Tried to Tell Everyone...We'll have an OPEN COMPETITION at QB

[cgvr]

It must really burn you that after all this biased blathering.....you're still competely wrong

Does it irk you that all of Kelly, Sanford, and Kizer have come out and publicly said that it will be an open QB competition for all of Spring, Summer, and Fall.....and that it's so open it's on their minds before the bowl game?

Does it bother you knowing that your analysis is so insanely biased and incorrect....and that literally everything you have said on this topic is incorrect and everything I've said has been completely validated by the coaches and players

I know that kind of pathetic failure would bother me

What's pathetic is the fact that you believe this to be some sort of new revelation. Wow, guys are going to compete for the starting job.

Perhaps this is an indictment, by you, of the way things have been handled in the past.

Would you care to share how past starting positions have been determined under the kelly regime?

I'll await your "sage" response.

 

[TheDecker]

at this time what do you think sanford would say ? my goodness are you naive ! are you that determined to somehow try to prove you're right and others are wrong ? geez grow a pair. it's bowl preparation time. no one is going to say anything that might cause an issue.

They brought it up completely on their own
The fact that they brought this up during bowl preparation time just shows how completely open this competition is

There is no reason they had to comment on this at all. They could have just said "we'll worry about next season after the bowl game".....but they didn't

I love how totally backwards you get things

 

[echowaker]

Good to see you back to your old ways

Denying statements from Kelly, Sanford, and Kizer and making things up that I never said



@mh2365

Time to take your medicine

You were wrong...again....(shocking no one) and no you want to just deny, deny, deny



Kizer will not walk into a starting job in the spring, nor in hte summer, nor even in the fall

Kizer will have to beat Zaire is an open QB competition through the off-season to get the starting job in 2016......and he knows it. Not only have the coaches said as much, but Kizer has as well.

Time to just admit you were totally incorrect (again), ran your mouth inappropriately, and are going to quietly exit the discussion



You literally have no legs left to stand on

anyone that takes anything said about the 2016 season at this time as gospel is just silly.

 

[TheDecker]

What's pathetic is the fact that you believe this to be some sort of new revelation. Wow, guys are going to compete for the starting job.

Perhaps this is an indictment, by you, of the way things have been handled in the past.

Would you care to share how past starting positions have been determined under the kelly regime?

I'll await your "sage" response.

???

I can't figure out if your stupid or if I'm just getting trolled super hard

Some positions are held by an incumbent who's an established starter and has separated himself from all possible competition. Those players have the job heading into the following season, unless they do something to lose it

Some positions are open as no player has yet done enough to separate themselves from all challengers. Those positions/players face an open competition in the off season

For 2016, our QB position will fall into the latter group

Is this hard to understand for you?

 

[TheDecker]

They brought it up completely on their own
The fact that they brought this up during bowl preparation time just shows how completely open this competition is

There is no reason they had to comment on this at all. They could have just said "we'll worry about next season after the bowl game".....but they didn't

I love how totally backwards you get things

I love it

"I don't care if everyone associated with the program or position says that I'm completely, 100% wrong.....THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!"

Keep this crap coming!

 

[echowaker]

They brought it up completely on their own
The fact that they brought this up during bowl preparation time just shows how completely open this competition is

There is no reason they had to comment on this at all. They could have just said "we'll worry about next season after the bowl game".....but they didn't

I love how totally backwards you get things

how do you know they brought it up on their own ? were you there ? i've lived it as a player. i know how it works. you ? take your quotes to the grave as gospel. enjoy.

 

[echowaker]

???

I can't figure out if your stupid or if I'm just getting trolled super hard

Some positions are held by an incumbent who's an established starter and has separated himself from all possible competition. Those players have the job heading into the following season, unless they do something to lose it

Some positions are open as no player has yet done enough to separate themselves from all challengers. Those positions/players face an open competition in the off season

For 2016, our QB position will fall into the latter group

Is this hard to understand for you?

because you say so hardly makes it so. kizer is as firmly entrenched as will fuller. mark my words.

 

[echowaker]

I love it

"I don't care if everyone associated with the program or position says that I'm completely, 100% wrong.....THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!"

Keep this crap coming!

wow, responding to yourself. kinda creepy.

 

[TheDecker]

how do you know they brought it up on their own ? were you there ? i've lived it as a player. i know how it works. you ? take your quotes to the grave as gospel. enjoy.

Because the writer of the article, a mod for this site, literally said as much

Please tell me your not actually this dumb, and it's just some kind of an act??

