Exactly. By that logic There will be 10 medicore teams. 1 pretty good one, and 1 elite one at year's end.
Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?
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I think you're being unreasonably pedantic...so I'll fight fire with fire!
It's more accurate and stricter to say: ND aspires to host an opening playoff to enhance the odds of an aspirational NC!
There I fixed it for you.
And yeah, playing at home is statistically helpful. I believe ND hosting plays a significant factor vs strong teams. I think playing teams like Ole Miss is very different at South Bend vs their home.
How about if we change your name from chaseball to bamafan chase? That's who you really pull for.
They should change this sign to "Notre Dame Fighting Irish 12-team Playoff Seasons" and "Play Like A 12-team Playoff Team Today"
So they can cash in on these "playoff seasons" while winning 10+ games vs the garden variety schlep in the ACC & G5.
You are beyond a doubt the most ignorant poster who has ever posted on this board. And that is saying something. You are beyond help. You don't listen to anyone else. Your mind, or what passes for a mind, is intractable and incapable of making any sense. See those bricks on the hoto your attached? Those bricks are like trying to talk some sense into you.
Are you chase just posting under another handle? Listen: you can't win the championship unless you make the playoffs. And if you make the playoffs, wouldn't you prefer to play at home as opposed to on the road? It's really not that difficult to understand.
ND is a blue blood/old money. They are historically one of the best 8 programs in the history of the sport and have all of the built in advantages that come with being a blue blood. Their competition isn't the other 130 teams in college football -- but rather the other 7 blue bloods in their tier -- and they've been behind every single one of them (less Nebraska) for going on 30 years now.
Merely making the playoff IS mediocrity.
With NDs revenue/position in college football they should enjoy runs among the tier 1 at least a few times a decade but they've been completely out classed by tier 1 teams for going on 30 years now. And instead of fixing it, and investing in a tier 1 product to match theirs fans enthusiasm, they instead invest in heavy handed PR to control the message while letting the product wither away into endless mediocrity.
I dont know if im more frustrated with the lackluster product/results or their constant insulting of their fans intelligence.
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No, making the playoffs is not mediocre. The fact that you would say this shows how little you know about the game. But you have proved how little you know about a thousand times on this board. Just unbelievably stupid. Incredibly dumb.
If ND made the playoffs as a tier 1 team, as a favorite to do damage in the playoffs, as a program with a good chance to win the playoff, or at least be competitive very deep into the playoff, it would be different.
But they're getting into the playoff because of their name recognition and over inflated W-L record due to the poor competition on their schedule and then getting completely ran over by legit national title relevant teams.
Instead of being humbled and coming to terms with this and acknowledging the issues, and fixing the product, they instead come up with endless excuses and self righteous indignation about the state of college football, and then they proceed to piss on their fans and call it rain. And apparently ND fans just love it. "More urine please!"
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We are two wins from a one loss season and a shot at making a playoff run. This isn't 1990. That is a good season.
We're ranked 8th in F+ a slight improvement from the last 10 years of 10-15th ranked ad naseum results on aggregate.
We're still way too far away from the tier 1 quality of teams and would need nothing short of a miracle in order to take 4 games vs the teams we'll likely be facing in the playoff that are gatekeeping a national title trophy.
And fans aren't stupid. They see the writing on the wall and are already preparing themselves psychologically for the inevitable playoff pantsing that will be coming live on national TV.
"Things are great at ND Football! We hosted a home game in the 12 team playoff!"
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No one is dominating this team. Too much parity in cfb right now and our defense is too good for the team to get embarrassed. If we do lose, it will be competitiveWe're ranked 8th in F+ a slight improvement from the last 10 years of 10-15th ranked ad naseum results on aggregate.
We're still way too far away from the tier 1 quality of teams and would need nothing short of a miracle in order to take 4 games vs the teams we'll likely be facing in the playoff that are gatekeeping a national title trophy.
And fans aren't stupid. They see the writing on the wall and are already preparing themselves psychologically for the inevitable playoff pantsing that will be coming live on national TV.
"Things are great at ND Football! We hosted a home game in the 12 team playoff!"
Interesting. You know less than any other poster on this site. Yes, just think about the thousands of people who have posted here over the years. You are the least informed of all of them. There are not words in the English language to describe how profoundly dense you are. And yet, you, in your warped mind, seem to think that you know more than anyone else.
