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The poll and why it's such a sham...

This is a really tough/odd year I think. I don't really see a clear cut favorite or any team that is standing out as the best team in the country.

I think Oregon is in control of their destiny at this point because their schedule is pretty soft to end the season. But, they will have a BIG title game to play.

Georgia still strikes me as the most complete team, though I believe their QB is suspect and might be their achilles heal.

PSU is the odd ball. I'm not sure what to think of them yet, even though they may have the best resume to this point. They need to beat OSU, end of story.

OSU could very run the table and beat everyone. I hate em, but they're always very good across the board.

I don't know how the playoff seeding will shake out, but at this point, I would not be surprised if its an OSU vs UGA title game.
Psu has the best resume to this point.....what??

Not even close

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Psu has the best resume to this point.....what??

Not even close

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LOL, I dunno man. Of the top 5 teams, the argument can be made. OSU, UGA and Miami are out, they're schedules right now don't impress me. Between Oregon and PSU, they have the best "wins" of those 5. Oregon might very well have the best wins at the moment, as much I hate to say that. Dunno why... i just dont like oregon... lol
 
LOL, I dunno man. Of the top 5 teams, the argument can be made. OSU, UGA and Miami are out, they're schedules right now don't impress me. Between Oregon and PSU, they have the best "wins" of those 5. Oregon might very well have the best wins at the moment, as much I hate to say that. Dunno why... i just dont like oregon... lol
No it can't. Not at all. Their resume right now is awful

Oregon beat Ohio State, Boise State and Illinois by 29

Ped beat Illinois by 14 and that's it. They have no good wins

Georgia's resume is better than Peds
 
She's the usual modern day clueless journalist. I don't know any really good writers right now, be it sports or other topics. The majority have an agenda...asserting the why, rather than who, what, when, and where.

I read The Athletic, but the same holds. Once upon a time journalists were vetted, took their time, and were decently paid. Today it's like real time thought propagation, publishing fast and furiously, with a social media edge...for a few dollars more.
Sports media has become the same narrative driven crap as the news media.
 
I think OSU boat races them.
The two teams that are hard to figure out and iffy to bet on (or against) are OSU and Georgia. Both are absolutely LOADED with top tier talent but it also depends on which team shows up. Keep in mind OSU barely beat Nebraska and Georgia was lucky to get by Kentucky 13-12 (and lost to Alabama). On the other side of it, you just know either team could explode at any given moment-game.
 
No it can't. Not at all. Their resume right now is awful

Oregon beat Ohio State, Boise State and Illinois by 29

Ped beat Illinois by 14 and that's it. They have no good wins

Georgia's resume is better than Peds
Ped? How old are you? 14? Good grief I didn't realize I was talking to a spazzy teenage kid... Think you're late for gym class or something kid. smh.
 
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Ped? How old are you? 14? Good grief I didn't realize I was talking to a spazzy teenage kid... Think you're late for gym class or something kid. smh.
Yeah ped state. They will always be ped state

Doesn't change the fact their resume is trash
 
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LOL, I dunno man. Of the top 5 teams, the argument can be made. OSU, UGA and Miami are out, they're schedules right now don't impress me. Between Oregon and PSU, they have the best "wins" of those 5. Oregon might very well have the best wins at the moment, as much I hate to say that. Dunno why... i just dont like oregon... lol
The Bucktards have played one good team and LOST. Miami has played no one other than a decent Louisville team and beat them by a TD. They are lucky to be undefeated, California/VTech damn near beat them. GA schedule is fine, not sure why u think its bad (TX/AL/Clemson are all good teams). PSU has played some decent teams (USC/IL/Wisconsin). Oregon looks pretty good to me.
 
Ped? How old are you? 14? Good grief I didn't realize I was talking to a spazzy teenage kid... Think you're late for gym class or something kid. smh.
My guess is hes around 20-24 year old range, living with mommy and daddy in their basement.
 
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USC/Wisconsin/IL are not trash. Decent teams not trash. By the way, you keep solidifying that you are a complete moron.
Trash compared to Oregons resume.

Those teams are decent average.

