What are the odds that price transfers?

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

Im concerned about it. I like to play blackjack at the casino sometimes, and I think I would bet he will transfer. I hope I'm wrong, but Love is already getting heisman hype, he's a household name now basically while definitely not the case with jadarian even though he had a great year and is almost as dangerous.

Coach Freeman must be aware.

I might get alot of backlash on this idea:
Love is our fastest guy. No question.

Do we have speed burner deep threat at receiver? Feel like we haven't since Will Fuller.

Maybe freeman and denbrock can start really cross training Love at WR ( he's closest thing to the Rocket that we have)
They didn't really use Love AGGRESSIVELY at WR last year .

In certain formations , have jadarian at RB with multiple TEs appearing like a run heavy formation ....but have Love do a 10.3 100m Dash straight to the endzone. Let's race.

How are you going to stop our run game now ? I feel like this could help keep jadarian here. He's a NFL guy. If he's not going to get touches I fear he leaves. Hope I'm wrong.

Sorry guys I'm just daydreaming and talking out loud.

The Virginia receiver looks very talented. Greathouse and Fiason are very solid now. But we don't have a Leonard like scrambler next year, teams will try to focus in on our RBs with the QB run game a nonfactor.

this team next season I think can be better than last season, but I seriously wish we have that one dude that puts the fear of God in the opposing teams defensive coordinator at WR.

If the irish had Will Fuller at WR last year , do we beat ohio state? It's debatable !

Also last thing and I'll stop lol

I really really hope we have a speed burner at punt return next year and we actually like try and do damage in punt returns. That was non existent last year.

Pretty sure some posters on here are faster than the white dude we had returning punts . ( forgot his name)

 

[FightingIrish44]

Will Price have graduated after the spring semester? If not, then I very much doubt he transfers. He likely already has an idea of what the room will look like so he’s probably not worried about it. It’s probably better to save the mileage on the body anyway. If he has his degree after spring, then perhaps he would transfer.

Max Hurleman was the punt returner to whom you referred. I think he was a good football player. He might have bobbled one punt that resulted in a turnover (or it may have been someone else) but other than that, he was good. It’s not always the best athlete that is the best choice for a position and he was quite good at breaking tackles in his own right. I’m confident that Freeman and staff will continue to be successful on special teams.

There is no Leonard to help next year, but the offensive line should be better next year which should result in a better passing game and the QB not being needed as much in the run game.

 

[savvyandsassier]

Um, I guess he could. But given our situation on the depth chart, I think he would have already decided by now, unless someone makes him an offer he can't refuse, a 'godfather' offer, to use the NIL slang. He knows where he stands, he's 1B, to Love's RB1A. So I don't think we have to worry about that.

Hopefully would ND match any offer, or at least try to. Because it is possible to imagine Price and certainly Love being sought after.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

Um, I guess he could. But given our situation on the depth chart, I think he would have already decided by now, unless someone makes him an offer he can't refuse, a 'godfather' offer, to use the NIL slang. He knows where he stands, he's 1B, to Love's RB1A. So I don't think we have to worry about that.

Hopefully would ND match any offer, or at least try to. Because it is possible to imagine Price and certainly Love being sought after.

Right, i was thinking the same thing. I heard he is also getting some very good NIL deals which helps big time too.

We had a pretty solid RB forgot his name that was a 1B guy that transferred to LSU. That's why I'm a little concerned, it's kinda a similar situation...

Let's just hope some SEC team doesn't give Price a call and say " we want you to be the main weapon in our offense and we will give you a couple million bucks..."

But who knows, Price appears to have a great head on his shoulders. Not once do you ever see him out of character. That massive NIL paycheck might not appeal to him. A ND degree .....culture....faith..family..that's what truly matters.

 

[NDblitz]

Didn’t he just get some big NIL deal?

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

Will Price have graduated after the spring semester? If not, then I very much doubt he transfers. He likely already has an idea of what the room will look like so he’s probably not worried about it. It’s probably better to save the mileage on the body anyway. If he has his degree after spring, then perhaps he would transfer.

Max Hurleman was the punt returner to whom you referred. I think he was a good football player. He might have bobbled one punt that resulted in a turnover (or it may have been someone else) but other than that, he was good. It’s not always the best athlete that is the best choice for a position and he was quite good at breaking tackles in his own right. I’m confident that Freeman and staff will continue to be successful on special teams.

