What are the odds that price transfers?

[4-4-3]

I have seen Love's knee injury described in various stories as an MCL sprain. I don't know that I have heard Jeremiyah himself describe his injury, though. I have never read that surgery was ever considered. A severe sprain can involve some tearing of the ligament, but usually non-surgical intervention (rest and PT) will allow it to heal. Sounds like JL had a bad MCL sprain to me.

I had THAT EXACT INJURY when I played, including the tear, but it healed on its own. It happened in a game in October, and I was back running indoor track sprints that winter.

I was a senior in HS when it happened and played football with no ill effects in college for two years afterwards. My speed stayed the same.

If that's all it is, IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

 

[chaseball]

it sucks that this place can be so unwelcoming to new posters especially ones who seem like they really want to be apart and engage. the real disappointment is that we are missing out on all the possible great contributions that that person can otherwise make. SMH

 

[sjb75]

Stop fabricating Chase. And stop whining. “Reading this site for 10-15 years” would show a join date back then

Same shit. Different day.

 

[BGI User 756]

it sucks that this place can be so unwelcoming to new posters especially ones who seem like they really want to be apart and engage. the real disappointment is that we are missing out on all the possible great contributions that that person can otherwise make. SMH

Good one. How was hurdling

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

Im going to say this one last time. This site has existed for at least 15 years.

I remember walking into my dad's office at work when i was in 8th grade, over a decade ago and him reading over this site. That's how I discovered it.

To the poster acting like a child saying I'm someone else. Get a life.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

I had THAT EXACT INJURY when I played, including the tear, but it healed on its own. It happened in a game in October, and I was back running indoor track sprints that winter.

I was a senior in HS when it happened and played football with no ill effects in college for two years afterwards. My speed stayed the same.

If that's all it is, IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

May i ask what your times are sir. I'm a big track guy.

 

[4-4-3]

May i ask what your times are sir. I'm a big track guy.

I'm 77, so I'm going back before METRIC TIMES.

10.4 range in 100 with one 10.2. Again IN YARDS.

6.4 to 6.6 in the 60. IN YARDS.

When I was running, elite 100 yard times were in the 9.2 range. Elite RB's in CFB were typically running in the 9.5 to 9.7 range.

I was an UNDERSIZED FB in HS and a OLB/ROVER/DB in D-3 college.

 

[BGI User 756]

Im going to say this one last time. This site has existed for at least 15 years.

I remember walking into my dad's office at work when i was in 8th grade, over a decade ago and him reading over this site. That's how I discovered it.

To the poster acting like a child saying I'm someone else. Get a life.

lol, you answered for Chass….

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

I'm 77, so I'm going back before METRIC TIMES.

10.4 range in 100 with one 10.2. Again IN YARDS.

6.4 to 6.6 in the 60. IN YARDS.

When I was running, elite 100 yard times were in the 9.2 range. Elite RB's in CFB were typically running in the 9.5 to 9.7 range.

I was an UNDERSIZED FB in HS and a OLB/ROVER/DB in D-3 college.

You were only a 100m guy?

Any other events my friend , just curious. I would like to know the conversions from yards to meters. Those are pretty fast.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

lol, you answered for Chass….

Reported and blocked

 

[4-4-3]

You were only a 100m guy?

Any other events my friend , just curious. I would like to know the conversions from yards to meters. Those are pretty fast.

There was no question I COULD RUN. But I WAS BY NO MEANS ELITE. Those times are good but NOT GREAT.

I also ran the quarter and very occasionally the 220. Trouble was, the longer the race, the poorer I did. I never cracked 52 seconds in the quarter, and I only ran under 23 in the 220 a few times. I didn't have the muscle mass. I was strictly QUICK-TWITCH. I almost always led after the first 30 to 50 yards. And when I lost -- which happened a lot -- it was always towards the end of the race.

As a freshman in high school, I ran in a freshman meet against Larry Schumacher who later started at ND as an LB and, typically, he beat me in the last 15 yards or so. I was pissed because he was POWERFUL and looked like he was going places.

On my HS team, I was only the FOURTH best sprinter and the FIFTH best quarter-miler. We won our division of the Penn Relays 440 yard relay in 1966. I ran leadoff as I was the slowest. Our anchor finished at 9.9 and won it at the wire.

BUT THOSE WERE MEDIEVAL TIMES.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

There was no question I COULD RUN. But I WAS BY NO MEANS ELITE. Those times are good but NOT GREAT.

