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Spring Practice Competition

Yeah, he has the best 'arm talent', easily in fact. With Carr, it's like he's more trained from birth or something. So he's got the pedigree and maturity or the know-how. I don't want to overstate just how talented Minchey is, but he's the higher pure upside guy. But if Carr is more efficient, more assertive, more effective, and he's a plenty good pure passer himself, then he'll probably be the guy. He's not a bad athlete either. I don't even really think of Minchey as that athletic at all. I certainly wouldn't categorize him as 'dual threat'. I do wonder if Carr would transfer if Minchey won the job.

And I wonder if Talich will win a starting spot at S. He hundred percent looks the part of someone who starts out as a walk-on at like, Iowa, and becomes an A-A, or a high draft pick. I figured someone overlooked like that would end up at Iowa or Minnesota or something. But ND managed to get him. I want that same cinderella success story.

As far as OL goes, if we have a future 1st rounder in Lambert or Jagusah, let's put them at LT. Knapp can learn to play inside, that's an easy adjustment.
Would be shocked if Luke T doesn’t get a ton of PT this year. Although he’s not your walk on type at Iowa, had offers from Utah, Or St, Wa St
 
Would be shocked if Luke T doesn’t get a ton of PT this year. Although he’s not your walk on type at Iowa, had offers from Utah, Or St, Wa St
I guess that's true. I was thinking it was only like, 1-AA or G5. Like S Dakota St., or Wyoming. In any case, I hope he's the front runner to replace Xavier. Even though we got the transfer from VTech, who does seem like a good fit for the spot.
 
You like Jagusah better at left guard ? I thought Schrauth really blossomed there last year and Jagusah next to Wagner is very intriguing. Lambert is the wild card in my opinion. I think he makes the leap. Realistically if he was an early enrollee last year he likely gets the call over Knapp. Having a spring practice under his belt really benefited Knapp. His injury will likely limit his spring participation also. Otting likely to get most of the reps at center this spring I would think.
I’m good with him at right guard, wasn’t being picky there. You’re right though assume right guard for him.

That’s why I like Knapp working on snapping due to injury and being limited
 
The guy no one is talking about who I'm hearing great things about is Sullivan Absher. Not sure where he plays, but with Knapp coming back from surgery, Craig coming back from surgery, etc... He could make a move this spring. I think, given injuries and the long, long successful season (we won't see much of Love and Price this spring, Faison is all-LAX, Pauling coming off injury, nor will Fields be on campus guys Kedren Young, Saldate, Gilbert and Cam will get a chance to step up too. And that should be fun.

My big fear is the spring transfer portal. Pretty sure we're going to lose one of those three promising QBs and probably an Offensive Lineman, maybe a WR. Still, a far cry when we had to go to the transfer portal for Cain Madden.
Stu…what surgery is Knapp coming back from? He had a high ankle sprain which kept him out of the championship game, but I don’t recall hearing anything about surgery. I agree Absher is in the discussion, but hard to see a path for him to start. Assuming Jagusah and Wagner and Schrauth are locks, that leaves two positions for Craig and Knapp and Lambert and Absher and possibly Black. I think Absher has a chance to start if Jagusah is selected at LT and Knapp gets the nod at center…left to right Jagusah-Absher-Knapp-Schrauth-Wagner. This essentially boils down to Absher beating out Lambert (even though different positions as Jagusah can play both), and Knapp beating out Craig. OL talent going into this season is really impressive as I get excited with multiple combinations.
 
Stu…what surgery is Knapp coming back from? He had a high ankle sprain which kept him out of the championship game, but I don’t recall hearing anything about surgery. I agree Absher is in the discussion, but hard to see a path for him to start. Assuming Jagusah and Wagner and Schrauth are locks, that leaves two positions for Craig and Knapp and Lambert and Absher and possibly Black. I think Absher has a chance to start if Jagusah is selected at LT and Knapp gets the nod at center…left to right Jagusah-Absher-Knapp-Schrauth-Wagner. This essentially boils down to Absher beating out Lambert (even though different positions as Jagusah can play both), and Knapp beating out Craig. OL talent going into this season is really impressive as I get excited with multiple combinations.
Even if Knapp beats out Craig at center, Craig could win the guard job as well
 