There is no Leonard to help next year, but the offensive line should be better next year which should result in a better passing game and the QB not being needed as much in the run game.

Thank you for reminding me his name.

Hes reliable at fair catching the ball and going 5-10 yards, sure. Only fumbled once.

However....

A punt return for a touchdown would come in handy versus a say.....Ohio State wouldn't you agree?

It sure came in handy when we were at the big house that one time versus a top ranked wolverine team. Came in handy twice actually....

When teams like ohio state have Jeremiah Smith
Or Bama has a devante Smith....

I just feel we need to go all out and do everything we possibly can to beat them.

I bet we have a speed burner returning punts next year. No more Max.

I mean , not trying to sound mean but , let's be real. Would max return punts for...Texas? OSU? Bama? Absolutely not right? They putting a weapon returning punts.

 

[chaseball]

If the irish had Will Fuller at WR last year , do we beat ohio state? It's debatable !

I know you made tons of different points but wanted to respond to this one specifically.

My guess is (without doing the actual math/comparison) that OSU has at least 20 more players rated in the composite top 100 on their 85-man roster compared to that of NDs.

Would ONE Will Fuller bridge this gap?

Of course not.

These rosters aren't close.

 

[savvyandsassier]

Right, i was thinking the same thing. I heard he is also getting some very good NIL deals which helps big time too.

We had a pretty solid RB forgot his name that was a 1B guy that transferred to LSU. That's why I'm a little concerned, it's kinda a similar situation...

Let's just hope some SEC team doesn't give Price a call and say " we want you to be the main weapon in our offense and we will give you a couple million bucks..."

But who knows, Price appears to have a great head on his shoulders. Not once do you ever see him out of character. That massive NIL paycheck might not appeal to him. A ND degree .....culture....faith..family..that's what truly matters.

Yeah, Logan Diggs. And he did great for LSU, right away he was their best RB. But in the bowl game I think he blew out his knee. And then Ole Miss signed him away, presumably for something, given how much they spend and avail of themselves of the portal. And I don't believe he played this past season. Hopefully we'll see him back on the scene and he'll be a key RB for Lane Kiffin this coming season.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

I know you made tons of different points but wanted to respond to this one specifically.

My guess is (without doing the actual math/comparison) that OSU has at least 20 more players rated in the composite top 100 on their 85-man roster compared to that of NDs.

Would ONE Will Fuller bridge this gap?

Of course not.

Well hold up brother.

Yes they have a big talent advantage .

They also have a big talent advantage always versus michigan.

I understand what you are saying, but we were down 8 with a few minutes left and had those jerks on 3rd down. We stop them there chase, we get the ball back with a chance to tie despite the massive talent advantage you speak.

1 80 yard bomb to a rocket Ismail, a 5 star guy with 4.3 speed and it's a different game man. When if this 4.3 guy is also returning punts? Kickoff?

Heck, simply having this 4.3 5 star stud on the field changes the game chase. How's ohio going to stop Leonard and Love now that we have this guy out wide. Now ohio state knows how WE feel every time we face them.

We have to change how we play defense versus the buckeyes. Did you see much cover zero / cover 1 man to man like we did all year vs OSU? Absolutely not.

We probably will never be able to get 10 5 stars in a class that you desire, but maybe we don't need to. Maybe we just need to turn our biggest weakness offensively ( over the top speed out wide ) to a annual strength. With our yearly olines...defense....improved QB recruiting.... I firmly believe that can give us the last push we need.

 

[chaseball]

Right, i was thinking the same thing. I heard he is also getting some very good NIL deals which helps big time too.

We had a pretty solid RB forgot his name that was a 1B guy that transferred to LSU. That's why I'm a little concerned, it's kinda a similar situation...

Let's just hope some SEC team doesn't give Price a call and say " we want you to be the main weapon in our offense and we will give you a couple million bucks..."

But who knows, Price appears to have a great head on his shoulders. Not once do you ever see him out of character. That massive NIL paycheck might not appeal to him. A ND degree .....culture....faith..family..that's what truly matters.

Jadarian Price is not going to be the main weapon on any offense in the SEC.

