How are you ranked ahead of Northwestern?

[shakes3858]

We beat you last year.
We beat Stanford this year and completely dominated them
Your best wins are Navy, USC, and Temple.
We play in the best conference in the country.
You lose to Stanford.
We have the same record.

Isn't the team that beat Stanford better than the team that lost to Stanford?

 

[BGI User 1596]

We beat you last year.
We beat Stanford this year and completely dominated them
Your best wins are Navy, USC, and Temple.
We play in the best conference in the country.
You lose to Stanford.
We have the same record.

Isn't the team that beat Stanford better than the team that lost to Stanford?

Well the Big is maybe as good as the MAC - hope that helps!

 

[NDSMC78]

We beat you last year.
We beat Stanford this year and completely dominated them
Your best wins are Navy, USC, and Temple.
We play in the best conference in the country.
You lose to Stanford.
We have the same record.

Isn't the team that beat Stanford better than the team that lost to Stanford?

Because ND is a better team than Northwestern, d-bag.

 

[shakes3858]

Because ND is a better team than Northwestern, d-bag.

Are there no rules on this board? I know most boards don't allow personal attacks like calling a poster a d-bag.

 

[captstabbin]

It is questions/threads like this that make me wish the world government would just get on with the purge already.

 

[shakes3858]

Well the Big is maybe as good as the MAC - hope that helps!

Since the big ten was something like 10-2 against the MAC this year, I think the Big Ten is better. The Big Ten also has 5 teams in the top 15. That's 1/3 of the top 15 btw.

 

[NDSMC78]

Are there no rules on this board? I know most boards don't allow personal attacks like calling a poster a d-bag.

No. There are no rules on this board.
Like most Northwestern fans, it just irks the crap out of you that ND can be successful in sports and still be a top twenty academic institution. I hope it keeps you awake at night, chump. Now get lost.

 

[shakes3858]

It is questions/threads like this that make me wish the world government would just get on with the purge already.

Did you want to purge everyone that suggested that Notre Dame should be in playoff over Oklahoma because you beat Texas and they lost to Texas? It's literally the same argument.

 

[perseverare]

Well the Big is maybe as good as the MAC - hope that helps!

what is worse then the OP notion is the real possibility that he/she handles sharp objects or drives a car and/or votes!

 

[NDSMC78]

The Big 10 played crappy schedules, by and large.
ND had the # 19 SOS, according to Sagarin.
Michigan's SOS was # 42.
Northwestern's SOS was # 44.
Ohio St's SOS was # 61.
Iowa's SOS was # 62.
You may find that to be worth crowing about. I do not.

http://www.sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

 

[Classic Irish]

Are there no rules on this board? I know most boards don't allow personal attacks like calling a poster a d-bag.

It's not a personal attack. It's a factual statement. Trolling is also not permitted here either, yet your puerile behavior is tolerated. If you don't like the way you're treated here, then go back to the Northwestern board---if they even have one.

I would add that you are also a liar: you said in a post last week that that post would be your last.

 

[shakes3858]

No. There are no rules on this board.
Like most Northwestern fans, it just irks the crap out of you that ND can be successful in sports and still be a top twenty academic institution. I hope it keeps you awake at night, chump. Now get lost.

I realize that since Notre Dame is a non-research university you may not know how to do research, but a quick internet search will provide the rules of the board. I will provide them for you as you were probably too lazy to put in the extra work that it'll take to get into a top 10 university like Northwestern. You're in violation of rules 1 and 3.

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[NDSMC78]

Did you want to purge everyone that suggested that Notre Dame should be in playoff over Oklahoma because you beat Texas and they lost to Texas? It's literally the same argument.

Boo hoo. You mean and nasty Notre Dame fans are making fun of the Big 10.

Get over yourself. Knock yourself out in the Outback Bowl.

 

[NDSMC78]

I realize that since Notre Dame is a non-research university you may not know how to do research, but a quick internet search will provide the rules of the board. I will provide them for you as you were probably too lazy to put in the extra work that it'll take to get into a top 10 university like Northwestern. You're in violation of rules 1 and 3.