I also ran the quarter and very occasionally the 220. Trouble was, the longer the race, the poorer I did. I never cracked 52 seconds in the quarter, and I only ran under 23 in the 220 a few times. I didn't have the muscle mass. I was strictly QUICK-TWITCH. I almost always led after the first 30 to 50 yards. And when I lost -- which happened a lot -- it was always towards the end of the race.

As a freshman in high school, I ran in a freshman meet against Larry Schumacher who later started at ND as an LB and, typically, he beat me in the last 15 yards or so. I was pissed because he was POWERFUL and looked like he was going places.

On my HS team, I was only the FOURTH best sprinter and the FIFTH best quarter-miler. We won our division of the Penn Relays 440 yard relay in 1966. I ran leadoff as I was the slowest. Our anchor finished at 9.9 and won it at the wire.

BUT THOSE WERE MEDIEVAL TIMES.

Very cool sir! I always told my dad I was faster than him. He always reminded me

" son, we ran on cinder tracks. You did not"

You can shave off a couple tenths of a second off your times sir because we have legit track spikes and rubber tracks!

I was versatile. You could throw me in 100m-400m. Best events were 110m and 400m hurdles.

The pain off the last 100m of the 400m hurdles is something I would never forget.

Any other track guys here feel free to comment

 

[nptb]

Very cool sir! I always told my dad I was faster than him. He always reminded me

" son, we ran on cinder tracks. You did not"

You can shave off a couple tenths of a second off your times sir because we have legit track spikes and rubber tracks!

I was versatile. You could throw me in 100m-400m. Best events were 110m and 400m hurdles.

The pain off the last 100m of the 400m hurdles is something I would never forget.

Any other track guys here feel free to comment

In high school, I told my track coach after running a 400 at the end of practice, that if he made me do that again, I would quit. 400m is hell.

 

[1Redrum]

Read recently they are really cross training Love at receiver. Makes me very happy.

He will always be rb1. But this i believe will make our offense more versatile and lethal.

Nothing like having love motion out to the slot, striking fear into the safeties that they better take a step back instead of forward when the ball is snapped.

Makes sense for Price.....
Deebo Samuel 6'0" 215 LBS
Jeremiyah Love 6'0 212 LBS
Christian McCaffrey 511 -210

So.....McCaffrey, Deebo and Love are all roughly the same size, similar skillset I think as well. Deebo makes more money by being a good but not great receiver / running back / gadget guy. McCaffrey makes less money, has made less in his career and plays at a position which gets paid significantly less than WR.

If I am Jeremiyah Love I audition for the Deebo role.....he will be drafted higher, will take less punishement and will make more $$$

 

[Golson5]

Makes sense for Price.....
Deebo Samuel 6'0" 215 LBS
Jeremiyah Love 6'0 212 LBS
Christian McCaffrey 511 -210

So.....McCaffrey, Deebo and Love are all roughly the same size, similar skillset I think as well. Deebo makes more money by being a good but not great receiver / running back / gadget guy. McCaffrey makes less money, has made less in his career and plays at a position which gets paid significantly less than WR.

If I am Jeremiyah Love I audition for the Deebo role.....he will be drafted higher, will take less punishement and will make more $$$

Mccafery makes more than Deebo this year and has made more in his career

 

[Drinking The Green Koolaid]

There was no question I COULD RUN. But I WAS BY NO MEANS ELITE. Those times are good but NOT GREAT.

I also ran the quarter and very occasionally the 220. Trouble was, the longer the race, the poorer I did. I never cracked 52 seconds in the quarter, and I only ran under 23 in the 220 a few times. I didn't have the muscle mass. I was strictly QUICK-TWITCH. I almost always led after the first 30 to 50 yards. And when I lost -- which happened a lot -- it was always towards the end of the race.

As a freshman in high school, I ran in a freshman meet against Larry Schumacher who later started at ND as an LB and, typically, he beat me in the last 15 yards or so. I was pissed because he was POWERFUL and looked like he was going places.

On my HS team, I was only the FOURTH best sprinter and the FIFTH best quarter-miler. We won our division of the Penn Relays 440 yard relay in 1966. I ran leadoff as I was the slowest. Our anchor finished at 9.9 and won it at the wire.

BUT THOSE WERE MEDIEVAL TIMES.

