Try improving your reading comprehension skills, the question was about the position, not the player.
Have someone explain that to you?
Saban's one of the Greatest Coaches of All-Time, but..
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Have someone explain that to you?
Each staff carries around 13 pitchers.
The QB is the most valuable player in all of sports because they have the ball in their hands on every offensive play. They can also play in every game unlike a pitcher
They also dont get pulled 3/4 of the game like pitchers do. It's very rare they finish games anymore which decreases their value
Qb is more valuable than a pitcher
The pitcher also has the ball in his hands on every play.
And the pitcher throws the ball on every play
QB’s can be effectively be replaced by other position players on the roster, Pitchers can’t effectively be replaced other position players on the roster
MLB restricts in-season rosters to 14 pitchers which should tell you how important the pitching position is. It’s so important that teams stack their rosters with 14 of them
Who's whining? Wow you really should go back to school and take some reading classes.
I stated Saban is one of the greatest college football coaches of all time, and i called him a hypocrite for coming out and stating that college football is losing its grip on the "student-athlete" when he's been a staunch facilitator of prioritizing the athlete over the student. Up until the last few years Alabama's football graduation rate was barely above 50%. So it's not whining, it's discussing facts.
i can't help that you can't understand the written word.
That's true but he does have the clout to change this runaway train.
It wasn't ever suppose to be able to buy a championship
Well then by your own admission ND should just open up that billion dollar purse and buy a team.
That’s absolutely not true and that’s never been my position
Let me make myself clear, Notre Dame is it institution of higher learning first, followed by great athletic programs and a storied athletic history
Notre Dame excels in academics and athletics, and that’s the proper order
I didnt say to drop standards, but to open the purse, how else do you expect ND to compete with those that not only can recruit without the same restriction, but can now buy players?
How do you expect for ND to keep what quality players they have from leaving for a better chance to not only win an NC, but get paid millions to do so?
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What college football players are being paid millions and by whom ?
Colleges/Universities are prohibited from paying players
Geez you can't be that far out of the loop:
How much money did Caleb Williams make
in NIL?
around $10 million
In a Wednesday story looking at how Williams and his family
are approaching the draft process, The Athletic -- citing
multiple anonymous sources - reported the former
Oklahoma quarterback earned "around $10 million"
between NIL deals and endorsements in his two seasons at
USC..
Do you need more?
Big Money Donors Have Stepped Out of the Shadows to Create ‘Chaotic’ NIL Market
Less than a year into the NIL Era, officials say the college sports landscape is dramatically shifting back into the booster-driven world that plagued it decades ago.
Let me guess you were unaware?
‘What NIL stands for: Now it’s legal’: Ruling frees booster-backed groups to negotiate with recruits
Forced into yet another courtroom to defend its amateur model of athletics, the NCAA insisted that shelving its rules against name, image and likeness compensation being offered to recruits would m…
www.kget.com
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Send money! The NIL era has some football coaches telling fans to put up or shut up for top recruits
The ability of college athletes to earn endorsement money based on their celebrity status has led to millions of dollars flowing in and around universities across the country.
apnews.com
Check out the Ryan Day, and James Franklin quote:
......."But there’s been some very, you know…once [Ryan Day] and he….I think he came out publicly and said, yeah we need $13 million to keep this roster in play. And then I believe James Franklin came back and said well 13, we need 14. I mean, don’t quote me exactly on that,” Stoops said.
www.on3.com
......."But there’s been some very, you know…once [Ryan Day] and he….I think he came out publicly and said, yeah we need $13 million to keep this roster in play. And then I believe James Franklin came back and said well 13, we need 14. I mean, don’t quote me exactly on that,” Stoops said.
Mark Stoops on why he's now speaking out for NIL support: 'I'm gonna fight the fight'
Kentucky head coach Mark Stoops talked about why he's finally speaking out about NIL for support. Check out what he had to say here and more.
Geez you can't be that far out of the loop:
How much money did Caleb Williams make
in NIL?
around $10 million
In a Wednesday story looking at how Williams and his family
are approaching the draft process, The Athletic -- citing
multiple anonymous sources - reported the former
Oklahoma quarterback earned "around $10 million"
between NIL deals and endorsements in his two seasons at
USC..
Do you need more?
Big Money Donors Have Stepped Out of the Shadows to Create ‘Chaotic’ NIL Market
Less than a year into the NIL Era, officials say the college sports landscape is dramatically shifting back into the booster-driven world that plagued it decades ago.www.si.com
Let me guess you were unaware?