Stu…what surgery is Knapp coming back from? He had a high ankle sprain which kept him out of the championship game, but I don’t recall hearing anything about surgery. I agree Absher is in the discussion, but hard to see a path for him to start. Assuming Jagusah and Wagner and Schrauth are locks, that leaves two positions for Craig and Knapp and Lambert and Absher and possibly Black. I think Absher has a chance to start if Jagusah is selected at LT and Knapp gets the nod at center…left to right Jagusah-Absher-Knapp-Schrauth-Wagner. This essentially boils down to Absher beating out Lambert (even though different positions as Jagusah can play both), and Knapp beating out Craig. OL talent going into this season is really impressive as I get excited with multiple combinations.
Telx -- this from the South Bend Trib:

"Sophomore left tackle Anthonie Knapp (right ankle surgery in January) and defensive end Cole Mullins (left knee surgery last fall) will see modified activity this spring." Sounds like a cleanup surgery.

Really hope our top guys get healthy! But nice to know there is real competition to start.
 
Telx -- this from the South Bend Trib:

"Sophomore left tackle Anthonie Knapp (right ankle surgery in January) and defensive end Cole Mullins (left knee surgery last fall) will see modified activity this spring." Sounds like a cleanup surgery.

Really hope our top guys get healthy! But nice to know there is real competition to start.
Thanks Stu.
 
Telx -- this from the South Bend Trib:

"Sophomore left tackle Anthonie Knapp (right ankle surgery in January) and defensive end Cole Mullins (left knee surgery last fall) will see modified activity this spring." Sounds like a cleanup surgery.

Really hope our top guys get healthy! But nice to know there is real competition to start.
Look the paid board. Tons of injuries and surgeries to starters.
 
Telx -- this from the South Bend Trib:

"Sophomore left tackle Anthonie Knapp (right ankle surgery in January) and defensive end Cole Mullins (left knee surgery last fall) will see modified activity this spring." Sounds like a cleanup surgery.

Really hope our top guys get healthy! But nice to know there is real competition to start.
"Really hope our top guys get healthy! But nice to know there is real competition to start"

I would expect to see many of the top end starters having modified practices so as to not wear them out and be ready for the fall. Likewise, I would not expect to see many of them in the spring "game" as well -- no need for it.
 
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Angelli will win the qb competition in my opinion. Minchey will transfer and Carr will be the successor. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Angeli and Carr - one will start, the other will be the backup.
Minchey - special packages for him. RPO’s, goal line, Jet sweep, Jet sweep pass, etc
 
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it is what is between the ears that matters most
which of the three has the best football mind

That is the guy you want starting

You look at the greatest ND QB of the modern age which of course is Montana.
Middling arm; not very big; not a great athlete.

But he is an Immortal due to what is between the ears.
 
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it is what is between the ears that matters most
which of the three has the best football mind

That is the guy you want starting

You look at the greatest ND QB of the modern age which of course is Montana.
Middling arm; not very big; not a great athlete.

But he is an Immortal due to what is between the ears.
He was a very good athlete. Was a very good baseball and basketball player in high school. Got a basketball scholarship to NC state I believe.

Very good athlete, very accurate, high IQ
 
it is what is between the ears that matters most
which of the three has the best football mind

That is the guy you want starting

You look at the greatest ND QB of the modern age which of course is Montana.
Middling arm; not very big; not a great athlete.

But he is an Immortal due to what is between the ears.
Yes in part. Montana’s ability to quickly read and process the defense and his ability to accurately lead his receivers, often before their cuts, were the attributes that made him a GREAT qb. And yes, he had an average arm by NFL standards, but I thought he was much more athletic than you suggest. He excelled as a three sport athlete in high school, and he was excellent in sensing a collapsing pocket and extending plays.
 
it is what is between the ears that matters most
which of the three has the best football mind

That is the guy you want starting

You look at the greatest ND QB of the modern age which of course is Montana.
Middling arm; not very big; not a great athlete.

