Phil to BC

[Granite45]

If I remember correctly, I read his high school girlfriend went to Boston University to play field hockey. Do they still have a relationship? Could want to be in Boston area to strengthen relationship if still ongoing.

 

[jcswoopnh]

Certainly, every ND fan wishes Phil good luck.

I’d be curious in knowing the rationale behind his decisions
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It's just some of the posters on his board who don't wish him well

 

[Kelso86]

Didn’t BC go 6-6? Not great by any measure, but a hell of a long way from worst teams in college football.

Well, we will get to see Phil J in 2022 when BC comes to town!

 

[d1042]

Well, we will get to see Phil J in 2022 when BC comes to town!

I hope he throws for 7TDs and 500 yds in a 1 point loss!

 

[1Redrum]

Certainly, every ND fan wishes Phil good luck.

I’d be curious in knowing the rationale behind his decisions
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Basically he had a terrible relationship with Long....for whatever reason Long did not like him. Because of this his relationship with Kelly suffered as Kelly would be the go between but was not always honest and upfront with Phil / Phil does not think he can trust Kelly going forward. Chip Long was quite the piece of work though with his inappropriate relationship etc. with a female student / staff member.

 

[d1042]

“inappropriate relationship”
an interesting term! where non minors are concerned, and not being held against ones will, and an assumed willing participant in the relationship, then who is it ‘inappropriate’ to? If you were willing at the time, then forever, you should be deemed a willing participant; no changing your mind years later.

 

[NCDomer1]

Basically he had a terrible relationship with Long....for whatever reason Long did not like him. Because of this his relationship with Kelly suffered as Kelly would be the go between but was not always honest and upfront with Phil / Phil does not think he can trust Kelly going forward. Chip Long was quite the piece of work though with his inappropriate relationship etc. with a female student / staff member.

This makes no sense. If Long is gone then why does Phil leave surely the new OC might have a different outlook

 

[1Redrum]

This makes no sense. If Long is gone then why does Phil leave surely the new OC might have a different outlook

Because of no trust in Kelly. Long leaving is a positive but if you already do not trust Kelly because of the way he handled the relationship while Long was the OC then why would you expect things to change?

 

[1Redrum]

“inappropriate relationship”
an interesting term! where non minors are concerned, and not being held against ones will, and an assumed willing participant in the relationship, then who is it ‘inappropriate’ to? If you were willing at the time, then forever, you should be deemed a willing participant; no changing your mind years later.

I guess because the person is a trainer at ND and a student and Long is married?

 

[twalsh]

I guess because the person is a trainer at ND and a student and Long is married?

That would certainly check the inappropriate box.

 

[Golson5]

This makes no sense. If Long is gone then why does Phil leave surely the new OC might have a different outlook

Because he wasn't going to play here

 

[d1042]

That would certainly check the inappropriate box.

but to who? I agree, certainly from his wife’s position.
but to the parties involved?
everyone else is a moral judgement / opinion.

not to be contentious- just the phrase ‘impropriate behavior’ is becoming inappropriately excessively applied.

and was ‘her’ behavior inappropriate?

 

[NCDomer1]

Because he wasn't going to play here

Again, how do you know what the new OC is going to do? Nobody is a mind reader. Yhe new OC might decide to start PJ from day one.
Maybe, there wae a

 

[twalsh]

but to who? I agree, certainly from his wife’s position.
but to the parties involved?
everyone else is a moral judgement / opinion.

not to be contentious- just the phrase ‘impropriate behavior’ is becoming inappropriately excessively applied.

and was ‘her’ behavior inappropriate?

There is a social convention aspect to this, maybe even moreso than a legal aspect. Maybe Long's marriage sucks, maybe they are effectively separated. Maybe Long just seduced this girl, made her believe things that aren't true. Maybe his marriage was fine, and the girl was a gold digger or jock sniffer combined with a home wrecker. Maybe they just innocently fell in love. Who knows. But that doesn't imply that we throw out the social convention that extra-marital affairs are GENERALLY inappropriate.

 

[NCDomer1]

Again, how do you know what the new OC is going to do? Nobody is a mind reader. The new OC might decide to start PJ from day one.
Maybe, there was deal made keeping Book from transfering.
NOBODY knows what goes on behind close doors. We thought all a long it was rees who had the problem.

 

[Golson5]

We'll be fine without PJ. Not concerned about it

 

[Zorich 88]

Doesn't he have to sit for a year?

No one sits now.

 

[NIN Irish]

No one sits now.

Maybe he can say he was called "round eye" or "pale face" by other students, and get immediate eligibility. It worked for Fields.