‘What NIL stands for: Now it’s legal’: Ruling frees booster-backed groups to negotiate with recruits
Forced into yet another courtroom to defend its amateur model of athletics, the NCAA insisted that shelving its rules against name, image and likeness compensation being offered to recruits would m…
DIP, I don't want to speak for Patrirish--Lord knows he is able to do that himself--but I think the point he was making is that NIL doesn't come from the schools directly, but comes from booster-funded collectives. That is, under the NCAA's NIL rules payments for athletic-related performance cannot come from the universities themselves but must come from third party groups, such as businesses or booster-funded collectives. To me that is a slippery slope we are on; if the head coach of the football team can go to the collective and say, "we need a $2 million NIL package to get this recruit to come here," is that really diferent in substance from the money coming from the school itself? While it gives the school cover and allows it to say they are not directly involved in providing a financial recruiting inducment, doesn't that elevate form over substance?
The Ed O'Bannon antitrust lawsuit against the NCAA that triggered the institution of NIL involved the question of whether student-athletes could be compensated for the use of their name, image or likeness. In other words, it involved athletes who were already enrolled in school. Under current NCAA rules NIL is not supposed to be used as a recruiting inducment--pay for play--but that is exactly what is happening. However, this new ruling by a federal judge, which granted a preliminary injunction in a lawsuit brought by the attorneys general of Tennessee and Virginia, throws the NCAA's position into doubt. That lawsuit challenges NCAA rules against recruiting inducements, saying they unlawfully inhibit an athlete's ability to cash in on their name, image or likeness.
NCAA rules still prohibit schools directly paying athletes and any payment or compensation being tied specifically to athletic performance, but based upon the recent court ruling the NCAA will now apparently back off from going after schools that use NIL as a recruiting inducement.
I guess we just wait to see where all this goes. It is a mess.
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Please believe me I know Pat has no problem speaking for himself
Now i know this, and never said it doesn't come "directly from the university" wink wink, but that doesn't change the facts now does it, and the devils in the details.
Notre Dame as a few other universities had one had tied behind its back.......this (NIL) if not countered by Notre Dame boosters wink wink will be a hill to steep to climb
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Now if boosters represents the universities then how is that any different than coming from the universities?
Just curious
Just curious
NIL is destroying college football. There is no doubt about that.
Maybe the worst thing to ever happen to college football. That and the new transfer rules.
Because in theory the collectives are supposed to be independent of the universities. That may be elevating form over substance, but that is the explanation given. Those with a more cynical view of NIL say it just legalizes what used to be the brown paper sack full of cash, hence the "Now Its Legal" name attached to it.
I don't have a problem with athletes being paid for the use of their name, image or likeness--that is eminently fair in my mind--but the pay for play scheme that NIL has now become seems like it may very well end up corrupting the game. Of course, some would say that horse left the barn a long time ago. The rich will just get richer. The NCAA seems powerless to stop this train, so maybe Congress may have to put some legislative brakes on it. We'll see. Not holding my breath.
This short article gives some helpful information on collectives:
What are NIL Collectives? | Icon Source
NIL collectives are cropping up at universities across the country—so what exactly are they? And what’s the benefit for athletes?
iconsource.com
I just read that earlier today though is it cynical for seeing what it is?Because in theory the collectives are supposed to be independent of the universities. That may be elevating form over substance, but that is the explanation given. Those with a more cynical view of NIL say it just legalizes what used to be the brown paper sack full of cash, hence the "Now Its Legal" name attached to it.
I don't have a problem with athletes being paid for the use of their name, image or likeness--that is eminently fair in my mind--but the pay for play scheme that NIL has now become seems like it may very well end up corrupting the game. Of course, some would say that horse left the barn a long time ago. The rich will just get richer. The NCAA seems powerless to stop this train, so maybe Congress may have to put some legislative brakes on it. We'll see. Not holding my breath.
This short article gives some helpful information on collectives:
What are NIL Collectives? | Icon Source
NIL collectives are cropping up at universities across the country—so what exactly are they? And what’s the benefit for athletes?
BTW do we really need the federal government to fix this?
