LSU's 2025 Recruiting Class is why Brian Kelly left Notre Dame

[chaseball]

They got three composite 5 star guys signed in the 2025 class (including the composite #1 QB & #1 WR & #1 RB prospect in the country)

We all know that ND is allergic to the highest tier of prospects which is why Brian Kelly doesn't coach at ND anymore. When BK said he left ND to LSU because of "aligned vision" with LSUs administrators this is what he meant. The ability to actually level the playing field and sign and compete for the best talent in the country.

Brian Kelly with this elite level of talent is going to be hard to beat. It isn't happening by accident either. Kelly has been revamping his coaching staff with guys that are overachievers on the recruiting trail.

LSU 2025 Football Commits

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[Golson5]

They got three composite 5 star guys signed in the 2025 class (including the composite #1 QB & #1 WR prospect in the country)

We all know that ND is allergic to the highest tier of prospects which is why Brian Kelly doesn't coach at ND anymore.

Brian Kelly with this elite level of talent is going to be hard to beat. It isn't happening by accident either. Kelly has been revamping his coaching staff with guys that are overachievers on the recruiting trail.

This made me laugh

 

[francade]

LSU site is only a few keystrokes away. Please, feel free.

 

[chaseball]

LSU national title incoming in 3, 2, 1 ...

But ND will be 10-2 or 9-3 with big program defining wins over ACC trash like Louisville and FSU lol

 

[Golson5]

LSU national title incoming in 3, 2, 1 ...

But ND will be 10-2 or 9-3 with big program defining wins over ACC trash like Louisville and FSU lol

Bet on it......

 

[NDinNJ]

LSU national title incoming in 3, 2, 1 ...

But ND will be 10-2 or 9-3 with big program defining wins over ACC trash like Louisville and FSU lol

lol you are a fool. Again I ask, why are you a Notre Dame fan? You disparage the school and the program ad nauseam. If you don't like it leave, or better yet if you really care, take it up with the people that can change things, instead of constantly denigrating the school and administration.

 

[NDinNJ]

Bet on it......

I'll put up 5k that LSU does not win a NC while Kelly is HC there. Chase, what do you say? You willing to put up or shut the f*ck up?

 

[BGI User 756]

They got three composite 5 star guys signed in the 2025 class (including the composite #1 QB & #1 WR & #1 RB prospect in the country)

We all know that ND is allergic to the highest tier of prospects which is why Brian Kelly doesn't coach at ND anymore. When BK said he left ND to LSU because of "aligned vision" with LSUs administrators this is what he meant. The ability to actually level the playing field and sign and compete for the best talent in the country.

Brian Kelly with this elite level of talent is going to be hard to beat. It isn't happening by accident either. Kelly has been revamping his coaching staff with guys that are overachievers on the recruiting trail.

LSU 2025 Football Commits

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Please wipe your spooge off the keyboard.

Kelly, LSU’s 4th choice, hasn’t shown he can coach up a team beyond its talent on a consistent basis.

LSU recruiting is best described like this - it had a composite 19% graduation rate for 2017-2020 according to the Dept of Education. So he went where he doesn’t have to recruit hard and he makes a lot of money. As many have said, feel free to trot for LSU. ND won’t be recruiting players that can’t pass a govt aptitude test.

 

[BaldyNd]

Their 25 class is off to a great start. But it remains to be seen if they can finish the class well and then develop those players. Kelly’s first two seasons have been good but not great. Saban year 2 >>> Kelly in year 2. If I had to guess, I agree they probably win a title before ND. But I would also not be surprised to see them underachieve like Texas am and his trajectory ending up like Jimbo.

 

[NDinNJ]

They got three composite 5 star guys signed in the 2025 class (including the composite #1 QB & #1 WR & #1 RB prospect in the country)

We all know that ND is allergic to the highest tier of prospects which is why Brian Kelly doesn't coach at ND anymore. When BK said he left ND to LSU because of "aligned vision" with LSUs administrators this is what he meant. The ability to actually level the playing field and sign and compete for the best talent in the country.

Brian Kelly with this elite level of talent is going to be hard to beat. It isn't happening by accident either. Kelly has been revamping his coaching staff with guys that are overachievers on the recruiting trail.