He's a starting caliber player in the P4 who will take advantage of having a great offensive line. He's an above average RB2 and a nice weapon to have on the roster though. Against good to great teams, he's below average.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

Jadarian Price is not going to be the main weapon on any offense in the SEC.

He's a starting caliber player in the P4 who will take advantage of having a great offensive line. He's an above average RB2 and a nice weapon to have on the roster though. Against good to great teams, he's below average.

Jeeze, not even Vandy!? Mississippi State?!

 

[FightingIrish44]

Thank you for reminding me his name.

Hes reliable at fair catching the ball and going 5-10 yards, sure. Only fumbled once.

However....

A punt return for a touchdown would come in handy versus a say.....Ohio State wouldn't you agree?

It sure came in handy when we were at the big house that one time versus a top ranked wolverine team. Came in handy twice actually....

When teams like ohio state have Jeremiah Smith
Or Bama has a devante Smith....

I just feel we need to go all out and do everything we possibly can to beat them.

I bet we have a speed burner returning punts next year. No more Max.

I mean , not trying to sound mean but , let's be real. Would max return punts for...Texas? OSU? Bama? Absolutely not right? They putting a weapon returning punts.

I’d say the primary goal of the punt returner is to secure possession for the offense. Some players are less reliable when it comes to fielding punts. Greathouse returned some punts as a freshman if I’m not mistaken and possibly as a sophomore, so the coaches obviously saw the two and decided that Hurleman was a better fit. Price is a good athlete and yet I don’t believe he has ever returned punts at ND; just kickoffs. It’s not just about athleticism. Kyren Williams is far from an athletic specimen in terms of measurables yet he was good enough to be an NFL All-Pro.

A lot of punt returning has to do with the punt itself as well as the blocking. I think Hurleman did a nice job and even broke a decent amount of tackles despite lacking bonafide athleticism.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

I’d say the primary goal of the punt returner is to secure possession for the offense. Some players are less reliable when it comes to fielding punts. Greathouse returned some punts as a freshman if I’m not mistaken and possibly as a sophomore, so the coaches obviously saw the two and decided that Hurleman was a better fit. Price is a good athlete and yet I don’t believe he has ever returned punts at ND; just kickoffs. It’s not just about athleticism. Kyren Williams is far from an athletic specimen in terms of measurables yet he was good enough to be an NFL All-Pro.

A lot of punt returning has to do with the punt itself as well as the blocking. I think Hurleman did a nice job and even broke a decent amount of tackles despite lacking bonafide athleticism.

I can't argue with anything that you said there. Agreed. Securing by far most important.

Just feel like sometimes, a big uppercut to the jaw to Bama or OSU would be enough to finally take them down. Whether chase agrees or not, we are close.

When Harrison ran back that kick off vs Georgia, that shook Georgia big time. The threat of the SEC champ losing to the hated, annually overrated Notre Dame was staring right in there face after that. The game changed, they are down multiple possessions and can't play there game. Clock is against them as a primary running team.

Would be nice to add a dangerous element to both punt return and kick off is all I'm saying. I think freeman and denbrock definitely had your mindset last season for punt return.

Personally I hope that mindset changes drastically. Just don't fumble!

 

[Golson5]

Jadarian Price is not going to be the main weapon on any offense in the SEC.

He's a starting caliber player in the P4 who will take advantage of having a great offensive line. He's an above average RB2 and a nice weapon to have on the roster though. Against good to great teams, he's below average.

Bull shit. He'd be the starter on most sec teams

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

Bull shit. He'd be the starter on most sec teams

He's tough. Definitely underrated.

Ever seen him in person? Man....

I went to the spring game when he was a freshman. He was hands down the most jacked guy on the team. Probably still is.
Slightly slower than love yes, but he can do some things better than love i think.

He's really good at cutting to the outside left after starting the play appearing to be going up the middle. Lots of long long runs doing that.

Looking forward to seeing what K young is all about here hopefully soon.

 

[FightingIrish44]

I can't argue with anything that you said there. Agreed. Securing by far most important.

Just feel like sometimes, a big uppercut to the jaw to Bama or OSU would be enough to finally take them down. Whether chase agrees or not, we are close.