You left off a critically important fact, neither kaleb Williams, or any other player, who is paid millions of dollars by the college/university they played for, which is what you claimedGeez you can't be that far out of the loop:
How much money did Caleb Williams make
in NIL?
around $10 million
In a Wednesday story looking at how Williams and his family
are approaching the draft process, The Athletic -- citing
multiple anonymous sources - reported the former
Oklahoma quarterback earned "around $10 million"
between NIL deals and endorsements in his two seasons at
USC..
Do you need more?
Big Money Donors Have Stepped Out of the Shadows to Create ‘Chaotic’ NIL Market
Less than a year into the NIL Era, officials say the college sports landscape is dramatically shifting back into the booster-driven world that plagued it decades ago.
Let me guess you were unaware?
‘What NIL stands for: Now it’s legal’: Ruling frees booster-backed groups to negotiate with recruits
Forced into yet another courtroom to defend its amateur model of athletics, the NCAA insisted that shelving its rules against name, image and likeness compensation being offered to recruits would m…
NIL is the law of the land
The Supreme Court made that decision
The colleges/universities are prohibited from making any payments to them, which is what you implied
Get your facts right before you post
Boosters do not represent the universities
You don’t understand the relationships and the dynamic
Tell us how a booster can enrich a player
Thanks
Lmao
Where did I post universities were pays them......get your facts right
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Booster don't represent universities?
They are boosting for the university.
Maybe the university isn't affiliated offically wink wink with their booster, but they don't refuse money from them. Call it what you want...plausible deniability, what ever but you are fooling yourself that's for sure
I've posted articles/videos of how this works. Don't watch/read them I don't care what you do to keep yourself ignorant
Can Universities be involved in NIL deals?
Schools would not be permitted to directly compensate student-athletes for the use of their NIL BUT could identify potential NIL opportunities for student-athletes and even facilitate deals between student-athletes and third parties.
Where do schools get NIL money?
Another source of NIL money comes from group licensing opportunities. In some states, companies are allowed to enter into group licensing agreements with colleges or athletic departments. This allows companies to use the collective NIL rights of a team or school in advertising and promotions.Jun 16, 2023
Where does the college NIL money come from?
The industry's growth has been driven in large part by collectives. These donor-backed groups facilitate NIL opportunities like autograph signings and appearances at fundraisers and account for 80% of the money flowing to student-athletes. The remaining 20% comes from brand deals, per Opendorse.Sep 19, 2023
Can boosters pay NIL money?
The only people who cannot currently donate to NIL opportunities are coaches and athletic administrators. Fans and boosters can donate through collectives or agencies and can get very specific in where they want their money targeted.
Schools would not be permitted to directly compensate student-athletes for the use of their NIL BUT could identify potential NIL opportunities for student-athletes and even facilitate deals between student-athletes and third parties.
Where do schools get NIL money?
Another source of NIL money comes from group licensing opportunities. In some states, companies are allowed to enter into group licensing agreements with colleges or athletic departments. This allows companies to use the collective NIL rights of a team or school in advertising and promotions.Jun 16, 2023
Where does the college NIL money come from?
The industry's growth has been driven in large part by collectives. These donor-backed groups facilitate NIL opportunities like autograph signings and appearances at fundraisers and account for 80% of the money flowing to student-athletes. The remaining 20% comes from brand deals, per Opendorse.Sep 19, 2023
Can boosters pay NIL money?
The only people who cannot currently donate to NIL opportunities are coaches and athletic administrators. Fans and boosters can donate through collectives or agencies and can get very specific in where they want their money targeted.
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Tell that to Coach Holtz. While he will agree the NCAA disagrees. See Kim Dumbar mid 1990’s.
For someone who is as arrogant as you and who posts so GD much you don’t shit about anything.
Kim Dunbar was the girlfriend of a player and she paid $ 25 to join a breakfast club and because of her joining the breakfast club the NCAA deemed her to be a booster.
Try telling the entire story, if you even know it
That could be but I know exponentially more than you.
You’re a mental midget and a tool
I know far more about the relationship between boosters and the University of Notre Dame than you.
The University of Notre Dame accepts money from me, am I a booster ?
She was consider a booster and a rep of the university.
Keep telling yourself that
"Fans and boosters can donate through collectives or agencies and can get very specific in where they want their money targeted"
Can Universities be involved in NIL deals?
"Schools would not be permitted to directly compensate student-athletes for the use of their NIL BUT could identify potential NIL opportunities for student-athletes and even facilitate deals between student-athletes and third parties."
...."and even facilitate deals between student-athletes and third parties."
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