 

[TheDecker]

because you say so hardly makes it so. kizer is as firmly entrenched as will fuller. mark my words.

It's not me saying it, it's
Brian Kelly
Mike Sanford
Deshone Kizer

So no, no he's not

But thanks for making up more random crap
I especially like how you double down on your crap, after getting called out on it being publicly debunked

You may not have any brains, but at least you've got some balls

 

[cgvr]

???

I can't figure out if your stupid or if I'm just getting trolled super hard

Some positions are held by an incumbent who's an established starter and has separated himself from all possible competition. Those players have the job heading into the following season, unless they do something to lose it

Some positions are open as no player has yet done enough to separate themselves from all challengers. Those positions/players face an open competition in the off season

For 2016, our QB position will fall into the latter group

Is this hard to understand for you?

Wrong. Every position is open for possible change. Nothing is given at any level. (Unless you're the coaches son or some other "political" stupid crap...)

Do you even know how recruits are pitched by current/past ND recruiters? Part of the pitch is that they will be able to compete for the starting job regardless of who is ahead of them. Or, is the staff lying about that?

You are really really stupid.

Every year there are no guarantees at any position until the performance warrants it. Sadly, in the case of Zaire and according to him he was not given a fair shake by kelly. (that falls under other stupid crap)

Here's what you sound like:

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[mbd11]

Zaire's sample size of 3 games (2 full games and 2 halves) really isn't enough to make a determination IMO, on whether he'd be a great QB or not. Against LSU, he was alternating with Golson, and the Texas game was such a blowout that he didn't really have to break much of a sweat. Against Virginia, he wasn't playing all that well before getting hurt. So just not enough of a sample size either way.

But we know what we have with Kizer at this point. He's got all the skills that an FBS QB needs, great leadership, and seems unflappable under pressure. So I'd go with him, although I can see how this will be a delicate situation for Kelly to handle, with 3 talented QBs who all have plenty of eligibility remaining, on the roster.

But I wouldn't be surprised if someone transfers out after spring ball.

 

[echowaker]

Because the writer of the article, a mod for this site, literally said as much

Please tell me your not actually this dumb, and it's just some kind of an act??

you do understand that folks getting interviewed at this level either in print or audio/video are generally prepped on what the subject matter will be. you act like kelly and co. called a press conference to announce the workings of spring football 2016. you are amusing i'll give you that. you take gullible to a new level.

 

[mh2365]

Decker is such a midget fool ... now he never said Golson would win a Heisman at Notre Dame ... he is a joke ... he won't show his face over on Rockne's Roundtable because he gets laughed out of the place or banned everytime he shows up over there ... he was so completely wrong on Golson and now that Golson is gone he shows back up acting like he never said anything about him being the greatest QB in Notre Dame history ... such a little tiny tiny tiny punk

 

[echowaker]

Zaire's sample size of 3 games (2 full games and 2 halves) really isn't enough to make a determination IMO, on whether he'd be a great QB or not. Against LSU, he was alternating with Golson, and the Texas game was such a blowout that he didn't really have to break much of a sweat. Against Virginia, he wasn't playing well in the 1st half before getting hurt. So just not enough of a sample size either way.

But we know what we have with Kizer at this point. He's got all the skills that an FBS QB needs, great leadership, and seems unflappable under pressure. So I'd go with him, although I can see how this will be a delicate situation for Kelly to handle, with 3 talented QBs who all have plenty of eligibility remaining, on the roster.

But I wouldn't be surprised if someone transfers out after spring ball.

exactly and kelly HAS to say the right things to try and pacify all involved. coachspeak, nothing more.

 

[TheDecker]

Wrong. Every position is open for possible change. Nothing is given at any level. (Unless you're the coaches son or some other "political" stupid crap...)

Do you even know how recruits are pitched by current/past ND recruiters? Part of the pitch is that they will be able to compete for the starting job regardless of who is ahead of them. Or, is the staff lying about that?

You are really really stupid.

Every year there are no guarantees at any position until the performance warrants it. Sadly, in the case of Zaire and according to him he was not given a fair shake by kelly. (that falls under other stupid crap)

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This is 100% wrong

Some players enter camp having won the starting job already
They could always lose the job, but it's theirs to lose

That's not the case at QB for ND in 2016, where the position is completely open for competition. There is no assumed starter already in place

Is this your first time following football??