LSU 2025 Football Commits

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You do realize Notre Dame currently has the #1 composite 2025 recruiting class?

lol you are an idiot m, at least do some research before you post nonsense. what an idiot you are.

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[chaseball]

You do realize Notre Dame currently has the #1 composite 2025 recruiting class?

lol you are an idiot m, at least do some research before you post nonsense. what an idiot you are.

2025 Recruit Football Team Rankings

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It isn't about where you start, it's all about where you finish.

NDs composite recruiting class rankings the last 5 years:

2025: ? TBD
2024: #9
2023: #13
2022: #7
2021: #9
2020: #18

based on track record of NDs recruiting classes the last 5 years, they will probably finish closer to somewhere in the #7-#13 range in 2025 but still nowhere near the level needed to compete with the best teams in the country. Furthermore, there's a monstrous cliff after the first 3-5 programs have ate their filling on the latest year's crop of prospects and then they feed ND-- along with a group of like 10-15 other programs-- whatever is left.

How long do we let this slide and who is being held accountable for the results? Why isn't ND administration making significantly greater investments in the football operations to level the playing field with their peers? Anytime there's leaks about NDs staff, facilities, recruiting budget, NIL, etc. it's ALWAYS about how some other school is so far ahead. It's never ND ahead on anything it seems. Other schools have more, do greater, have better, etc. etc. etc. and it shows in the results on the field every year.

It seems like nobody really analyzes or scrutinizes these trends that reveal so much about the trajectory of a program.

 

[NDinNJ]

It isn't about where you start, it's all about where you finish.

NDs composite recruiting class rankings the last 5 years:

2025: ? TBD
2024: #9
2023: #13
2022: #7
2021: #9
2020: #18

based on track record of NDs recruiting classes the last 5 years, they will probably finish closer to somewhere in the #7-#13 range in 2025 but still nowhere near the level needed to compete with the best teams in the country. Furthermore, there's a monstrous cliff after the first 3-5 programs have ate their filling on the latest year's crop of prospects and then they feed ND-- along with a group of like 10-15 other programs-- whatever is left on the bone after they've stuffed their bellies.

How long do we let this slide and who is being held accountable for the results?

It seems like nobody really analyzes or scrutinizes these trends that reveal so much about the trajectory of a program.

Again, do your research, LSU under Kelly:
2025: TBD
2024: #7
2023: #6
2022: #12

You are a piece of sh1t. Again you fail to answer me. Why are you a Notre Dame fan? You denigrate the school and administration ad nauseam. If you truly care and want to try and change things, take it up with those that can actually change it instead of coming on a forum and spewing your crap and hatred for Notre Dame.

 

[chaseball]

Again, do your research, LSU under Kelly:
2025: TBD
2024: #7
2023: #6
2022: #12

You are a piece of sh1t. Again you fail to answer me. Why are you a Notre Dame fan? You denigrate the school and administration ad nauseam. If you truly care and want to try and change things, take it up with those that can actually change it instead of coming on a forum and spewing your crap and hatred for Notre Dame.

LSU 2025 class is on a first tier trajectory. They've got three commits from a group of the very best skill players in the entire class. When was the last time ND had three composite top 25 players signed in a single class?

The problems are clear as day, why won't they get fixed? Why is the onus put on the fans to play nice and look the other way? ND is still a revenue leader in the sport. They are getting very wealthy from their very loyal fans, why won't they match their fans enthusiasm with a football product worthy of Notre Dame?

 

[bizzybecknd]

They got three composite 5 star guys signed in the 2025 class (including the composite #1 QB & #1 WR & #1 RB prospect in the country)

We all know that ND is allergic to the highest tier of prospects which is why Brian Kelly doesn't coach at ND anymore. When BK said he left ND to LSU because of "aligned vision" with LSUs administrators this is what he meant. The ability to actually level the playing field and sign and compete for the best talent in the country.

Brian Kelly with this elite level of talent is going to be hard to beat. It isn't happening by accident either. Kelly has been revamping his coaching staff with guys that are overachievers on the recruiting trail.