Forum Rules

1. No profanity, racist or sexist comments. This includes using abbreviations or changing one letter of a swear word such that the word(s) are still interpreted by most as profane.
2. No pornographic or obscene material of any kind. Any user posting pornographic pictures, or links to such material will be blacklisted. This includes materials within a signature file or avatar.
3. No attacking other posters. If you feel the need to harass another poster, don't do it. What is considered attacking other posters?
   • Bringing up their name in posts that they did not start or were not involved in, just to get a reaction from them.
   • Consistently responding to their posts and responding with no merit other than to belittle them.
   • In short, making a poster a target.
4. Do not post unsubstantiated rumors about players, coaches, etc. If you have a link to a news story, that is one thing. But if you have heard something 'from a friend of a friend,' this is not the website to post innuendo and rumor. Those posts will be removed.
5. No repetitive negative posting. What makes a repetitive post? If you come to the forum and consistently say the exact same thing about the exact same topic day in and day out, that is being repetitive. Be sure to understand that no one is saying that you can not be critical. But this site will not be overrun by the same people coming on the site day after day saying the same negative things.
6. No flaming: If a poster come onto the board with the intent only to flame, and continues to post nothing but flames or engages in no substantive discussion, the poster's posts will be deleted and the poster will be banned at the monitor's discretion.
7. No attacks on players or coaches. Criticism is allowed, and encouraged if the shoe fits. But that does NOT mean you have free range to bash or alienate a player or coach with your comments. If you disagree with how they played or the effort they put forward, please voice your opinion and state why you hold that opinion. If it's something you would not say to their faces, then don't post it.
8. No attacking recruits: Just because a player may choose another school does not give you the right to blast them, in any circumstance. There will be zero tolerance on this issue.
9. No posting of commercial offers, competing websites or spamming of the board will be permitted.: All threads will be deleted at the discretion of the board monitor.
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Like Andrew Jackson told the United States Supreme Court......

 

[shakes3858]

It's not a personal attack. It's a factual statement. Trolling is also not permitted here either, yet your puerile behavior is tolerated. If you don't like the way you're treated here, then go back to the Northwestern board---if they even have one.

I would add that you are also a liar: you said in a post last week that that post would be your last.

That was my last post in that thread. Next time, I'll be more specific.

 

[NDSMC78]

That was my last post in that thread. Next time, I'll be more specific.

How about next time not coming over here to flame, jagoff?

 

[Irish Grandeur]

We beat you last year.
We beat Stanford this year and completely dominated them
Your best wins are Navy, USC, and Temple.
We play in the best conference in the country.
You lose to Stanford.
We have the same record.

Isn't the team that beat Stanford better than the team that lost to Stanford?

Simple...because the CFP committee says so and it's not even close. Go cry somewhere else.

 

[Classic Irish]

That was my last post in that thread. Next time, I'll be more specific.

You're also a hypocrite:

"No flaming: If a poster come onto the board with the intent only to flame, and continues to post nothing but flames or engages in no substantive discussion, the poster's posts will be deleted and the poster will be banned at the monitor's discretion."

 

[NDSMC78]

You're also a hypocrite:

"No flaming: If a poster come onto the board with the intent only to flame, and continues to post nothing but flames or engages in no substantive discussion, the poster's posts will be deleted and the poster will be banned at the monitor's discretion."

This joker only comes over here to flame. He is a known troll. Strange that he was AWOL all season until ND lost last Saturday.

 

[shakes3858]

The Big 10 played crappy schedules, by and large.
ND had the # 19 SOS, according to Sagarin.
Michigan's SOS was # 42.
Northwestern's SOS was # 44.
Ohio St's SOS was # 61.
Iowa's SOS was # 62.
You may find that to be worth crowing about. I do not.

http://www.sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Here's a good post with at least some good content... but the problem is you lost to all the good teams that you played (Clemson and Stanford). You beat some above average teams (Navy, Temple, USC). And then you beat some ACC bottom feeders. Sorry, but NU beat Stanford, ND lost to Stanford. This is the playoff committees rules:

• Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
• Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)

 

[shakes3858]

You're also a hypocrite:

"No flaming: If a poster come onto the board with the intent only to flame, and continues to post nothing but flames or engages in no substantive discussion, the poster's posts will be deleted and the poster will be banned at the monitor's discretion."