 

[TheDecker]

Zaire's sample size of 3 games (2 full games and 2 halves) really isn't enough to make a determination IMO, on whether he'd be a great QB or not. Against LSU, he was alternating with Golson, and the Texas game was such a blowout that he didn't really have to break much of a sweat. Against Virginia, he wasn't playing that well before getting hurt. So just not enough of a sample size either way.

But we know what we have with Kizer at this point. He's got all the skills that an FBS QB needs, great leadership, and seems unflappable under pressure. So I'd go with him, although I can see how this will be a delicate situation for Kelly to handle, with 3 talented QBs who all have plenty of eligibility remaining, on the roster.

But I wouldn't be surprised if someone transfers out after spring ball.

Zaire's sample size was more than enough to see that he can be the QB for Notre Dame, and that he's absolutely too talented and too game ready to just put on the bench

His lack of sample size (or experience) could be one of the reasons that he loses the QB competition.......but what he's already shown is one of the reasons that there will be an open QB competition

Anyone could win it, but Kizer and Zaire have both forced an open competition

 

[TheDecker]

you do understand that folks getting interviewed at this level either in print or audio/video are generally prepped on what the subject matter will be. you act like kelly and co. called a press conference to announce the workings of spring football 2016. you are amusing i'll give you that. you take gullible to a new level.

Watching your pathetic levels of denial is making an otherwise standard day pretty funny

Don't worry, me reminding you how terribly, pathetically wrong you were this entire time won't be limited to this thread

I'll be back to remind you what an idiot you were throughout the QB competition

I'm looking forward to your future denials. I'm hoping you can get creative enough to deny that something currently happening and being reported on doesn't actually exist.
Start thinking now!!

 

[TheDecker]

Decker is such a midget fool ... now he never said Golson would win a Heisman at Notre Dame ... he is a joke ... he won't show his face over on Rockne's Roundtable because he gets laughed out of the place or banned everytime he shows up over there ... he was so completely wrong on Golson and now that Golson is gone he shows back up acting like he never said anything about him being the greatest QB in Notre Dame history ... such a little tiny tiny tiny punk

???

I was in a thread there just a bit ago, since someone wondered if I was still around

I post less now...because I have a job





But I love how you don't want to talk about the topic at hand (how you were 100% wrong about there not being a QB competition) but instead want to make up random sh*t (I never said that Golson would win the Heisman, only that he'd be a conteder for it...which he was!) and not address hwo wrong you were about even those topics (remember when you said Golson's style of QB was "Game Manager"......man, was that good for some laughs!!)



Don't worry MH, you know I'll always be around to remind you how idiotically wrong you are about literally everything

 

[TheDecker]

exactly and kelly HAS to say the right things to try and pacify all involved. coachspeak, nothing more.

Hell, Kelly didn't even have to comment on it at all. He could have just said "We'll talk about 2016 after the bowl game"
Neither did Sanford have to comment on it
Or Kizer

But they all already told you your 100% wrong and a complete moron




These denials are great though

"Yeah, the coaches and the players are openly saying we're wrong. Yeah, they're saying it totally voluntarily. Yeah, it's being publicly report......but it doesn't count though!!"




I'm really looking forward to how increasingly idiotic these denials get throughout the QB competition!!

 

[echowaker]

This is 100% wrong

Some players enter camp having won the starting job already
They could always lose the job, but it's theirs to lose

That's not the case at QB for ND in 2016, where the position is completely open for competition. There is no assumed starter already in place

Is this your first time following football??

"completely open " . okay. do you purchase oceanfront property in iowa also ? how'd that wire transfer from the first republic bank of nigeria go ?

 

[echowaker]

Watching your pathetic levels of denial is making an otherwise standard day pretty funny

Don't worry, me reminding you how terribly, pathetically wrong you were this entire time won't be limited to this thread

I'll be back to remind you what an idiot you were throughout the QB competition

I'm looking forward to your future denials. I'm hoping you can get creative enough to deny that something currently happening and being reported on doesn't actually exist.
Start thinking now!!

no one said the comments didn't exist. understanding the comments in the time frame they were made is what you can't grasp. now is not the time for issues within the program. it's kumbaya time. keep hanging your hat on them though.

 

[echowaker]

until all qbs get equal reps with the 1's will it be a truly open competition. don't see that at all. there is a pecking order.

 

[TheDecker]

"completely open " . okay. do you purchase oceanfront property in iowa also ? how'd that wire transfer from the first republic bank of nigeria go ?