I am a couple of years younger than you are but I also ran track one year in HS. I was one of those jack of all trades, master of none guys. That is, I was pretty good in a number of events, but elite in none of them. I once ran a wind-aided 100y in 9.8sec, but I usually ran it in the 10.0-10.1 range. I also occasionally did the 440, but I didn't enjoy that event. The last hundred yards felt like death with all the lactic acid in your legs. I think my best time was 53 something, so you got me there. I also ran the mile a few times when the coach decided he needed another runner. I think my best time was 5:03, which felt smoking fast to me. The elite runners were in the 4:30 range, though, so I wasn't even sniffing their tail. It boggles my mind that the WR in the marathon (2:00:35) converts to a 4:36 mile pace. How can a person run that fast for 26+ miles? Crazy to me.

 

[4-4-3]

Very cool sir! I always told my dad I was faster than him. He always reminded me

" son, we ran on cinder tracks. You did not"

You can shave off a couple tenths of a second off your times sir because we have legit track spikes and rubber tracks!

I was versatile. You could throw me in 100m-400m. Best events were 110m and 400m hurdles.

The pain off the last 100m of the 400m hurdles is something I would never forget.

Any other track guys here feel free to comment

Hurdlers are the SHOCK TROOPS of running. I was always amazed at hurdlers. Felt that we were a breed above the rest of us. Thing is, I was NEVER LIMBER. I wouldn't have attempted even one hurdle on my loosest day.

What were your times in the various categories you ran in?

 

[4-4-3]

I am a couple of years younger than you are but I also ran track one year in HS. I was one of those jack of all trades, master of none guys. That is, I was pretty good in a number of events, but elite in none of them. I once ran a wind-aided 100y in 9.8sec, but I usually ran it in the 10.0-10.1 range. I also occasionally did the 440, but I didn't enjoy that event. The last hundred yards felt like death with all the lactic acid in your legs. I think my best time was 53 something, so you got me there. I also ran the mile a few times when the coach decided he needed another runner. I think my best time was 5:03, which felt smoking fast to me. The elite runners were in the 4:30 range, though, so I wasn't even sniffing their tail. It boggles my mind that the WR in the marathon (2:00:35) converts to a 4:36 mile pace. How can a person run that fast for 26+ miles? Crazy to me.

Those are DAMN GOOD TIMES for the 100. You probably would have gone UNDEFEATED against me. I never smelled a sub 10 second 100.

And, yeah, I get it about the quarter. That last 50 to 100 yards was all about GUTS. Because my LEGS at that point just werent't in it.

I worked with a guy -- he was about 5"8" -- and he ran 48 abnd 49 quarters, competing in national meets. I would have never guessed it. He went to Providence.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

Hurdlers are the SHOCK TROOPS of running. I was always amazed at hurdlers. Felt that we were a breed above the rest of us. Thing is, I was NEVER LIMBER. I wouldn't have attempted even one hurdle on my loosest day.

What were your times in the various categories you ran in?

I remember like it was yesterday.

400: fastest time : 50.8 Fastest split in relay : 49.1 ( ran race of my life )

400h: 55.8
110h: 14.8
High Jump : 6ft1

I don't have times for you in the 100 and 200, but in practice I never broke 11 in the 100, but was close

200: probably upper upper 22

Track was my best sport, basketball was my favorite sport. Problem is im only 5ft 11 haha.

Tried running in college, didn't get much attention from division 1 schools.

I struggled in college because the hurdles get raised up. No improvements.

 

[1Redrum]

Mccafery makes more than Deebo this year and has made more in his career

McCaffrey Career earnings to date: 8 Seaons $81,266,910 - Average $10,158,363.75 per season Cash this year $16,200,000
Samuel Career earnings to date 6 Seasons $64,203,237 - Average $10,700,539.5 per season Cash this year $17,545,529

So yes McCaffrey who is the same age as Samuel has made more career money as he enterered the league 2 years sooner. Assuming normal progression of WR and RB health wise McCaffrey is entering the twilight zone in 2026 at age 30 and with his injury history one can only assume his number of years is limited and his ability to sign a lomg term contract is in question. Samuel? well if I had to guess which one will be signing for more money after this year I think it will be the 30 year old WR and not the 30 year old RB.

Point really is McCaffrey is recognized as one of the best RB's in the game. Deebo? Not even the best WR on any team he has ever been since maybe the end of his 5th year in College. WR's as we all know get paid more....

 

[4-4-3]

I remember like it was yesterday.