When Harrison ran back that kick off vs Georgia, that shook Georgia big time. The threat of the SEC champ losing to the hated, annually overrated Notre Dame was staring right in there face after that. The game changed, they are down multiple possessions and can't play there game. Clock is against them as a primary running team.

Would be nice to add a dangerous element to both punt return and kick off is all I'm saying. I think freeman and denbrock definitely had your mindset last season for punt return.

Personally I hope that mindset changes drastically. Just don't fumble!

Was Harrison successful on that kick return because of his supreme athleticism, or was it because of his skills as a returner as well as the way the play unfolded? He was billed as a sub 4.4 guy but I don’t buy that. I’d say he runs in the 4.5’s.

I don’t mean to imply that the coaches just had a mindset of “just catch the punt” like we saw during the Kelly era. I think Hurleman provided some legitimate playmaking ability as well as confidence in his ability to field punts. I think it was during the Louisville game where he broke like 4-5 tackles on a single return. There was another punt I believe in the playoffs where he had to aggressively attack the ball in order to field it and picked up 7 yards. If the ball hits the ground, maybe it rolls for 10-20 yards resulting in a loss of 17-27 yards of field position. He wasn’t by any means perfect either.

What I’m trying to say is that a superior athlete doesn’t mean a better punt returner. Good convo.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

Was Harrison successful on that kick return because of his supreme athleticism, or was it because of his skills as a returner as well as the way the play unfolded? He was billed as a sub 4.4 guy but I don’t buy that. I’d say he runs in the 4.5’s.

I don’t mean to imply that the coaches just had a mindset of “just catch the punt” like we saw during the Kelly era. I think Hurleman provided some legitimate playmaking ability as well as confidence in his ability to field punts. I think it was during the Louisville game where he broke like 4-5 tackles on a single return. There was another punt I believe in the playoffs where he had to aggressively attack the ball in order to field it and picked up 7 yards. If the ball hits the ground, maybe it rolls for 10-20 yards resulting in a loss of 17-27 yards of field position. He wasn’t by any means perfect either.

What I’m trying to say is that a superior athlete doesn’t mean a better punt returner. Good convo.

I DEFINITELY don't buy it either. Agreed probably 4.5. Understood.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

I DEFINITELY don't buy it either. Agreed probably 4.5. Understood.

BTW. Shame on me for giving the white guy punt returner heat.

There's a really good boxer who returned some punts awhile ago named zibby....

Shame on me. Lol

 

[4-4-3]

Um, I guess he could. But given our situation on the depth chart, I think he would have already decided by now, unless someone makes him an offer he can't refuse, a 'godfather' offer, to use the NIL slang. He knows where he stands, he's 1B, to Love's RB1A. So I don't think we have to worry about that.

Hopefully would ND match any offer, or at least try to. Because it is possible to imagine Price and certainly Love being sought after.

Does any of this depend on the condition of LOVE'S KNEE?

What sort of injury was it? A sprain? A ligament tear that didn't require surgery? MCL? ACL? Loose cartilage? Is it likely to recur or slow him if he takes some additional hits there? Were they hoping what he had wouldn't require surgery? And if so, has the issue been resolved?

I think this could CONCEIVABLY be a factor in what Price does. If Love is IFFY, PRICE IS IT.

Any news from anyone on any of this?

I ask as I've never seen the EXTENT of Love's injury discussed ANYWHERE.

 

[Golson5]

Does any of this depend on the condition of LOVE'S KNEE?

What sort of injury was it? A sprain? A ligament tear that didn't require surgery? MCL? ACL? Loose cartilage? Is it likely to recur or slow him if he takes some additional hits there? Were they hoping what he had wouldn't require surgery? And if so, has the issue been resolved?

I think this could CONCEIVABLY be a factor in what Price does. If Love is IFFY, PRICE IS IT.

Any news from anyone on any of this?

I ask as I've never seen the EXTENT of Love's injury discussed ANYWHERE.

Love is fine. No surgery. No issues

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

Does any of this depend on the condition of LOVE'S KNEE?

What sort of injury was it? A sprain? A ligament tear that didn't require surgery? MCL? ACL? Loose cartilage? Is it likely to recur or slow him if he takes some additional hits there? Were they hoping what he had wouldn't require surgery? And if so, has the issue been resolved?