Typical response from someone who's argument has been completely debunk, the debunking has been publicly reported and linked, and he has nothing left to defend himself

Sorry little buddy

 

[TheDecker]

until all qbs get equal reps with the 1's will it be a truly open competition. don't see that at all. there is a pecking order.

So when you hear this spring about how Zaire and Kizer are splitting reps with the 1's, that's when you'll finally realize how insanely idiotic you've been with this?

Wow, it really takes you a long time to catch on to what's happening, doesn't it??

 

[cgvr]

wow, responding to yourself. kinda creepy.

It's hilarious....

 

[cgvr]

This is 100% wrong

Some players enter camp having won the starting job already
They could always lose the job, but it's theirs to lose

That's not the case at QB for ND in 2016, where the position is completely open for competition. There is no assumed starter already in place

Is this your first time following football??

You are a living breathing contradiction.

"Some positions are held by an incumbent who's an established starter and has separated himself from all possible competition." "Separated himself from all possible competition?" Huh, the staff has no idea which incoming FR will step up or how well guys have trained in the off season? The depth chart is fluid and there are no guarantees.

Every position is open to competition. You're running around here like chicken little.

"The quarterback position is open to competition. The quarterback position is open to competition. The quarterback position is open to competition. Sanford, kelly and Kizer said so.... Sanford, kelly and Kizer said so.... Sanford, kelly and Kizer said so...."

whoopdy darn do...... You are a putz.

 

[TheDecker]

You are a living breathing contradiction.

"Some positions are held by an incumbent who's an established starter and has separated himself from all possible competition." "Separated himself from all possible competition?" Huh, the staff has no idea which incoming FR will step up or how well guys have trained in the off season? The depth chart is fluid and there are no guarantees.

Every position is open to competition. You're running around here like chicken little.

"The quarterback position is open to competition. The quarterback position is open to competition. The quarterback position is open to competition. Sanford, kelly and Kizer said so.... Sanford, kelly and Kizer said so.... Sanford, kelly and Kizer said so...."

whoopdy darn do...... You are a putz.

No, I'm not at all

But you seem to have reading comprehension issue.....major ones

Not every position is an "open competition". Some guys have locked down the starting job at their position

QB for ND in 2016 is not one of those cases

Pretty simple

 

[cgvr]

No, I'm not at all

But you seem to have reading comprehension issue.....major ones

Not every position is an "open competition". Some guys have locked down the starting job at their position

QB for ND in 2016 is not one of those cases

Pretty simple

Keep plumbing new depths of stupidity.

"Not every position is an "open competition". Some guys have locked down the starting job at their position."

Wrong at every level of football camp... You are just dumb.

 

[TheDecker]

Keep plumbing new depths of stupidity.

"Not every position is an "open competition". Some guys have locked down the starting job at their position."

Wrong at every level of football camp... You are just dumb.

It's not wrong at all, and anyone who knows anything about football knows that

Anyone can lose their job, but some guys come into the off-season with the starting job already in hand and would actually have to do something to lose it
Other step into an open competition and have to win the job over other candidates who are on equal footing with them at the jump

The 2016 QB job at ND will be the 2nd one

You'll come to understand this as you follow football for than a couple days

 

[Irish Grandeur]

I am beginning to wonder if 'TheDecker' is MZ's mom. ND has a QB and his name is Deshone Kizer.

Don't get me wrong, Zaire has a place on ND's team in 2016 - it's just not the starting QB slot. I view these two as totally different - DK is a passing QB that can run, and MZ is a running QB that can pass. I will take the passing QB that can run all day long.

 

[cgvr]

It's not wrong at all, and anyone who knows anything about football knows that

Anyone can lose their job, but some guys come into the off-season with the starting job already in hand and would actually have to do something to lose it
Other step into an open competition and have to win the job over other candidates who are on equal footing with them at the jump

The 2016 QB job at ND will be the 2nd one

You'll come to understand this as you follow football for than a couple days

Yeah, and some day you will understand the fluid nature of a depth chart. You should just put a cork in it.....

"Everybody, there's going to be an open qb competition! Can you believe it?"

What a tool bag....

 

[greengael]

Do you" gentlemen" have a wager as to how long you can keep talking past each other while responding to your own posts?I would suggest you call it a tie, agree to disagree and put this thread to a merciful end.[but that's just me of course. smile]

 

[TheDecker]

Yeah, and some day you will understand the fluid nature of a depth chart. You should just put a cork in it.....

"Everybody, there's going to be an open qb competition! Can you believe it?"

What a tool bag....