Let's see. In this week's Coaches poll, ND is #6. In this week's ND poll, ND is # 6. In this week's playoff rankings, ND is # 6. But you have decided that you know more than the coaches who get paid millions of dollars to coach the game. You have decided that you know more than the sportswriters who get paid to write about the game. You have unilaterally declared that ND is not worthy.
This gets me back to the statement I have made to you at least 100 times. GO FIND ANOTHER SCHOOL TO PULL FOR. ND OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT LIVE UP YO YOUR LOFTY STANDARDS.
There was parity in the results earlier in the season but there's now a clear top 5/tier 1. If ND faces any of those top 5 they will be big underdogs. This also lines up with how far behind they are in the team talent composite rankings relative to these tier 1 teams as well.
How many more years (decades even) of hindsight do we need to witness before I earn a smidgen of the benefit of the doubt?
You will never get the benefit of the doubt. You are wrong, clearly wrong.
Notre Dame is #1 in GSR (academics) and #1 in defense, top 15 in offense, 2nd in margin of victory, all while Freeman has the best record against the spread since he became coach. Seems they are much better than a "perpetual underdog/Cinderalla". That sounds like the premier school / GOLD STANDARD for a blend of academics and athletics.
Hosting a playoff game is big money, and, better than playing on the road, and, increases likelihood of moving onto the 2nd round. You can't win a championship if you don't make it to the 2nd round first.
Looking how the playoff picture is shaping up that #5 slot is certainly appealing. In most years it would be the G5 team in round 1 followed by the weakest conference champ in round 2 - thus - into the Final 4 with relative ease.
I've been a big believer that part of ND's poor NYD bowl performances (and CFP appearances) are a result of having such a large lay-off b/w last game and bowl / playoff game. Conference Championships are held, what, 2 weeks after last game ND plays? That's a distinct advantage. That 1st round playoff game will negate that.
Notre Dame is doing just fine!
Please provide proof/link of someone saying they are satisfied with a 1st round home playoff game.
No. There is absolutely not a clear top 5.
It also doesn't line up because we are ahead of Ole miss in team talent rankings. So incorrect
You know who is not making the playoff? Traditional powers USC, Michigan, Florida, Florida State, LSU, etc. Beat USC and we are in with a shot to advance. I have no idea what you are whining about. The program is trending up. Our D can cause teams problems.
We have? maybe you have, but I know going into every season believing ND will win a NC.
Exactly. What these neanderthals don't understand is you can have multiple goals. I set quarterly goals for my team and even myself, and it's usually 3.
ND football teams goals:
1. Make playoffs
2. Host playoff game
3. Win Championship
“I have no logical response, so I’ll just say something completely meaningless”
Thanks for reinforcing the accuracy of my statements. The board regulars, as usual, make their ancestors proud.
Yes there's a clear top 5 in F+ rating (5 teams way out infront of the rest of the pack, with OSU WAAY out in front in a tier of their own)
These tier 1 teams (including Georgia who is at #6) also are way out in front in team talent composite as per 247. These are the teams that have 15, 20, 25+ more 5 star players and top 100 players on their 85 man roster than ND does (in another talent tier entirely). Ole Miss being the only exception--but Lane Kiffin is one of those coaches who has proven that he's able to produce elite F+ seasons with subpar talent (these coaches are far and few between). His roster is also loaded with TONS of transfers that are not comprehensively reflected in the 247 talent rankings.
Basically if ND faces any of these top 5 or 6 teams they'll be a major underdog and probably get ran over yet again. Even if they don't get ran over, the chances that they'll actually win these games is far too low for a team of NDs resources. And its embarrassing that year after year ND essentially heads into the regular season with the same program handicap unable to compete with the top teams in college football (but its disguised by their shit-tier schedule vs the ACC & G5) only to be exposed when they actually play a legit contender with a pulse.
Moreover, NDs 2025 recruiting class is down to #14 in the country with only like 1 or 2 players in the composite top 100 (and its yet another recruiting class without a single 5-star commit). The problems are GLARING AND OBVIOUS and apparently im the only one that gives a shit about it.
I've been making one variation of this post or another for nearly 1.5 decades now and even with the benefit of hindsight over that time, i'm still viewed by a segment of this board as a troll who is spouting nonsense to rile up the board. That's why I ask, how many more decades of hindsight do we need, with my take being proven correct over and over again, before I earn some semblance of the benefit of the doubt with these people?
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