I believe Minchey or Angeli, maybe both transfer out if neither get the starting gig.
OK, how do we look for next year?
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I think this is a good point. I believe Angeli can win the starting job next year but it’s hard to beat elite teams with an immobile QB without top tier receivers. Even Burrow at LSU was more mobile than Angeli is currently.
I’ll be interested to watch spring ball and see what QB separates themselves. I’m hoping it’s a more mobile QB on the roster but if it’s Angeli so be it. Whoever wins the job deserves it.
We’re going to have to make a major hire at DC if the Golden to Bengals rumors turn out to be true (which sounds like they are.)
If Golden leaves I believe Mike Mickens gets the job if he wants it.
I don’t necessarily hate it but just because he’s a great position coach, doesn’t mean he can scheme an entire defense. I simply don’t know if he has that in his repertoire. If he does, awesome and hire him, if not, get a solid proven DC.
Thankfully we have a defensive coach who was a successful DC and should be able to analyze if Mickens can do the job.
eminem is a singer who never played any sports so why you think that means anything is a mystery. The way Freeman is recruiting we will have the talent and he has shown he is the coach. Pretty dumb to think otherwise.
and in the end it was his failure as a passer that doomed us.
Huh ? In the list of reasons of why ND lost last night Leonard's passing ability is well down that list. The inability to get OSU off the field on third down was by a wide, wide margin the biggest cause for the defeat. That and the fact that the opponent was the better team.
Really? That's a good way to keep all three QBs interested, huh, so none of them transfer in the spring portal. I've heard that little budding narrative from time to time, from fans, and like, the local ND beat pundits. Should we bring another portal QB? No! We got three good ones on the roster, but it's gonna take all off season to decide on the starter, so we don't even need an emergency transfer QB in the very possible event one or even two of the incumbents enters the spring portal when they don't win the job. Because we know already that the succession to RL won't be settled by the spring. Not even by the summer.
I just don't know if that's going to work. It could be a little transparent. These guys have their future to think of, and the portal is just sitting right there. Certainly for Angeli. He's not a bad QB, he could start for certain at a G5 school, and maybe be the front-runner at a lesser P4 program. But if Carr really is going to be the guy, and it's a fait accompli, I don't know if you're going to be able to lead the other two down the garden path. And we all remember how well that went for BK with Kizer/Zaire, as a recent precedent for an unnecessary and self-destructive QB controversy.
There was no way Angeli was going to start this year with a young, inexperienced line. Bad fit as run blocking always matures first with young players. They needed a mobile QB. Now this coming season I think he has a legitimate opportunity. A now extremely talented o line where at least 4 of the presumed starters have extensive game experience. He absolutely must improve his pocket awareness though. He can't be a statue back there. He has to display the ability to move around enough to create time when need be.
I just think it may take that long for one of them to separate themselves. Personally I think they can be just as successful with any of them. Elite level o line and running back room gives any QB better opportunities for success.
I just get the feeling it's going to be Carr. He's too good, he's too advanced and precocious, and ready to go as a RS frosh. Angeli is good but he's not a championship QB. And my personal favorite Minchey is very gifted with great arm talent, but just too raw or something, and bottom line CJ Carr is going to be the guy. And that's fantastic, he could be a three year starter, and a worthy playoff-caliber QB, and the sooner he gets established and confident and in the flow, as the presumptive starter, or I guess the official starter the better. And that could very well spell transfers for the other two.
But maybe not, they're getting paid, ND's a nice place to be, and maybe they'll stay regardless. You're just one injury away from the job yourself, right? But don't play games with them is all I'm saying. The mojo is really good with MF right now, something like that could spoil it. It was a disaster for BK, and there's no way we go 4-8 if he had had some balls and formally named Kizer as the obvious starter after spring, and likely lose Zaire to a transfer in the bargain. That was the only time I was really disappointed in BK. Whatever his reasons were, you gotta step up and show leadership, and name your starting QB. You don't string that shit out for no good reason, or whatever your ulterior motive is.
a better passing game might have won it despite everything else. That is reality.
Exactly. The defense carried this team all year. When the offense needed to finally step up and put some points on the board, they couldn't do it.
I guess if he would have thrown for 450 yards and 5 touchdowns you'd be correct. Not realistic but correct.
Nonsense. They are not built to win a shoot out. They don't have the necessary pieces for that. To think otherwise is silly. The better team won.
Well, we're going to have a passing offense next year, so a better passing game is definitely in the cards. Even though RL wasn't too bad, they just kept it simple for him. So much so that you almost feel like maybe you don't even know what he's capable of. Maybe they babied him too much as a passer. But overall we made the championship game, and dual threat QBs are awesome. Not everyone can be that kid Jayden....
We couldn't stop them all night until they decided to run clock. They were just better
It is what it is. We didn't let them embarass us and made it close.
It is what it is. We didn't let them embarass us and made it close.
The one play that puzzled me was when OSU was in the red zone and Gray was jumping up and down pointing at Smith. The ball gets snapped and Gray just left him. I get each player has to be on position, however if you see that a WR is going to be left alone when the ball is snapped, common sense would dictate I'm the closest to said WR, I'll just cover him.
OSU would have probably scored anyway, but that play just puzzled me.
OSU would have probably scored anyway, but that play just puzzled me.
They did. Against the best defense in the country they did not. You think it's that simple against quality opponents ? ND had a complimentary passing game this past season. It's not the strength of their team. It was good enough to help them get to the championship ship game. No chance you beat that opponent dropping back 40 times. Ohio St won the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That's why ND lost. The rest is crap.
we got very close but you claim it would not have mattered, doubling down on dumb
we were within one TD with time left. the claim a batter passing ability would not have made a difference IS CRAP.
Gray was jumping up and down because in the defense that was called because it didn't appear anyone was responsible for Smith in that defensive set. At the snap Gray did what he was required to do given the call. You under no circumstances free lance on either side of the ball. You do YOUR job. It's like when a blitzer runs right by a offensive lineman. If it's not his responsibility in the protection called you let him go. It's someone elses responsibility. Should have just called a timeout. That's on the booth too.
I get that, and understand you do your job, but in a game that big, I'm surprised he didn't call the timeout.
Very close ? You got close because the passing game was productive. All the passing in the world was not getting OSU off the field on 4 straight long drives. I'm sorry if you don't understand the difference. ND didn't get nearly enough possessions because of it.
For sure. I actually blame the guys in the booth way more than Gray.
OSU most likely would have scored anyway, but hate to see them give up an easy one like that
Explain. They only got close because of the production from the passing game. Better how ? They didn't have enough possessions in the first half.
No not at all. His passing got us into the game and he played probably better than anyone on the team outside Greathouse
The offense played well most of the year. The offense played better than the D last night.
The defense was the problem yesterday not the offense