But he is an Immortal due to what is between the ears.
"Middling arm; not very big; not a great athlete"

He was an extremely very good athlete! As Golson mentioned, he had a basketball schollie waiting for him at NC State -- and he seriously considered it as they were going to allow him the opportunity to play both football and basketball. As for "middling arm"' - no, he did not have a "Dan Marino" arm, but, he was accurate enough and strong enough in both college and in the NFL.
 
Yes in part. Montana’s ability to quickly read and process the defense and his ability to accurately lead his receivers, often before their cuts, were the attributes that made him a GREAT qb. And yes, he had an average arm by NFL standards, but I thought he was much more athletic than you suggest. He excelled as a three sport athlete in high school, and he was excellent in sensing a collapsing pocket and extending plays.
Joe and a couple of other football players were asked to play basketball by Digger. Devine said no. I think it was the year of our only Final Four.
 
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Joe and a couple of other football players were asked to play basketball by Digger. Devine said no. I think it was the year of our only Final Four.
Thanks, I didn’t know this! I knew he had the scholarship offer that Golson referenced.
 
Montana was deadly on a scramble. Part of that was the west coast offense seemed kind of new at the time and teams left a lot of space on the field.
 
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He was a very good athlete. Was a very good baseball and basketball player in high school. Got a basketball scholarship to NC state I believe.

Very good athlete, very accurate, high IQ
That's my recollection of it.
 
My feeble prediction: I believe Carr will ball out in the spring and make it obvious it is his job to lose this summer. Since our guy, Steve, is running out of time, I expect him to be the transfer -- and I'll sure miss that kid. Kenny will stay and be the backup (given CJ's injury last year KM might play a lot), first guy in.

I'd love for all three to stay. My fear is if Angeli wins the job Carr will transfer to play somewhere right away or sit behind a senior (is that naive?) -- because... if Steve is the starter, he's our starter for two years, right?

But I'd love all three to stay this year. Big year for the program, imo, so important to get this right.

But what do I know? Nothing.
 
As much as I want Minchey to start, Carr looks good, and if I had to put money down it'd be on him, if he's healthy enough. Only I'll pick Minchey to transfer, and Angeli won't be the one to bolt, and will just stick it out.
 
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He was a very good athlete. Was a very good baseball and basketball player in high school. Got a basketball scholarship to NC state I believe.

Very good athlete, very accurate, high IQ
He was a good athlete; but small and rather slight.
basketball build and football build, especially when you are talking a guard, is rather different.
and just like in football, basketball players of the current age are much stronger then they were back then.
 
My feeble prediction: I believe Carr will ball out in the spring and make it obvious it is his job to lose this summer. Since our guy, Steve, is running out of time, I expect him to be the transfer -- and I'll sure miss that kid. Kenny will stay and be the backup (given CJ's injury last year KM might play a lot), first guy in.

I'd love for all three to stay. My fear is if Angeli wins the job Carr will transfer to play somewhere right away or sit behind a senior (is that naive?) -- because... if Steve is the starter, he's our starter for two years, right?

But I'd love all three to stay this year. Big year for the program, imo, so important to get this right.

But what do I know? Nothing.
From a practical standpoint, I agree. Everyone seems to rave about Carr’s mechanics, and grasp of the game, maturity, etc…. Seems to have the highest potential, but he’s not going to sit behind Angeli for two years. All three could start at a Div 1 school, and I assume each still has dreams of playing in the league. The challenge is selecting the QB that gives us the best chance for a winning season and shot at the NC, and that answer might be different for games one and two, vs the remainder of the season. I personally don’t think that answer will fly with these guys. I would selfishly drag this competition out to the Fall to minimize losing any of the three to transfer.
 
If reports are true, it's absolutely wild that Rudolph is just handing the left tackle job to Knapp without even a competition and he's not even practicing this spring.

Jagusah has been repping at guard and Lambert at Right Tackle to backup Wagner. They aren't even getting reps at Left Tackle with Knapp out.

Basically Rudolph saying it's your job Knapp. Just a crazy thing.