LSU 2025 Football Commits

LSU

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They already signed?? Or you just off your rocker per usual? Why the hell didn’t he ever revamp His coaching staff with “recruiting ove achievers” after 12 years of shit? Maybe because the law, morals, integrity aren’t at his core, yet they’re at NDs. We don’t need more Max Redfield, Cierre Woods. Looks like BK is clamoring at the bottom yet again with his RB being charged for attempted murder. Urbans UF seems like a good place for you to root…as I recall you loved that documentary. Shameful

 

[SIhoosier26]

LSU national title incoming in 3, 2, 1 ...

But ND will be 10-2 or 9-3 with big program defining wins over ACC trash like Louisville and FSU lol

You want to bet on that? I bet Kelly never sniffs a title at LSU. If you lose you leave the board.

 

[bizzybecknd]

You want to bet on that? I bet Kelly never sniffs a title at LSU. If you lose you leave the board.

Yes. Let’s get this in motion!

 

[NDinNJ]

LSU 2025 class is on a first tier trajectory. They've got three commits from a group of the very best skill players in the entire class. When was the last time ND had three composite top 25 players signed in a single class?

The problems are clear as day, why won't they get fixed? Why is the onus put on the fans to play nice and look the other way? ND is still a revenue leader in the sport. They are getting very wealthy from their very loyal fans, why won't they match their fans enthusiasm with a football product worthy of Notre Dame?

Again just like you stated about ND. It's where you finish, and LSU hasn't finished in the top tier since Kelly has arrived.. You're a big douche. go root for another team, you clearly aren't a fan of Notre Dame.

 

[tbonesays]

So you could say LSU has killer recruiters.

 

[BGI User 756]

LSU 2025 class is on a first tier trajectory. They've got three commits from a group of the very best skill players in the entire class. When was the last time ND had three composite top 25 players signed in a single class?

The problems are clear as day, why won't they get fixed? Why is the onus put on the fans to play nice and look the other way? ND is still a revenue leader in the sport. They are getting very wealthy from their very loyal fans, why won't they match their fans enthusiasm with a football product worthy of Notre Dame?

Lol, you just said it’s not where you start, it’s where you finish….yet you are trumpeting LSU’s start and minimizing ND’s start.

EXPOSED

 

[chaseball]

Lol, you just said it’s not where you start, it’s where you finish….yet you are trumpeting LSU’s start and minimizing ND’s start.

EXPOSED

If ND had the #1 QB, WR, and RB prospect committed this early in the class it would put them on a whole other trajectory. But they got like 15 four stars committed with a 90.xx average (status quo) with zero traction with any 5 star talent in yet another recruiting cycle.

LSU has the kind of prospects committed that change the entire outlook of a program in 2025

Their 25 class is off to a great start. But it remains to be seen if they can finish the class well and then develop those players. Kelly’s first two seasons have been good but not great. Saban year 2 >>> Kelly in year 2. If I had to guess, I agree they probably win a title before ND. But I would also not be surprised to see them underachieve like Texas am and his trajectory ending up like Jimbo.

Kelly has a track record of great player development. He's never had this many elite prospects in a single class. If I'm the college football world I'm getting really worried about LSUs 2025 class

 

[tkirish]

If there was ever a time that recruiting rankings are meaningless, or at least less relevant it’s now. The transfer portal has changed everything. In two years , pick any team, ten or more players transfer out to a new school. It’s free agency. So while a team may rank 1,2 or 3 in class rankings, in a year or two that same class will probably be dismantled due to the portal.

 

[chaseball]

If there was ever a time that recruiting rankings are meaningless, or at least less relevant it’s now. The transfer portal has changed everything. In two years , pick any team, ten or more players transfer out to a new school. It’s free agency. So while a team may rank 1,2 or 3 in class rankings, in a year or two that same class will probably be dismantled due to the portal.

I think you're experiencing survivorship bias. We all hear about the prospects that are leaving but not at all about the prospects that stay and develop into top players for their respective schools.

High School recruiting is still the most impactful way to acquire talent especially the highest upside talent and HS recruiting is still the primary foundation programs are built upon.

 

[sjb75]

If there was ever a time that recruiting rankings are meaningless, or at least less relevant it’s now. The transfer portal has changed everything. In two years , pick any team, ten or more players transfer out to a new school. It’s free agency. So while a team may rank 1,2 or 3 in class rankings, in a year or two that same class will probably be dismantled due to the portal.