I think this could CONCEIVABLY be a factor in what Price does. If Love is IFFY, PRICE IS IT.

Any news from anyone on any of this?

I ask as I've never seen the EXTENT of Love's injury discussed ANYWHERE.

I haven't heard or saw anything restricting Love. Love will be in the air as expected hurdling Miami defenders in the opener unless something bad happens.

Now that you make the point, Love is a violent runner who suffered a pretty serious knee issue, who is to say he doesn't injure it again? Love is kinda injury prone.

Also I know it sounds silly but when if price just flat out loves it here? I think he does. He'd be gone already like savy said.

 

[1Redrum]

I predict he stays....he will be drafted, he will make bank in the NFL like Kyren Williams if given the opportunity. Not going to be a first or second rounder so get the education, keep the miles low on the body and make the most of your pro career with your ND degree and yes hopefully some decent NIL money this year.

 

[NWfor3]

IF Price stays, what’s the breakdown (%) of carries between…
Love
Price
Williams
Young
Payne

 

[4-4-3]

I haven't heard or saw anything restricting Love. Love will be in the air as expected hurdling Miami defenders in the opener unless something bad happens.

Now that you make the point, Love is a violent runner who suffered a pretty serious knee issue, who is to say he doesn't injure it again? Love is kinda injury prone.

Also I know it sounds silly but when if price just flat out loves it here? I think he does. He'd be gone already like savy said.

I'm not one to try to get into the head of ANY YOUNG PERSON.

Whatever he does, I hope it's well considered and makes sense for him. But he seems like he's pretty level-headed.

 

[Kelso86]

Im concerned about it. I like to play blackjack at the casino sometimes, and I think I would bet he will transfer. I hope I'm wrong, but Love is already getting heisman hype, he's a household name now basically while definitely not the case with jadarian even though he had a great year and is almost as dangerous.

Coach Freeman must be aware.

I might get alot of backlash on this idea:
Love is our fastest guy. No question.

Do we have speed burner deep threat at receiver? Feel like we haven't since Will Fuller.

Maybe freeman and denbrock can start really cross training Love at WR ( he's closest thing to the Rocket that we have)
They didn't really use Love AGGRESSIVELY at WR last year .

In certain formations , have jadarian at RB with multiple TEs appearing like a run heavy formation ....but have Love do a 10.3 100m Dash straight to the endzone. Let's race.

How are you going to stop our run game now ? I feel like this could help keep jadarian here. He's a NFL guy. If he's not going to get touches I fear he leaves. Hope I'm wrong.

Sorry guys I'm just daydreaming and talking out loud.

The Virginia receiver looks very talented. Greathouse and Fiason are very solid now. But we don't have a Leonard like scrambler next year, teams will try to focus in on our RBs with the QB run game a nonfactor.

this team next season I think can be better than last season, but I seriously wish we have that one dude that puts the fear of God in the opposing teams defensive coordinator at WR.

If the irish had Will Fuller at WR last year , do we beat ohio state? It's debatable !

Also last thing and I'll stop lol

I really really hope we have a speed burner at punt return next year and we actually like try and do damage in punt returns. That was non existent last year.

Pretty sure some posters on here are faster than the white dude we had returning punts . ( forgot his name)

"Also last thing and I'll stop lol"

Should have stopped at the beginning! Talk about being a negative, worrisome nelly -- The big hope is guys who need it get a lot of reps in the spring, the workhorses (Price, Love, Greathouse to name a few -- are limited in the spring to allow their bodies to heal properly and be ready for the fall), and the injured who will not compete in the spring, will be able to come back in the fall and be 100% ready.

"I really really hope we have a speed burner at punt return next year and we actually like try and do damage in punt returns. That was non existent last year."

Speed means nothing when the defenders are all over you when you catch the punt.

 

[NDSMC78]

"Also last thing and I'll stop lol"

Should have stopped at the beginning! Talk about being a negative, worrisome nelly -- The big hope is guys who need it get a lot of reps in the spring, the workhorses (Price, Love, Greathouse to name a few -- are limited in the spring to allow their bodies to heal properly and be ready for the fall), and the injured who will not compete in the spring, will be able to come back in the fall and be 100% ready.