The best part of all your idiocy here is......you're actually on the polar opposite side of an argument than almost everyone else in this thread
This whole board is over the opinion there won't be any QB competition at all



Good luck learning about some basics in the near future, you have a LONG way to go

You might want to start by reading a depth chart this spring and noting how some positions have an "OR" listed on them right from the get go and others have an entrenched starter (who would actually have to lose the starting position)

 

[88ND]

Decker..

You act like people here are wishing ill fate on Zaire. That is the most ridiculous part of your little told you so rant.

Moreover I'm not sure why this even needed it's own thread let alone 3 God Damn pages worth.

Every position is earned on the team. To the extent of coaching staff. They may be wrong in their decision on who, but it's a decision none the less based on reward in the opinion is said decision maker.

This even being brought up is a product of the media needing another story because just how very well Kizer did and what happens going forward.
I believe they answered the question properly given Malik won the job then lost it based on injury not play.

Having said that what has shown up since is a wonderful surprise in Kizer. Some folks at times this year on espn were even saying he was playing the best QB of anyone in the nation.
So yes it's a story with teeth this time of year....because there are no dui's, sexual assaults, cheating, goofy Twitter comments etc, by either squad that gives the media something to discuss.

Personally I think the whole situation is a mess because the eligibility isn't staggered enough. Someone is changing position or transferring. These players at this level at this school all have the Sunday dream. You can't realize that dream by never getting a chance to play.

 

[cgvr]

The best part of all your idiocy here is......you're actually on the polar opposite side of an argument than almost everyone else in this thread
This whole board is over the opinion there won't be any QB competition at all



Good luck learning about some basics in the near future, you have a LONG way to go

You might want to start by reading a depth chart this spring and noting how some positions have an "OR" listed on them right from the get go and others have an entrenched starter (who would actually have to lose the starting position)

First off, let me be real clear. You are just plain dumb.
Your announcement combined with your histrionics prove that.
"Everybody, there's going to be a qb competition!!!!!! Yippeeeeeee!!!!!"
There are no guaranteed starters at any level unless a coach has an unproductive agenda.
I guarantee you attend no hs, college or NFL off season private workouts. What do you think the "non-starter" athletes are trying to accomplish? Would their off season gains go unnoticed?
Any HC worth his salt makes players work to start....nothing is a given.
Again, you are one of the more dopey posters I have witnessed.
You are incapable of common sense.

 

[john0gaunt]

Of course, any football fan knows there are plenty of QB's that have earned their jobs and they are basically the returning starter. Guys like Brady Q, Jimmy C, and Ron P were the starting QB's at ND going into camp. There was no open competition. Some of the posters above about all jobs being open competition are hallucinating.

It's just been a while since we have had an entrenched starter who could stay healthy. I hope it's Kizer but who knows. There was a reason MZ was the starter after EG left. There was no doubt he was the better QB then. Not sure much has changed since then.

And BW is a stud.

The first try out is definitely Friday. Kizer can win some points for himself if he wins.

 

[cgvr]

Of course, any football fan knows there are plenty of QB's that have earned their jobs and they are basically the returning starter. Guys like Brady Q, Jimmy C, and Ron P were the starting QB's at ND going into camp. There was no open competition. Some of the posters above about all jobs being open competition are hallucinating.

It's just been a while since we have had an entrenched starter who could stay healthy. I hope it's Kizer but who knows. There was a reason MZ was the starter after EG left. There was no doubt he was the better QB then. Not sure much has changed since then.

And BW is a stud.

The first try out is definitely Friday. Kizer can win some points for himself if he wins.

Guys keep their starting jobs because they are better players. Nothing is given unless a head coach plays favorites or has some other agenda.
Factoid: Sanchez transferred from RSM because he was saddled behind a dope whose father wrote the school a huge check..... had he not left no southern cal scholarship, no NFL, no millions.....

 

[Bodizephax]

Guys keep their starting jobs because they are better players. Nothing is given unless a head coach plays favorites or has some other agenda.
Factoid: Sanchez transferred from RSM because he was saddled behind a dope whose father wrote the school a huge check..... had he not left no southern cal scholarship, no NFL, no millions.....

No butt fumble.

 

[cgvr]

No butt fumble.

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Listen up you. I'm guessing you have 4 years of eligibility left. Get your SAT's in order and I'll help you get in ND.

We'll get you in the middle of the QB competition for next year.

Actually, maybe you can fill Jaylon's shoes.

Here's your post Stanford game highlight tape.....