I'm not flaming. I'm asking a legitimate question about Notre Dame football. How is it possible that you're ahead of Northwestern when the common opponent test implicates that Northwestern is a better team.

 

[NDSMC78]

Here's a good post with at least some good content... but the problem is you lost to all the good teams that you played (Clemson and Stanford). You beat some above average teams (Navy, Temple, USC). And then you beat some ACC bottom feeders. Sorry, but NU beat Stanford, ND lost to Stanford. This is the playoff committees rules:

• Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
• Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)

Wah! Wah! Wah! Everyone is mean to me. Everyone is trashing the Big 10! Wah! Wah! Wah!

 

[BGI User 1596]

A more curious question is how is Northwestern ranked ahead of Michigan when you couldn't even score a single point on them and we curb stomped them last year 31-0 ?

 

[echowaker]

Here's a good post with at least some good content... but the problem is you lost to all the good teams that you played (Clemson and Stanford). You beat some above average teams (Navy, Temple, USC). And then you beat some ACC bottom feeders. Sorry, but NU beat Stanford, ND lost to Stanford. This is the playoff committees rules:

• Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
• Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)

please. on a neutral field usc would be at least a 7 point favorite over northwestern. your division of the big 10 is awful. iowa gets exposed saturday.

 

[shakes3858]

This joker only comes over here to flame. He is a known troll. Strange that he was AWOL all season until ND lost last Saturday.

Sorry, next time I'll come over here to congratulate you when you beat UMass. Happy Belated Beating of Umass.

 

[Classic Irish]

Here's a good post with at least some good content... but the problem is you lost to all the good teams that you played (Clemson and Stanford). You beat some above average teams (Navy, Temple, USC). And then you beat some ACC bottom feeders. Sorry, but NU beat Stanford, ND lost to Stanford. This is the playoff committees rules:

• Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
• Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)

Do you really need it spelled out for you? Because it's obvious to everyone except maybe Northwestern/Big Ten fans that ND is a better team than Northwestern and that Northwestern's victory against Stanford in the first game of the season was just a fluke. Deal with it, cry baby.

 

[NDSMC78]

I'm not flaming. I'm asking a legitimate question about Notre Dame football. How is it possible that you're ahead of Northwestern when the common opponent test implicates that Northwestern is a better team.

Bullshit. It's an abvious flame by an inveterate flamer. Every poll, including the playoff committee poll, the coaches poll, and the AP poll has ND ahead of Northwestern. Sagarin has ND ahead of Northwestern. No one has Northwestern in front of ND. But you, a professed ND hater, start this thread on this ND board. And you claim not to be flaming.
In addition to being a d-bag, a jagoff, and a hypocrite, you are also a liar.

 

[perseverare]

The logic is the problem, football is a game of matchups.

You cannot just say 'we beat them and they lost to them therefore we are better than them'. It is not that 'simple'.

That is why the committee will always be open to question. Solution? an 8 team tourney!

 

[shakes3858]

A more curious question is how is Northwestern ranked ahead of Michigan when you couldn't even score a single point on them and we curb stomped them last year 31-0 ?

We have a better record and Michigan has more or less fallen apart after the Michigan state debacle. They beat Minnesota by a yard and poor clock management by a 1st game head coach in Tracy Clays and need double overtime to beat Indiana. I'm not sure you can compare Michigan last year to this year. They have a new QB who's pretty good and an actual coach.

 

[Classic Irish]

I'm not flaming. I'm asking a legitimate question about Notre Dame football. How is it possible that you're ahead of Northwestern when the common opponent test implicates that Northwestern is a better team.

Yes, you are. You're an ND hater and a liar. Go find something else to do with your time instead of whining.

 

[Classic Irish]

We have a better record and Michigan has more or less fallen apart after the Michigan state debacle. They beat Minnesota by a yard and poor clock management by a 1st game head coach in Tracy Clays and need double overtime to beat Indiana. I'm not sure you can compare Michigan last year to this year. They have a new QB who's pretty good and an actual coach.