"I really really hope we have a speed burner at punt return next year and we actually like try and do damage in punt returns. That was non existent last year."

Speed means nothing when the defenders are all over you when you catch the punt.

This. Exactly this.

 

[Patrish]

Im concerned about it. I like to play blackjack at the casino sometimes, and I think I would bet he will transfer. I hope I'm wrong, but Love is already getting heisman hype, he's a household name now basically while definitely not the case with jadarian even though he had a great year and is almost as dangerous.

Coach Freeman must be aware.

I might get alot of backlash on this idea:
Love is our fastest guy. No question.

Do we have speed burner deep threat at receiver? Feel like we haven't since Will Fuller.

Maybe freeman and denbrock can start really cross training Love at WR ( he's closest thing to the Rocket that we have)
They didn't really use Love AGGRESSIVELY at WR last year .

In certain formations , have jadarian at RB with multiple TEs appearing like a run heavy formation ....but have Love do a 10.3 100m Dash straight to the endzone. Let's race.

How are you going to stop our run game now ? I feel like this could help keep jadarian here. He's a NFL guy. If he's not going to get touches I fear he leaves. Hope I'm wrong.

Sorry guys I'm just daydreaming and talking out loud.

The Virginia receiver looks very talented. Greathouse and Fiason are very solid now. But we don't have a Leonard like scrambler next year, teams will try to focus in on our RBs with the QB run game a nonfactor.

this team next season I think can be better than last season, but I seriously wish we have that one dude that puts the fear of God in the opposing teams defensive coordinator at WR.

If the irish had Will Fuller at WR last year , do we beat ohio state? It's debatable !

Also last thing and I'll stop lol

I really really hope we have a speed burner at punt return next year and we actually like try and do damage in punt returns. That was non existent last year.

Pretty sure some posters on here are faster than the white dude we had returning punts . ( forgot his name)

What odds are you giving ?

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

What odds are you giving ?

35%

I agree with others that if he was going to leave, he would have left by now.

Directly after the season ended I would have told you 60%.

This might be a unpopular opinion but I feel there is a drop off between Price and Williams.

Kedron Young I'm not sure.

 

[Golson5]

35%

I agree with others that if he was going to leave, he would have left by now.

Directly after the season ended I would have told you 60%.

This might be a unpopular opinion but I feel there is a drop off between Price and Williams.

Kedron Young I'm not sure.

35 is high

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

35 is high

Yes, I'm probably thinking worst case scenario right now.

 

[Tru2Irish]

Will Price have graduated after the spring semester? If not, then I very much doubt he transfers. He likely already has an idea of what the room will look like so he’s probably not worried about it. It’s probably better to save the mileage on the body anyway. If he has his degree after spring, then perhaps he would transfer.

Max Hurleman was the punt returner to whom you referred. I think he was a good football player. He might have bobbled one punt that resulted in a turnover (or it may have been someone else) but other than that, he was good. It’s not always the best athlete that is the best choice for a position and he was quite good at breaking tackles in his own right. I’m confident that Freeman and staff will continue to be successful on special teams.

There is no Leonard to help next year, but the offensive line should be better next year which should result in a better passing game and the QB not being needed as much in the run game.

Punters are getting better hang time so defenders can get to punt returner faster. Punters work on this or placement kicking more than they used to.

 

[echowaker]

35%

I agree with others that if he was going to leave, he would have left by now.

Directly after the season ended I would have told you 60%.

This might be a unpopular opinion but I feel there is a drop off between Price and Williams.

Kedron Young I'm not sure.

I think Williams is terrific. There's a reason he was the primary 3rd down back which is extraordinary from a true Freshman. Much like the offensive line room, an embarrassment of riches.

 

[chaseball]

35%

I agree with others that if he was going to leave, he would have left by now.

Directly after the season ended I would have told you 60%.

This might be a unpopular opinion but I feel there is a drop off between Price and Williams.

Kedron Young I'm not sure.

I think Ayenas Williams produced way beyond expected as a freshman which is a great sign for future upside/potential. I think he was rated in the 200-300s overall in his class And after producing really good RB3 numbers last year as a true frosh it's clear he may have been undervalued by the recruiting services. I don't think he has Jeremiyah Love upside but he could be a better version of Cam McDaniel over the course of his career (The kind of player that will bring something to the table even when your roster is completely healthy by being a change of pace guy or a third down guy and then offer really good insurance if one of the guys higher on the depth chart gets injured). He also seems like a leader / locker room guy who brings a lot of great intangibles to the table.