400: fastest time : 50.8 Fastest split in relay : 49.1 ( ran race of my life )

400h: 55.8
110h: 14.8
High Jump : 6ft1

I don't have times for you in the 100 and 200, but in practice I never broke 11 in the 100, but was close

200: probably upper upper 22

Track was my best sport, basketball was my favorite sport. Problem is im only 5ft 11 haha.

Tried running in college, didn't get much attention from division 1 schools.

I struggled in college because the hurdles get raised up. No improvements.

Those are some REALLY FINE TIMES. Those quarter splits are EXTREMELY GOOD. But I'm surprised you broke 50 in the quarter but didn't break 11 in the 100. You must have been one of those runners who gets faster the farther he runs. I was just the opposite.

Look at this run by Kyren Williams. To me he gets faster the farther he goes, and it's basically 100 yards.

Kyren Williams

Me, I would have been flagging after about 60 yds.

I also applaud your VERSATILITY. And at 5'11". As it happens, that's my height as well. It would have been so much nicer to have been SIX-FOOT-EVEN.

 

[tbonesays]

In high school, I told my track coach after running a 400 at the end of practice, that if he made me do that again, I would quit. 400m is hell.

I ran a 4x4 (unplanned) at a winter track meet and tried to increase stamina by breathing deeper. My lungs started burning halfway through. Pretty sure we finished last.

 

[Drinking The Green Koolaid]

This is an old thread, but there was some back and forth here on track and field, so I thought I would post about an amazing race that just took place down in Texas. At the 2025 state 6A track and field championship, a kid by the name of Tate Taylor ran a 9.92 100M. That just blows my mind! Think about that for a minute: a high school kid equaled the time ran by Carl Lewis when Lewis won the gold medal in the 100m race at the 1988 Seoul summer Olympics. That is just smoking fast, and Taylor did it after getting a poor start.



I wonder if the kid plays football?

 

[sjb75]

This is an old thread, but there was some back and forth here on track and field, so I thought I would post about an amazing race that just took place down in Texas. At the 2025 state 6A track and field championship, a kid by the name of Tate Taylor ran a 9.92 100M. That just blows my mind! Think about that for a minute: a high school kid equaled the time ran by Carl Lewis when Lewis won the gold medal in the 100m race at the 1988 Seoul summer Olmpics. That is just smoking fast, and Taylor did it after getting a poor start.

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I wonder if the kid plays football?

That's the reported time. That is an Olympic Games 100 Meter Final level time, and fifth place in that same HS race was 10.18.

I am skeptical as to the validity of the reported time.

 

[Golson5]

This is an old thread, but there was some back and forth here on track and field, so I thought I would post about an amazing race that just took place down in Texas. At the 2025 state 6A track and field championship, a kid by the name of Tate Taylor ran a 9.92 100M. That just blows my mind! Think about that for a minute: a high school kid equaled the time ran by Carl Lewis when Lewis won the gold medal in the 100m race at the 1988 Seoul summer Olmpics. That is just smoking fast, and Taylor did it after getting a poor start.

View embedded media

I wonder if the kid plays football?

Very impressive

 

[Drinking The Green Koolaid]

That's the reported time. That is an Olympic Games 100 Meter Final level time, and fifth place in that same HS race was 10.18.

I am skeptical as to the validity of the reported time.

Nothing I have read suggests it was not a legitimate and legal time.

A few days before the 100m final he won the 200m with a time of 20.14, the fourth fastest time ever run by someone under the age of 18. Taylor is just legitimately fast.

Tate Taylor becomes fastest high school 100m sprinter in history

Tate Taylor ran 9.92 seconds, becoming the youngest man to break 10 seconds in the 100m.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[sjb75]

Nothing I have read suggests it was not a legitimate and legal time.

A few days before the 100m final he won the 200m with a time of 20.14, the fourth fastest time ever run by someone under the age of 18. Taylor is just legitimately fast.

Tate Taylor becomes fastest high school 100m sprinter in history

Tate Taylor ran 9.92 seconds, becoming the youngest man to break 10 seconds in the 100m.

www.nbcsports.com

Texas HS's can report whatever they choose to report.

 

[Drinking The Green Koolaid]

Texas HS's can report whatever they choose to report.

Yeah, right, it's a vast conspiracy by Texas high schools to report phony times. That's a ridiculous take.

You have watched too many Oliver Stone movies.

 

[NDblitz]

That's the reported time. That is an Olympic Games 100 Meter Final level time, and fifth place in that same HS race was 10.18.