Wrong.

 

[1Redrum]

Brian Kelly will not even be the LSU coach after this season.

 

[burmafrd1943]

In the end talent does not matter if the HC is not good enoug
chase his balls is creaming his depends on this but he will once again taste the ashes of his feet

 

[sjb75]

Brian Kelly will not even be the LSU coach after this season.

70 million for not working?

Where do I sign up?

 

[BaldyNd]

If ND had the #1 QB, WR, and RB prospect committed this early in the class it would put them on a whole other trajectory. But they got like 15 four stars committed with a 90.xx average (status quo) with zero traction with any 5 star talent in yet another recruiting cycle.

LSU has the kind of prospects committed that change the entire outlook of a program in 2025


Kelly has a track record of great player development. He's never had this many elite prospects in a single class. If I'm the college football world I'm getting really worried about LSUs 2025 class

I would not say Kelly has a great track record of developing players. The highest rated guys we recruited at that position during his tenure often didn’t work out. We have seen schools like AM and Miami put together classes with many 5 stars and have zero succcess

 

[NDinNJ]

I think you're experiencing survivorship bias. We all hear about the prospects that are leaving but not at all about the prospects that stay and develop into top players for their respective schools.

High School recruiting is still the most impactful way to acquire talent especially the highest upside talent and HS recruiting is still the primary foundation programs are built upon.

Calling you mentally challenged is an insult to the mentally challenged.

 

[chaseball]

Brian Kelly was recruiting 13th ranked classes on aggregate and getting top 10 finishes on aggregate during the latter half of his tenure at ND. This is the best indicator of player development when you can coach up lesser ranked classes. His performance ultimately wasn't good enough at Notre Dame (especially on the rec trail) but you couldn't deny the fact that he could run a program and develop the material on the roster

He then went to LSU and developed an elite first round QB and Heisman trophy winner putting to bed this ridiculous argument of how all his QBs regress and that he can't coach quarterbacks

He followed that up with signing the #1 player and QB in the country, along with the #4, and #17 overall prospects (all on offense) in the 2025 class.

Brian Kelly with this kind of firepower is going to be really hard to beat he's never had this much material to work with ever at Notre Dame

 

[NDinNJ]

Brian Kelly was recruiting 13th ranked classes on aggregate and getting top 10 finishes on aggregate during the latter half of his tenure at ND.

He then went to LSU and developed an elite first round QB and Heisman trophy winner putting to bed this ridiculous argument of how all his QBs regress.

He followed that up with signing the #1, #4, and #17 overall prospects (all on offense) in the 2025 class.

Brian Kelly with this kind of firepower is going to be really hard to beat he's never had this much material to work with ever at Notre Dame

Again, calling you mentally challenged is an insult to the mentally challenged. He couldn't beat Bama with Bama's worst team in over a decade.

Got smoked by FSU and gave up 55 points to Ole Miss.

What good is the offense if the Defense gives up points. He's doing nothing to upgrade the defense.

If you are so enamored with LSU feel free to leave this forum and head on over there.

How's Prime going with his recruiting and all that energy you said he brought to Colorado? lol you are such a tool, your schtick is comical at this point.

 

[NDinNJ]

Brian Kelly was recruiting 13th ranked classes on aggregate and getting top 10 finishes on aggregate during the latter half of his tenure at ND. This is the best indicator of player development when you can coach up lesser ranked classes. His performance ultimately wasn't good enough at Notre Dame (especially on the rec trail) but you couldn't deny the fact that he could run a program and develop the material on the roster

He then went to LSU and developed an elite first round QB and Heisman trophy winner putting to bed this ridiculous argument of how all his QBs regress and that he can't coach quarterbacks

He followed that up with signing the #1 player and QB in the country, along with the #4, and #17 overall prospects (all on offense) in the 2025 class.

Brian Kelly with this kind of firepower is going to be really hard to beat he's never had this much material to work with ever at Notre Dame

5k says BK doesn't win a NC at LSU. You willing to take that bet? Let me know I'm serious.