 

[BGI User 756]

I know you made tons of different points but wanted to respond to this one specifically.

My guess is (without doing the actual math/comparison) that OSU has at least 20 more players rated in the composite top 100 on their 85-man roster compared to that of NDs.

Would ONE Will Fuller bridge this gap?

Of course not.

These rosters aren't close.

Chase, why are you conversing with yourself?

 

[chaseball]

I think Ayenas Williams produced way beyond expected as a freshman which is a great sign for future upside/potential. I think he was rated in the 200-300s overall in his class And after producing really good RB3 numbers last year as a true frosh it's clear he may have been undervalued by the recruiting services. I don't think he has Jeremiyah Love upside but he could be a better version of Cam McDaniel over the course of his career (The kind of player that will bring something to the table even when your roster is completely healthy by being a change of pace guy or a third down guy and then offer really good insurance if one of the guys higher on the depth chart gets injured). He also seems like a leader / locker room guy who brings a lot of great intangibles to the table.

To add to this point:

NDs offensive line is operating at such a high level for such a long time (since start of BK era), it feels like ND can bring anybody in at RB and still get really good reps/production.

 

[iLOVEtohurdle41]

To add to this point:

NDs offensive line is operating at such a high level for such a long time (since start of BK era), it feels like ND can bring anybody in at RB and still get really good reps/production.

This is why I'm so excited about this upcoming season. Because we have weapons out wide. We have a QB that can throw. And we have arguable the most lethal runningback room in college football.

And none of them are 5 stars.

 

[chaseball]

This is why I'm so excited about this upcoming season. Because we have weapons out wide. We have a QB that can throw. And we have arguable the most lethal runningback room in college football.

And none of them are 5 stars.

OL, LB, and CB are at the level required to win a national title.

QB, WR, TE, EDGE, DT and even Safety (post Xavier Watts era) still have a long way to go.

There's a big drop off in individual ability after Jerimiyah Love at RB as well IMO. And Love wore down as the season went on last year which is why you need multiple players at the position at his level to be a national championship quality RB room (especially in a program that relies as much on playmaking at RB as ND does). Moreover, I think it's the prowess of the o-line that is making the RB room look better than it actually is.

ND has the kind of roster and depth to beat most teams on their schedule, but in college football, you need star players all over the field playing to their full potential to go 4-0 in the playoff against the best teams in the best conferences.

 

[Golson5]

OL, LB, and CB are at the level required to win a national title.

QB, WR, TE, EDGE, DT and even Safety (post Xavier Watts era) still have a long way to go.

There's a big drop off in individual ability after Jerimiyah Love at RB as well IMO. And Love wore down as the season went on last year which is why you need multiple players at the position at his level to be a national championship quality RB room (especially in a program that relies as much on playmaking at RB as ND does). Moreover, I think it's the prowess of the o-line that is making the RB room look better than it actually is.

ND has the kind of roster and depth to beat most teams on their schedule, but in college football, you need star players all over the field playing to their full potential to go 4-0 in the playoff against the best teams in the best conferences.

We have the best RB room in the country. Loaded top to bottom

Our RB room is the best position on the team. No weak links. No misses. Best player in the country at his position and a 2nd guy who starts at 98% of the other schools

RB, LB, OL and Cb are all elite rooms compared to the rest of the country

Edge and Safety are very good. Could be elite this year

TE, DT and WR are not there

QB is unknown

 

[burmafrd1943]

chase his ball always worth a laugh

 

[nptb]

We have the best RB room in the country. Loaded top to bottom

Our RB room is the best position on the team. No weak links. No misses. Best player in the country at his position and a 2nd guy who starts at 98% of the other schools

RB, LB, OL and Cb are all elite rooms compared to the rest of the country

Edge and Safety are very good. Could be elite this year

TE, DT and WR are not there

QB is unknown

i feel like the TE room is very good as well. Everything always comes down to health. I feel like the Edge could be elite if there are no major injuries next season.