He loves him some Anthonie Knapp
 
If reports are true, it's absolutely wild that Rudolph is just handing the left tackle job to Knapp without even a competition and he's not even practicing this spring.

Jagusah has been repping at guard and Lambert at Right Tackle to backup Wagner. They aren't even getting reps at Left Tackle with Knapp out.

Basically Rudolph saying it's your job Knapp. Just a crazy thing.

He loves him some Anthonie Knapp
As stated above, no secret that Rudolph loves Knapp’s skill set. All I take from Spring practices re the OL up to this point, is that Rudolph is totally committed to Jagusah playing guard. And based on his performance subbing for Rocco against Penn ST, I agree. I believe you have previously opined that Lambert is really right tackle material, and so not really surprising that he’s practicing there, although I hoped he would compete for LT. If these early trends continue, the competition for LT might be Knapp-Black-Prescod-Absher. With both Knapp and Craig out for Spring, hard to know how LT and Center will be filled. But seems clear that Schauth and Jagusah will start at LG and RG, and Wagner at RT.
 
As stated above, no secret that Rudolph loves Knapp’s skill set. All I take from Spring practices re the OL up to this point, is that Rudolph is totally committed to Jagusah playing guard. And based on his performance subbing for Rocco against Penn ST, I agree. I believe you have previously opined that Lambert is really right tackle material, and so not really surprising that he’s practicing there, although I hoped he would compete for LT. If these early trends continue, the competition for LT might be Knapp-Black-Prescod-Absher. With both Knapp and Craig out for Spring, hard to know how LT and Center will be filled. But seems clear that Schauth and Jagusah will start at LG and RG, and Wagner at RT.
I think Jagusah is a better left tackle than Knapp and I've said that Lambert is a prototype Left tackle.

The fact that neither are getting reps during spring there is shocking.

Absher is not a left tackle. Rudolph is clearing the deck for Knapp to have that job.

And Wagner can return next year so what's the plan for Lambert? To sit behind Wagner for 3 years? Why not have him repping at both spots. Crazy
 
Knapp did an admirable job as a Freshman and while I assume he will be stronger and bigger (heavier) next year he will still be undersized for a tackle. With more imposing figures on the roster I agree that it is shocking they are not being given more of an opportunity. That being said lots if time until August 31st
 
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If we lose a 5 star offensive lineman to the portal because of favoritism to a 3 star guy this fan is not going to be happy. I’ve read a few posts claiming Rudolph was the main reason spindler and coogan left.
 
If we lose a 5 star offensive lineman to the portal because of favoritism to a 3 star guy this fan is not going to be happy. I’ve read a few posts claiming Rudolph was the main reason spindler and coogan left.
I dont have a problem if there is a battle and Knapp wins it. Kudos he earned it. But not to have even a competition with Jagusah and Lambert is wild.
 
If we lose a 5 star offensive lineman to the portal because of favoritism to a 3 star guy this fan is not going to be happy. I’ve read a few posts claiming Rudolph was the main reason spindler and coogan left.

If we lose a 5 star offensive lineman to the portal because of favoritism to a 3 star guy this fan is not going to be happy. I’ve read a few posts claiming Rudolph was the main reason spindler and coogan left.
If ANYONE thinks Rudolph makes any decision on any starter without significant input from MF and Denbrock they're being incredibly naive and have no clue on how things work. Let it all play out. Those folks get a lot of money to make informed decisions. If anyone here thinks they know better they need to get over themselves. Whatever combination ends up starting that O line is going to be outstanding. Personally I'll be thrilled if Jagusah ends up at guard. All American potential at that spot in my opinion.
 