Ped states resume stinks bottom line
 
That was over 12 years ago, you are such a fricking moron
Cool ped state they will always and forever be through eternity.

You talking shit as you call Ohio State the Bucktards !

Just hilarious the hypocrite you are

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This is a really tough/odd year I think. I don't really see a clear cut favorite or any team that is standing out as the best team in the country.

I think Oregon is in control of their destiny at this point because their schedule is pretty soft to end the season. But, they will have a BIG title game to play.

Georgia still strikes me as the most complete team, though I believe their QB is suspect and might be their achilles heal.

PSU is the odd ball. I'm not sure what to think of them yet, even though they may have the best resume to this point. They need to beat OSU, end of story.

OSU could very run the table and beat everyone. I hate em, but they're always very good across the board.

I don't know how the playoff seeding will shake out, but at this point, I would not be surprised if its an OSU vs UGA title game.
It doesn't matter much. All of those teams are large favorites to make it into the playoff. Even the ones without a bye will be large favorites over their Big12 also-ran opponents. yawn_playoff
 
It doesn't matter much. All of those teams are large favorites to make it into the playoff. Even the ones without a bye will be large favorites over their Big12 also-ran opponents. yawn_playoff
The most likely scenario is Oregon is undefeated and Ohio State P-State and Indiana all have a loss. Since Ohio State would have beaten them both if that occurs we then would see them rematch Oregon. The problem then becomes, let's say if they beat Oregon, that the B1G now has 4 teams at 12-1,12-1, 11-1, 11-1. And neither P-State or Indiana will have played Oregon. Indiana is the turd in the punch bowl in a lot of ways.
 
In the ACC Pitt has the toughest road ahead. @ SMU, Vs Clemson @Louisville @BC. I expect them to lose 2 of those. If they win them all then SMU and Clemson both have 2 losses. Miami has an easier path, as they play none of the teams ranked in the top of the standings. Although @ GaTech and @ Syracuse could be tricky. SMU has only one road game the rest of the way. @ UVA. Their toughest game left is Pitt, although CAL has been in every game this year as have BC. Clemson gets Louisville and S.Carolina at home but goes on the road to VaTech and Pitt.
 
If this continues where due to large league size and no ability to play everybody, could anyone foresee the future addition of a seeding game the same week as the conference title games in order to break potential tie breakers? For example: In the B1G scenario, let's say Ohio State rematches with Oregon. and P-State and Indiana are both 11-1. P-State playes Indiana to determine the At-Large bid? Or do they all get in? What happens if Ohio St loses and is 11-2? They would have beaten P-State and Indiana. Do they get in at 11-2 over one of those two? Or does the B1G Title game loss keep them out?
 
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If this continues where due to large league size and no ability to play everybody, could anyone foresee the future addition of a seeding game the same week as the conference title games in order to break potential tie breakers? For example: In the B1G scenario, let's say Ohio State rematches with Oregon. and P-State and Indiana are both 11-1. P-State playes Indiana to determine the At-Large bid? Or do they all get in? What happens if Ohio St loses and is 10-2? They would have beaten P-State and Indiana. Do they get in at 10-2 over one of those two? Or does the B1G Title game loss keep them out?

In that unlikely scenario, I think all four teams might make the playoff. Oregon number one, and the other three in the 5-12 slots. If Ohio State was the 12th team at 11-2, that would be one hell of a playoff bracket.
 
If this continues where due to large league size and no ability to play everybody, could anyone foresee the future addition of a seeding game the same week as the conference title games in order to break potential tie breakers? For example: In the B1G scenario, let's say Ohio State rematches with Oregon. and P-State and Indiana are both 11-1. P-State playes Indiana to determine the At-Large bid? Or do they all get in? What happens if Ohio St loses and is 10-2? They would have beaten P-State and Indiana. Do they get in at 10-2 over one of those two? Or does the B1G Title game loss keep them out?
Conference tournaments are the logical next money grab. I think they will do that after they form a cartel of 68 or whatever teams.
 
