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Friendly reminder: 12th ranked class with no 5 stars yet again in 2025 - Where's the evidence of a new level of performance going forward?

This is the explanation that he just does not seem to understand; possibly does not want to try to understand. The constant posts repeatedly indicate no understanding of the true mission of the university. No real care for the institution, just one aspect visible to hom.
This is why I have stopped responding to his drivel. He's either mentally challenged, or ignorant of the facts.

The football factories also have a higher acceptance rate. Ohio State has a 52.7% acceptance rate, and 88% of their full-time students take 6 years to graduate.

Notre Dame has a 16.5% acceptance rate and 90% of their full time students graduate in 4 years.
 
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If it was only in 2024 this one year it would be different but this has been going on dating back to the beginning of the turn of the century. ND hasn't been competitive with the modern powers in the sport at the top of the mountain in aggregate over decades of time period.
So we are going back to 2000?

Bama with DuBose and Franchione and Shula? And UGA was 17 seasons away from losing less than 3 games in consecutive years?

Lol, you try too hard and it’s enjoyable to continually expose you
 
This is why I have stopped responding to his drivel. He's either mentally challenged, or ignorant of the facts.

The football factories also have a higher acceptance rate. Ohio State has a 52.7% acceptance rate, and 88% of their full-time students take 6 years to graduate.

Notre Dame has a 16.5% acceptance rate and 90% of their full time students graduate in 4 years.
But...but...but....I read somewhere on here that the academic focus/differences are just an excuse to explain why ND won't sign all the 5-star Rivals players...who should I believe? :rolleyes:

(for patirish: I'm being sarcastic)
 
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I have attached the mission statement of the University for you to peruse...you will notice that there is NO reference to funding a professional football franchise as being a priority for the University, nor is it referred to as a means of carrying out the University's Catholic mission.

I think we have isolated your problem...you simply misunderstand the reason that the UNIVERSITY of Notre Dame exists...now you know...so you can stop with the foolish commentary that suggests that the University follow the Los Angeles Dodgers model of professional franchise building...

Oh, and an interesting tidbit from my time on campus (MANY, MANY moons ago)...a friend that worked at the OLD tiny bookstore told me that they made as much or more money selling merch on GRADUATION weekends as football weekends...

The Mission Statement of the UNIVERSITY of Notre Dame
Hum you believe marketing the ND brand to attract qualified athletes is a bad idea?
 
This is the explanation that he just does not seem to understand; possibly does not want to try to understand. The constant posts repeatedly indicate no understanding of the true mission of the university. No real care for the institution, just one aspect visible to hom.
While I agree in part, I ultimately think it’s much simpler than that: he’s just starved for attention.
 
Hum you believe marketing the ND brand to attract qualified athletes is a bad idea?
What brand are you referring to? I think marketing the school in its totality is the best recruiting approach...great athletics, great academics, great alumni connections (4 for 40)...

My point about the mission was directed at the poster that seems to think that all Notre Dame has to do is throw money around like tOSU...but it will not do that because it does not function as a semi-pro sports franchise.
 
A lot of optimism "going forward" from the fan base but the peripherals are the same this year & next year as they've been for the last 15 years where "good, but not good enough" has been the common theme in terms of NDs results throughout.

I see a lot of people excited about next year but what changes? Same level of talent being recruited ... no difference ... where is the gap being bridged? what evidence/peripherals can we point to that there's a whole other level of performance good enough to beat tier 1 teams going forward? We're a blue blood without a conference, its national title or bust. What is the point of having the upside to maybe be the 5th best team in the country twice a decade but never enough upside to be the #1 team in the country and make a legit national title run and win it all ?
The evidence is self evident

Notre Dame played in the finals of the college football championship, beating three (3) top 10 teams, despite having an unprecedented number of key injuries
 
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I think the old stereotype that five-star kids or top 100 prospects coming out of high school are all retarded orangutans looking for a cash bag above all else needs to die among Notre Dame's fan base. This isn't directed at you specifically btw but speaking to a common theme on the issue of five Star talent and recruiting among the Notre Dame fan base

Most of the best prospects coming out of high school these days our kids who come from middle class families that can afford to travel to all the camps around country and afford private coaching and private tutors at an early age all the way through high school.

Notre Dame should be cleaning up with these kids on the recruiting trail since ND has more to offer than anybody else in the country: resources popularity TV ratings tier 1 academics biggest fan base in the country and on and on and on

Nobody else offers this combination in greater spades than Notre Dame
As somebody who has become something of an LSU fan, after being a cloistered ND fan all these years, I can tell you that the old stereotypes still definitely hold true. And ND has to be selective about who they take into their program. For all the same reasons. And nothing has significantly changed in that regard. And top prospects don't mainly come from middle-class families and thus are mainly all suitable enough ND material. I would imagine that's simply not true.
 
We have a brand new AD!!! We will see what changes he makes. I doubt that he will advertise how much NIL $ is going to be spent on football, basketball, or any of the other sports. We need patience to see what he does.
 
We have a brand new AD!!! We will see what changes he makes. I doubt that he will advertise how much NIL $ is going to be spent on football, basketball, or any of the other sports. We need patience to see what he does.
He's been employed for a year and there's definitely been some changes for the better, but still waiting for those improvements to make there way to the talent acquisition side of the organization.

We can't beat teams on the football field that are annihilating us on the recruiting trail which makes it nearly impossible to win a national title without major improvement to this part of the organization.
 
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its been a long season any team in the playoff is various levels of banged up less than 100% players up and down their 2 deep with starters missing.
This is garbage, I watched Ryan Day tell Kirk Herbstriet that OSU was the healthiest they’ve been all season when they were getting ready to play Oregon in the 2nd round.

Of the final four teams, none were decimated like ND by injuries, not even close.

I’ve tried to be nice to you man, even defended you being able to have whatever opinion you want without being attacked mercilessly, but it’s completely clear that you aren’t a ND fan. There is no way you can see what they did and overcame this season and trash every single thing they do.

🤡 🌎
 
I can agree and also disagree with this. ND will NEVER load up on five star talent, like OSU had this year. Its never going to happen. I hate to say it this way, but a lot of these 5 star athletes don't want to take the class load involved at ND just to play football for a couple years before bolting for the NFL. IF we can carry 5 or 6 five stars each year, I think that is outstanding and about as good as we'll get.

That said, the evidence of ND's needle moving up is simple. We WON 3 playoff games, two of which were against perennial SEC and Big10 powers. We also hung with an Ohio State juggernaut that lets be completely honest here, no one was going to beat in the post season. A few breaks in that game and it would have been a nail biter. We also saw a team that flat out played their butts off and willed themselves to wins. This year, this team had that old "holtz era" feel to it, where you just always had the feeling a big play was about to happen and we'd pull out the W. That Luck of the Irish that used to be common place with the old Holtz teams.

We did all while being decimated with injuries in the playoffs. That to me spoke volumes for our depth this year and hopefully moving forward. We never had the luxury of plugging someone in without significant drop off like we had this year. MF is also still learning a bit on the job at times but man... its good to be Irish right now IMO.
 
You have no life, no friends, no one that loves you. You were born a loser, you live your life as a loser and you will die a loser.
Wow that’s in the true spirit of Notre Dame. What a wonderful human being you are. Prayers to your soul
 
Good class. Not great. Would like to see us get back to having classes like the first 2. Those were special and impactful on this season.

Rumor is 2026 could be elite.
 
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