I don't usually start threads, and especially don't start rumors, but I've heard someone that has ties to ND, that I would not like to elaborate because I got in a heap of trouble when I leaked about Aaron Lynch coming to ND. But it seems that Kelly has gotten a lot of interest from the Giants, and it has been reciprocated. Who knows how it will work out, but this has been a fairly reliable source. I hope this person is wrong this time.
Kelly to the Giants?
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Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
Especially don't start rumors. Makes no sense since you just followed with a rumor.
Very rarely do I ever post anything, especially things like this. But funny how a couple martinis will get people talking. But yes, remember this, is just some obscure internet board. I'm sure, and hope, it was just the gin talking. But then again, one was a possible NCAA violation, this one is not.
888, I am not belittling your post. But there is just a certain irony that a pro team would be looking at Kelly, when some here are convinced that he couldn't coach a junior high team.
I'm sure even the people close to the program could be hearing a lot of BS rumbling. I think the only ones who really know are Kelly, his agents, and his lawyers. However, It does make me wonder the attrition to the NFL (some expected, some not) add any weight to this rumor. But I'm sure the trolls here know a lot more than those expert committees hired by those NFL teams to search for coaches.
I have no doubt there may be some interest from Kelly to look into a pro gig. Also I have no doubt that there may be some pro teams interested in Kelly. With that said, that doesn't mean he's leaving and it doesn't mean he's not leaving. Every year at this time coaching jobs open and names are thrown out for consideration. It's all part of being a successful coach. Kelly for the most part is a good coach and I'm sure some NFL owners are intrigued. But for now he is the coach at ND until he decides he's not. If he does happen to leave, then he leaves a program that has the arrow pointing up and I believe it is a more desirable job now than it was ten years ago. So a good coach would most likely want to come to ND.
Totally agree TK. When I first heard it I was wondering if that might be a win win. It would all depend on who's available? No names popped out right in my head, but it would be devastating to the recruiting class. I really like Kelly and I think were just a defense click away from being an elite NC team. It seems were on the cusp of turning the corner. I would really like to see what one or two more years brings. I would like to see how Sanford develops as a coach also.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
888, you sparked my interest so I googled Kelly to Giants and I read where he wouldn't go to the Giants because he would want complete control and the Giants don't operate like that.
I really hope ND can keep Coach Kelly---he has made ND relevant again and in the hunt for a Championship. For like 20 years before Kelly we were out of the Championship talk by the middle of September.
I hope that's right also Bodi, I mean I have absolutely no facts backing up my post. Just some blabbering from a person that is involved, but by no means close to Kelly. Just my gut feeling is that Kelly won't feel satisfied at ND until he either 1. Get's a NC, or 2. Get's fired. He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who leaves without accomplishing his goals. But then again, wtf do I know?
Bodi and 888 I also would like Kelly to stay. I have followed ND since the very early 70s when I was a kid. So I have seen great teams and really bad teams. I haven't felt this good about the future of ND football since Lou Holtz arrived. It has taken maybe a few more years but I truly believe if Kelly stays another 3 to 5 years , ND will be special. Hopefully they can get the defense fixed which is the big reason why they lost 3 games. For the most part they have the talent to win it all. If and when Kelly does leave I hope those in charge have someone in place that can take the Irish to the next level. I'm 100 percent behind our coach. Will Fuller's comments after the loss to Ohio St tells you everything you need to know about the Irish players and their coaches.
ND is in good shape now. If Kelly left, the program would be an attractive job for a new coach. The new coach might also be able to negotiate new rules for entrance requirements (not promoting a total downfall of requirements but if there is some reasonable changes) to bring in some guys.
I too googled Kelly to the Giants and found that as recently as today, a Kelly is mentioned, just not Brian Kelly. Many other names listed and talked about, little to nothing regarding Brian Kelly. Just a gut feeling, but would Kelly's ego allow him to leave without winning a natty? I truly think ND is close, not there yet, but close. Another strong class looks to be shaping up nicely for ND, even some new names mentioned. I don't pretend to know much about Kelly or what he's thinking, but I'm of the opinion he's not leaving ND without leaving his mark. JMO.
mixed emotions if this were to happen. On one hand - I really dislike the thought - because we will lose some good verbals we have in place. Recruiting for this one season would take a hit.
