUM board and ask why Meatchicken is ranked ahead of Utah? I bet you didn't. Move along troll.
Northwestern what? Usually the little directional schools have state names to identify themselves.
This Northwestern Dude is being beaten like a Red Headed step child on here - funny how stupid he is to keep coming back for more.
I like how the overbite folks are all willing to hunch down to fit the little fella in the picture. I also like how he confidently claims to be #93. Let me guess, he took the field right after posing for pix with his fans.