I am skeptical as to the validity of the reported time.

Nobody cares that you are skeptical. IT was good enough for him to be listed as the NU20R record holder. That's the only group whose opinion on the matter counts.

 

[echowaker]

Yeah, right, it's a vast conspiracy by Texas high schools to report phony times. That's a ridiculous take.

You have watched too many Oliver Stone movies.

Consider the source. He doesn't believe anything except that Lincoln Riley is better than sliced bread.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

Those are some REALLY FINE TIMES. Those quarter splits are EXTREMELY GOOD. But I'm surprised you broke 50 in the quarter but didn't break 11 in the 100. You must have been one of those runners who gets faster the farther he runs. I was just the opposite.

Look at this run by Kyren Williams. To me he gets faster the farther he goes, and it's basically 100 yards.

Kyren Williams

Me, I would have been flagging after about 60 yds.

I also applaud your VERSATILITY. And at 5'11". As it happens, that's my height as well. It would have been so much nicer to have been SIX-FOOT-EVEN.

You are right on the money. I had some good fast twitch, but not elite/running back fast twitch stuff... not enough to break 11


400s suck man.....they hurt so much lol

Thank you for the kind words.

Whenever I talk to girls I'm not 5ft 11....im 6ft 😁

 

[4-4-3]

You are right on the money. I had some good fast twitch, but not elite/running back fast twitch stuff... not enough to break 11


400s suck man.....they hurt so much lol

Thank you for the kind words.

Whenever I talk to girls I'm not 5ft 11....im 6ft 😁

"Whenever I talk to girls I'm not 5ft 11....im 6ft."

Aren't we all.

Just wear thicked-sole shoes.

 

[mcdermottrules]

Freeman has taken ND from 10-15th (during the majority of the BK era) to 5th-10th over the last couple of years.

There's still a really long way to go to climb from 5th-10th to becoming a tier 1 program that isn't completely out classed vs the very best teams in the country.

Look at how OSU is recruiting (24/7) and producing (F+). THIS IS THE BAR. There are no shortcuts.

If OSU is recruiting 10 top 100 composite players each class, and ND is recruiting 5, there's a major gap there.

If OSU is producing a 2.5 F+ to NDs 1.9 F+ (despite only being a few places behind in the ranking system) there's a lot of ground to make up there as well.

You have to crack open the hood and check the engine (look at how the program is performing based on the peripherals mentioned above) not judge the program based on the superficiality of a couple of high profile playoff games.

Are Indiana, Georgia, and Penn State not elite teams? Additionally, ND played OSU closer than any other playoff teams.

 

[sjb75]

Are Indiana, Georgia, and Penn State not elite teams? Additionally, ND played OSU closer than any other playoff teams.

There’s nothing elite about Indiana. And I could argue Penn State isn’t elite.

Georgia? Yes.

 

[nptb]

This is an old thread, but there was some back and forth here on track and field, so I thought I would post about an amazing race that just took place down in Texas. At the 2025 state 6A track and field championship, a kid by the name of Tate Taylor ran a 9.92 100M. That just blows my mind! Think about that for a minute: a high school kid equaled the time ran by Carl Lewis when Lewis won the gold medal in the 100m race at the 1988 Seoul summer Olympics. That is just smoking fast, and Taylor did it after getting a poor start.

View embedded media

I wonder if the kid plays football?

His start wasn't poor. The kid that was next to him has one of the best starts in high school so his start won't look the best. The think about that race was, that there were two freshman that finished 4th and 5th running 10.16 and 10.17. They are 14 and 15 years old so not reclassed kids.
Those times are legit.

 

[Drinking The Green Koolaid]

His start wasn't poor. The kid that was next to him has one of the best starts in high school so his start won't look the best. The think about that race was, that there were two freshman that finished 4th and 5th running 10.16 and 10.17. They are 14 and 15 years old so not reclassed kids.
Those times are legit.

Wow, didn't know that. Must be something in that Texas water.

I read an article that said Taylor didn't get the best possible start or he might have run 9.8 something. He clearly is an elite sprinter and if he keeps this up will be in the Olympics.

 

[ZibbyQuinn]

There’s nothing elite about Indiana. And I could argue Penn State isn’t elite.

Georgia? Yes.

IU was 2nd in the BIG10, USC 11 😂

 

[BGI User 1596]

IU was 2nd in the BIG10, USC 11 😂

Ouch