LOL, I dunno man. Of the top 5 teams, the argument can be made. OSU, UGA and Miami are out, they're schedules right now don't impress me. Between Oregon and PSU, they have the best "wins" of those 5. Oregon might very well have the best wins at the moment, as much I hate to say that. Dunno why... i just dont like oregon... lol
"OSU, UGA and Miami are out, they're schedules right now don't impress me."

Not sure about GA and Miami, but OSU has unbeaten PSU and unbeaten Indiana left. PSU seems to lay an egg when going against OSU, and Indiana, well, we will find out about them
 
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"OSU, UGA and Miami are out, they're schedules right now don't impress me."

Not sure about GA and Miami, but OSU has unbeaten PSU and unbeaten Indiana left. PSU seems to lay an egg when going against OSU, and Indiana, well, we will find out about them
Good point.
 
It doesn't matter much. All of those teams are large favorites to make it into the playoff. Even the ones without a bye will be large favorites over their Big12 also-ran opponents. yawn_playoff

Yawn as much as you want, but I'm thrilled to finally have a play off. Let em settle it on the field the way every other sport does.
 
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We will find out this weekend
I think we'll know what we need to about PSU this weekend. I live in this town and dont' buy into the nonsense, but I think they're a bit better than some here give them credit for. Question is, can they put a complete game together to beat the bucknuts.
 
I think we'll know what we need to about PSU this weekend. I live in this town and dont' buy into the nonsense, but I think they're a bit better than some here give them credit for. Question is, can they put a complete game together to beat the bucknuts.
Ohio State's offense has struggled some as well, such as last week vs Nebraska. This should be a great game.
 
Ohio State's offense has struggled some as well, such as last week vs Nebraska. This should be a great game.
Penn State plays much tougher at home than on the road. I think if the game was in Columbus, the Nitts would get boatraced.
 
Georgia has a win over Texas in Austin . PSU got anything like that ?
A Texas team that CLEARLY was overrated.
They'd done nothing to deserve the #1 spot to that point other than trendy assumptions and the point of this thread.
 
Not the way Clemson has and ND got lucky that Navy had six turnovers.
The below poster doesn't understand real football outside of Xbox.
Yes we got lucky Navy self destructed so badly. It happens in sport but yes we got lucky with that.

Lucky ..... Come on
Indeed we were lucky.
Navy's last turnover was in week 1.

Again if you'd had ever actually played
turnovers happen. You try to keep to a minimum but it's part of the game.
Unfortunately for Navy they all came pouring in against us.
 
The below poster doesn't understand real football outside of Xbox.
Yes we got lucky Navy self destructed so badly. It happens in sport but yes we got lucky with that.


Indeed we were lucky.
Navy's last turnover was in week 1.

Again if you'd had ever actually played
turnovers happen. You try to keep to a minimum but it's part of the game.
Unfortunately for Navy they all came pouring in against us.
Yeah all luck....
 
The below poster doesn't understand real football outside of Xbox.
Yes we got lucky Navy self destructed so badly. It happens in sport but yes we got lucky with that.


Indeed we were lucky.
Navy's last turnover was in week 1.

Again if you'd had ever actually played
turnovers happen. You try to keep to a minimum but it's part of the game.
Unfortunately for Navy they all came pouring in against us.
I can't figure out how some people can't understand that 3 of those turnovers were the result of the Defense. The INT and then two of the fumbles. Defensive pressure can throw off the timing which happened on the quick pitch as well as the end zone fumble.
 
I can't figure out how some people can't understand that 3 of those turnovers were the result of the Defense. The INT and then two of the fumbles. Defensive pressure can throw off the timing which happened on the quick pitch as well as the end zone fumble.
The interception is the only one I’ll give credit to ND although ND deserves some small credit for making the recoveries. ND got Navy to fourth down, the QB throws it up, everyone is covered, and Moore makes a nice catch. Good job.

The fumbled pitch hit the FB in the chest. That needs to be caught every time. It’s not like a defender was about to light him up. He just dropped it.

The QB fumbled the ball after the mesh with the FB. They run that play frequently. There was no pressure on the QB. It doesn’t even matter if there was. He should still be able to execute and that’s the design of the offense. All on Navy.