 

[Golson5]

Brian Kelly was recruiting 13th ranked classes on aggregate and getting top 10 finishes on aggregate during the latter half of his tenure at ND. This is the best indicator of player development when you can coach up lesser ranked classes. His performance ultimately wasn't good enough at Notre Dame (especially on the rec trail) but you couldn't deny the fact that he could run a program and develop the material on the roster

He then went to LSU and developed an elite first round QB and Heisman trophy winner putting to bed this ridiculous argument of how all his QBs regress and that he can't coach quarterbacks

He followed that up with signing the #1 player and QB in the country, along with the #4, and #17 overall prospects (all on offense) in the 2025 class.

Brian Kelly with this kind of firepower is going to be really hard to beat he's never had this much material to work with ever at Notre Dame

Whats his record at LSU ?

 

[edub72]

Didn’t LSU just lose a player or recruit on a murder or attempted murder charge? You go BK! He wont even win a conference championship

 

[tkirish]

I think you're experiencing survivorship bias. We all hear about the prospects that are leaving but not at all about the prospects that stay and develop into top players for their respective schools.

High School recruiting is still the most impactful way to acquire talent especially the highest upside talent and HS recruiting is still the primary foundation programs are built upon.

No bias. Just stating what the reality is nowadays. I agree that recruiting is important. However , it has been diminished because many of the recruits will go to the portal by year 2 or 3 if they aren’t getting playing time. That’s already happening.

 

[d1042]

They got three composite 5 star guys signed in the 2025 class (including the composite #1 QB & #1 WR & #1 RB prospect in the country)

We all know that ND is allergic to the highest tier of prospects which is why Brian Kelly doesn't coach at ND anymore. When BK said he left ND to LSU because of "aligned vision" with LSUs administrators this is what he meant. The ability to actually level the playing field and sign and compete for the best talent in the country.

Brian Kelly with this elite level of talent is going to be hard to beat. It isn't happening by accident either. Kelly has been revamping his coaching staff with guys that are overachievers on the recruiting trail.

LSU 2025 Football Commits

LSU

247sports.com

Did you get that list at the post office?

 

[buckey]

I'll put up 5k that LSU does not win a NC while Kelly is HC there. Chase, what do you say? You willing to put up or shut the f*ck up?

I want part of that

 

[savvyandsassier]

Their 25 class is off to a great start. But it remains to be seen if they can finish the class well and then develop those players. Kelly’s first two seasons have been good but not great. Saban year 2 >>> Kelly in year 2. If I had to guess, I agree they probably win a title before ND. But I would also not be surprised to see them underachieve like Texas am and his trajectory ending up like Jimbo.

Really, you mean they actually have to sign them and have them not decommit, and then actually develop them and win real games with them? Thanks, I had no idea....

That's not the reason BK left, he left to get the hell out of ND. But that is quite a good start to next year's class...

 

[buckey]

Lsu is kind of like byu . Have to due some time first🤭🤭🤑

 

[savvyandsassier]

Brian Kelly was recruiting 13th ranked classes on aggregate and getting top 10 finishes on aggregate during the latter half of his tenure at ND. This is the best indicator of player development when you can coach up lesser ranked classes. His performance ultimately wasn't good enough at Notre Dame (especially on the rec trail) but you couldn't deny the fact that he could run a program and develop the material on the roster

He then went to LSU and developed an elite first round QB and Heisman trophy winner putting to bed this ridiculous argument of how all his QBs regress and that he can't coach quarterbacks

He followed that up with signing the #1 player and QB in the country, along with the #4, and #17 overall prospects (all on offense) in the 2025 class.

Brian Kelly with this kind of firepower is going to be really hard to beat he's never had this much material to work with ever at Notre Dame

I gotta say, that always infuriated me, even being such a devotee and votary of BK. The whole QB thing. It was seemingly just made-up gibberish, that seemingly the development and excellent career of Ian Book would put to bed. Now there's no denying it with Jayden Daniels....

 

[NIN Irish]

I gotta say, that always infuriated me, even being such a devotee and votary of BK. The whole QB thing. It was seemingly just made-up gibberish, that seemingly the development and excellent career of Ian Book would put to bed. Now there's no denying it with Jayden Daniels....

I still have my doubts.