Sorry, I don't have anything to share at this point, but I am sure we will start to hear some things once spring practices get going (weight, speed, position changes, etc). ND hasn't announced a start date for practices but they did say the Blue-Gold game is set for April 20th.
Speaking of Wagner. Let talk hypotheticals.
I personally think this is a make or break year for Wagner. Staff and others rave about his technique and quick feet and a skill set perfectly suited for right tackle. Strength and raw power are more important than weight per se, and I don’t know what combination of weight and strength and power is needed for him to be successful. Some of the best tackles in the NFL weight around 315, and not at all sure he can’t be successful in college around 290.
I dont see it that way. Obviously this is an important year for him. But if he loses the job to Baker. He can be a 2 year starter at right tackle starting in 25 if he beats it Lambert or whoever.
We disagree, Again. Hope he wins the starting position outright this season and makes this hypothetical moot.
Thats like saying Bakers make or break was 2 years ago. But if he starts this year, it wasn't make or break
The major difference is the size and weight issue. If he can’t get to the size they need him to be this year, then I don’t see that ever happening. But obviously, we don’t know who he Will be competing with in those three years. It was widely believed that Fisher needed another season, and if he had stayed, Baker would be on the bench or more likely in the portal. Maybe Jagusah goes pro after three and Lambert moves to LT and Wagner is the best option for RT in a couple of years. I’m assuming we continue to recruit tackles at a very high level, and I think Wagner will be passed over if weight and size keep him off the field this year. Again, all hypothetical.
Telx- as I was reading your post, I was also thinking about a position change, but I have no clue where.
I agree with telx1.
There will likely be departures from the program post spring.
I think two things are being discussed separately
It was always going to take time for him. If hes really good going into his 4th year instead of his 3rd, it is what it is. It happens.
Carmody got to over 290 by his third season and couldn't keep it on once his reps increased. Wagner will have the same issues due to his metabolism. It's very unlikely that his eating will sustain the increased weight above 290 which he hasn't even reached.
I dont care if he starts or not. But to say he is like Carmody is wrong. And to say it has to be this year is also wrong.
Possible but highly unlikely for baker going forward at all being really good or Wagner making a huge leap from year 3-4 if he isn’t it this year
Baker Wagner or both? To me baker has shown he doesn’t have it… Wagner is all about size so some hope
285 in spring
He had an interview yesterday with the media and said he was 290 plus and expects to be at 300 plus by fall
Lol. No.
No. From every beat reporter he's doing way better than Carmody and I listened to two different ones this week. And they spoke about both guys. They say he's noticably more muscular and can see its obvious the work he's putting in
Thats what I do reading your posts. The Carmody thing is so silly because be doesn't have close to the natural strength of Wagner. Their power and strength levels are so different its just silly