The ball slipped out of the QB’s hands on the fumble recovered in the endzone. QB’s frequently throw the ball with rushers around them. No way would I be crediting the opposing defense if Leonard fumbled like that. You throw the ball or tuck it and run. If you get stripped from behind, then I give some or a lot of credit to the defense.

Two muffed punts. All on Navy. There were other mistakes too that cost Navy.

Of course ND doesn’t need to apologize.
 
The RB was literally trying to cut as he got the ball because a defender was right there. That caused him to fumble just like when a WR runs before he catches the ball causing him to drop it.
 
The RB was literally trying to cut as he got the ball because a defender was right there. That caused him to fumble just like when a WR runs before he catches the ball causing him to drop it.
The closest defender is six yards away. Everyone was blocked up. The back took his eyes off the ball it appears and wasn’t even trying to make a cut. Even if he was trying to make a cut, it’s still his fault for not making the catch.

Even if there was pressure, that would still be Navy’s fault for not blocking the play correctly.
 
I'm looking at it right now. Junior is going to tackle him for a loss. He has 69 shoulders turned and is already going second level. RB eyes are upfield as he
is receiving what is not a great pitch.
 
The next fumble by the QB is absolutely him pressing. He pulled the ball late off the read. And part of that is because Junior absolutely collapsed the D gap forcing the FB to change laterally off bend dive.
 
I'm looking at it right now. Junior is going to tackle him for a loss. He has 69 shoulders turned and is already going second level. RB eyes are upfield as he
is receiving what is not a great pitch.
No matter what would have happened after, Tuihalamaka is 5-6 yards away. He’s not even charging directly at him from the outside or straight on. The ball has to be caught for a loss. It should be Navy ball 2nd and 8 to 12 yards to go instead it’s ND ball on the Navy 7.
The next fumble by the QB is absolutely him pressing. He pulled the ball late off the read. And part of that is because Junior absolutely collapsed the D gap forcing the FB to change laterally off bend dive.
Disagree. All of the academies are fully equipped to handle whatever the defense throws at them. That’s why they’re running triple and all part of the plan. That wasn’t even a stressful situation for the QB. Even if he was about to get popped by the DE, it’s still his responsibility to get the ball to the back or keep it. He just messed up.
 
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I can't figure out how some people can't understand that 3 of those turnovers were the result of the Defense. The INT and then two of the fumbles. Defensive pressure can throw off the timing which happened on the quick pitch as well as the end zone fumble.
Oh I'm with ya...but.....
we didn't cause Navy to have 6 turnovers. Maybe 1 or 2 but most were self inflicted sloppy foitball on Navy's part.

What i can't understand is people look at a game result and then suddenly get amnesia of the previous week(s) results or only use previous results for a narrative.
Is Navy really as bad as they played against us? Are we really as good as we looked against them?
NIU would like to have a word about that. The same NIU team now 4-4 who has lost to...
Buffalo, Toledo, N.C. State, Ball State...

We got a pile of breaks in the Navy game. It would've been nice to have got a couple of them against NIU but that wasn't to be.

P.s.
Another example why I made this thread about the ignorant polls...
We jumped 4 spots In the latest poll.
I think the writers were ignoring us as we either were stagnate or even dropped a spot after the two previous solid victories over GaTech and Stanford.
Navy had a bad game, we had a good one. Suddenly they bump us 4 spots....
And give Navy the boot from the 25.
If tjqt victory was so impressive Navy should still be ranked. If Navy us really that bad...then we shouldn't have moved at all...as in trying to keep sense of the prevuous two solid victory ranking stagnation and or drop a spot.

Echoing again....if the polls weren't a sham then Boise State should be ranked a few points above OSU. Identical records, identical results @ Oregon... but BSU's last game was a close victory against a 6-1 (at the time) UNLV team.
OSU's was a close victory against a pedestrian Nebraska team. Many feel Nebraska should've won that.

Yet we have OSU continue on at #4 enjoying the trendy reputation and special elite club status and BSU doesn't.
 
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