And I feel BK is on the verge of actually getting ND into that top 4.
On the other had his game day mgmt at times has been horrendous. Not many times, but enough times to really shake your head and it would also tell me a lot about the NFL - that they are not very thorough in vetting candidates who would do well at their level.
I would think if he did leave - we would hopefully find an even better replacement - now that BK and Weis (yes CW recruited well - not great - but pretty good) have showed the coaching world that you can indeed get stud recruits to come to ND. And the fact that Stanford is getting stud recruits and winning at high level also helps and bodes well for ND that they could find a great replacement.
Never a dull moment w/ ND football I know that - every off season is an adventure !
And I feel BK is on the verge of actually getting ND into that top 4.
On the other had his game day mgmt at times has been horrendous. Not many times, but enough times to really shake your head and it would also tell me a lot about the NFL - that they are not very thorough in vetting candidates who would do well at their level.
I would think if he did leave - we would hopefully find an even better replacement - now that BK and Weis (yes CW recruited well - not great - but pretty good) have showed the coaching world that you can indeed get stud recruits to come to ND. And the fact that Stanford is getting stud recruits and winning at high level also helps and bodes well for ND that they could find a great replacement.
Never a dull moment w/ ND football I know that - every off season is an adventure !
Why is it that I could care less if Kelly leaves? Not fazed at all. I don't understand why. He's a good coach, not great, good. Best we've had since Lou. So why do I feel this way? Anyone else?
I don't feel that way. Who do you think would replace Kelly for the 2016 season? We could do a lot worse. And probably will.
With ND football coach hiring record - you are correct - 3 very big misfires in a row - prior to BK. Odds are the ND brain trust would hire another dud that would be in place a minimum of 3 to 5 years.
It's actually more than that. If we assume that Saban, Meyer, and Stops are not coming to ND (and I believe there is zero chance they would), there is no one out there that I think is superior to Kelly.
The issue is that there are no realistic replacements at this point who would instill confidence.
I'd give TH an offer he couldn't refuse. If he doesn't want to leave Houston, I call charlie Strong and get him out if a situation akin to Dick Rod at UM.
Did you really just type that? You might as well contemplate Knute coaching the team in 2016.. Wake up the echoes.
Are you sure this reference was not to Chip Kelly? I believe this was reported about Chip Kelly on Sunday.
Kelly say NFL will not works for him to be HC. Kelly was told he stay for many years. Kelly can see what was happened to Chip Kelly that cause Brain Kelly not want to be HC anywhere in NFL.
Not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. Sorry for the misspelling of Stoops.
This is a very difficult decision to project a coach's possible success.
Would you hire a coach whose last 5 seasons at a Div-I Power-5 conference team had these records? 8-4
9-3
5-7
5-7
6-5
Many ND fans would not want this coach, and yet, these were the records of Lou Holtz at South Carolina.
So, if another coach had similar records at a similar school, would you be willing to take a chance on that coach? How much does the record at a different place real mean?
No doubt about it. I'm not saying that there is not another coach out there who would do wonders at ND or any other school. But as one looks around now, there is no one really jumping out as an obvious candidate.
I really think if the Giants offered to Kelly, he'd drop ND at the drop of a hat. He already showed he's willing to pursue an interest from the NFL and I do not for a moment believe he was "just seeing what the NFL was all about" as he said.
That said, Brian Kelly reminds me a lot, in terms of coaching philosophy, to that other Kelly who was shoo'd out of Philly. I doubt any NFL team wants that type of scheme after that debacle.
That said, Brian Kelly reminds me a lot, in terms of coaching philosophy, to that other Kelly who was shoo'd out of Philly. I doubt any NFL team wants that type of scheme after that debacle.
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