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If ANYONE thinks Rudolph makes any decision on any starter without significant input from MF and Denbrock they're being incredibly naive and have no clue on how things work. Let it all play out. Those folks get a lot of money to make informed decisions. If anyone here thinks they know better they need to get over themselves. Whatever combination ends up starting that O line is going to be outstanding. Personally I'll be thrilled if Jagusah ends up at guard. All American potential at that spot in my opinion.
Here we go with the if anyone here thinks they know more than x coach blah blah blah. So they can't be wrong and we can't discuss coaching. They are so infallible then why do coaches get fired every single year. Shut down all message boards because fans can't discuss coaching decisions because they are right 100% of the time

Joe Rudolph is a good football coach. Joe Rudolph has also made personnel mistakes each of the past 2 years. So it's not off limits for a fan base to discuss such things

Charles Jagusah could be an AA guard. That's not in question. But he also may be the best left tackle on the team. Knapp can be an AA center down the road imo. That doesn't mean he should or shouldn't be there this season
 
Here we go with the if anyone here thinks they know more than x coach blah blah blah. So they can't be wrong and we can't discuss coaching. They are so infallible then why do coaches get fired every single year. Shut down all message boards because fans can't discuss coaching decisions because they are right 100% of the time

Joe Rudolph is a good football coach. Joe Rudolph has also made personnel mistakes each of the past 2 years. So it's not off limits for a fan base to discuss such things

Charles Jagusah could be an AA guard. That's not in question. But he also may be the best left tackle on the team. Knapp can be an AA center down the road imo. That doesn't mean he should or shouldn't be there this season
Mistakes because you say so ? Thats hindsighting. Every coach everywhere makes mistakes. We all do in every walk of life. My issue is your ridiculous suggestion that any coach has a personal " agenda" when it comes to decision making. I find it insulting and any coach worth their salt would also. It's big boy football with billions of dollars in revenue. No one is risking their careers by doing things that aren't in theirs or their teams best interests. Now it will be a much different spring practice dynamic than normal. Restricted work for many players due to the long season and many major and minor injury recovery times. I don't expect any players to win or lose any job this spring given the circumstances. Four of your 5 starting o line from 2024 will be restricted or out of practice. Let's see where things stand around August 20th.
 
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Mistakes because you say so ? Thats hindsighting. Every coach everywhere makes mistakes. We all do in every walk of life. My issue is your ridiculous suggestion that any coach has a personal " agenda" when it comes to decision making. I find it insulting and any coach worth their salt would also. It's big boy football with billions of dollars in revenue. No one is risking their careers by doing things that aren't in theirs or their teams best interests. Now it will be a much different spring practice dynamic than normal. Restricted work for many players due to the long season and many major and minor injury recovery times. I don't expect any players to win or lose any job this spring given the circumstances. Four of your 5 starting o line from 2024 will be restricted or out of practice. Let's see where things stand around August 20th.
Mistakes that were obviously to anyone, even you would admit it if you weren't speaking to me.

2024 - Started RS frosh Sam Pendleton. And started him next to a true frosh. Obviously it took him a few games to realize the mistake but he eventually got replaced by Rocco Spindler. Rocco was better this year by a lot than Sam. No doubt or question about it. He started the wrong guy. Sam struggled from game 1 and Rocco when given the opportunity was much better. Clear mistake. What made the decision even odder he started him next to the true frosh instead of next to a RS soph. Very odd on both counts. Clear mistake

2023 - Started Zeke over Craig. Craig came in and played the last 3.5 games after Zeke got injured. Again Craig was clearly better. So much so they pushed Zeke to transfer because Craig stole his job. Why did he not see this before the injury? Next was starting Coogan over Rocco. Coogan got injured and Rocco started the last 3 games. Again the bench player outperformed the starter picked by Rudolph. Again why didn't he see this?

On your comment about coaches having a personal agenda. Wrong. You didn't comprehend. Coaches do have preferences. In all sports. There is something he loves about Knapp. Maybe it's how hard he works maybe it's how good he is as a run blocker. Who knows. But he absolutely loves him some Anthonie Knapp. And yes coaches in all sports have preferences and biases. There is no doubt about that
 
RudolphI think Jagusah is a better left tackle than Knapp and I've said that Lambert is a prototype Left tackle.

The fact that neither are getting reps during spring there is shocking.

Absher is not a left tackle. Rudolph is clearing the deck for Knapp to have that job.

And Wagner can return next year so what's the plan for Lambert? To sit behind Wagner for 3 years? Why not have him repping at both spots. Crazy
The O line is in good hands with Rudolph.
 
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