Boo-hoo!!

 

[wiu86]

Couple of thoughts. The Stanford team of week#1 was not the Stanford ream of Week #12. Watched both games. Identical records do not necessarily mean identical results. ND's two losses were by a total of 4 points -to the #1 and #9 ranked teams. NU's 2 losses were blowouts by a total of 68 points. I'm sure that's why the 2 teams are ranked where they are ranked but you knew all of this already didn't you ,Skakes? I do congratulate you on a fine season.

 

[IrishBlooded]

We beat you last year.
We beat Stanford this year and completely dominated them
Your best wins are Navy, USC, and Temple.
We play in the best conference in the country.
You lose to Stanford.
We have the same record.

Isn't the team that beat Stanford better than the team that lost to Stanford?

Isn't Stanford ranked ahead of Northwestern?

Wrap your head around that one.

 

[shakes3858]

Bullshit. It's an abvious flame by an inveterate flamer. Every poll, including the playoff committee poll, the coaches poll, and the AP poll has ND ahead of Northwestern. Sagarin has ND ahead of Northwestern. No one has Northwestern in front of ND. But you, a professed ND hater, start this thread on this ND board. And you claim not to be flaming.
In addition to being a d-bag, a jagoff, and a hypocrite, you are also a liar.

I thought Notre Dame was a Catholic School. That post was very un-Catholic of you. You should really get some therapy for you anger issues. Too much anger really isn't healthy.

 

[shakes3858]

The logic is the problem, football is a game of matchups.

You cannot just say 'we beat them and they lost to them therefore we are better than them'. It is not that 'simple'.

That is why the committee will always be open to question. Solution? an 8 team tourney!

This is a very valid point. Football is definitely a game of matchups. The committee may want to re-write their rules to reflect that.

 

[Johnnie82]

Here you go shakes, enjoy

 

[nemeth#5]

Here's a good post with at least some good content... but the problem is you lost to all the good teams that you played (Clemson and Stanford). You beat some above average teams (Navy, Temple, USC). And then you beat some ACC bottom feeders. Sorry, but NU beat Stanford, ND lost to Stanford. This is the playoff committees rules:

• Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
• Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)

The Citadel Beat South Carolina...... And South Carolina beat UNC. Should the Citadel be ranked ahead of the Tar Heels?

 

[shakes3858]

Couple of thoughts. The Stanford team of week#1 was not the Stanford ream of Week #12. Watched both games. Identical records do not necessarily mean identical results. ND's two losses were by a total of 4 points -to the #1 and #9 ranked teams. NU's 2 losses were blowouts by a total of 68 points. I'm sure that's why the 2 teams are ranked where they are ranked but you knew all of this already didn't you ,Skakes? I do congratulate you on a fine season.

Margin of victory/loss is not supposed to come into play. It would make sense if it did, but it's not supposed to. That way you don't get penalized for playing good teams and winning close or losing big or playing a scrub and winning huge.

Thanks for the congratulations. You guys are have a fine season too. Great job!!!

 

[Classic Irish]

I thought Notre Dame was a Catholic School. That post was very un-Catholic of you. You should really get some therapy for you anger issues. Too much anger really isn't healthy.

And I thought Northwestern was a highly esteemed academic institution, and yet you are asking the most idiotic questions. You really should get some therapy for your ND envy and profound stupidity. Too much ignorance and sharing it among strangers who know more than you really isn't healthy.

 

[shakes3858]

Isn't Stanford ranked ahead of Northwestern?

Wrap your head around that one.

Can't do that either. However, if Stanford wins the PAC 12 Championship, they're in the New Years 6 so that doesn't matter as much. It's Notre Dame, Baylor, Florida State that I think we should be above.

 

[Classic Irish]

Can't do that either. However, if Stanford wins the PAC 12 Championship, they're in the New Years 6 so that doesn't matter as much. It's Notre Dame, Baylor, Florida State that I think we should be above.

You can think whatever you want---you obviously have a lot of dumb thoughts. Get over it.