First let me say that as a longtime ND fan,I was discouraged by this teams lousy performance . The players had no want-to and their talent level is to me,in doubt. I think Van Gorder,for whatever reason,just didn.t get the job done. Now to the infamous Kelly presser- Perse and cvgr etc.etc., evidently didn't hear Kelly say clearly,that he and the other coaches are as much to blame as the players!! He clearly stated that he and the other coaches are 1 and 3 coaches and the problems are from top to bottom! Just because you hate Kelly, you don't hear what you don't want to hear. ND has some talented players,we all know who they are,but as a group,they are not a great bunch by any stretch. You Kelly haters just love your hate,regardless of the facts. If you haters think that all these players need is a better head coach,then you didn't watch the same game sat., that I did! Duke was quicker, smarter with the ball, poised in a hostile stadium, tougher and on and on ! They just straight up outplayed the Irish,and it's not all on the head coach. To say he didn't take any responsibility, is just an excuse for Perse and company to express their hate for Kelly,which shows their childish mindsets. One last thing about our talent level-- When Duke receivers deke and run right by our best corner,Cole Luke, what does that tell you about our roster!