100% correct. Years back I watched recruiting somewhat closely. Verbal commitments mean nothing. Sometimes written ones as well . I remember ND 5* DT signed LOI and wound up at UCLA. Now with all the $$$ out there. Recruiting today must be a nightmare for these coaches
Keeley decommitting today ?
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Botelho, Gobaira and Burnham is a very talented trio
There's no Foskey in there but that's a really solid trio to build with
Id say 90 percent of our commits stick with their verbal commitment to us. It's not as crazy for us as you think
Burnham and botelho I’m not sure are des naturally more out of necessity … I do think gobaira may be the next really good one
Just stinks the top two kids in class especially with our D staff and HC are the ones likely to go elsewhere…. You typically keep the crown jewel of the class, not us I guess
Burnham is going to be big and athletic when hes done growing. Botelho is a pass rusher by trade. Gobaira looks quick and athletic already. Put all 3 together and you got a talented trio for next year
these kids will be taking a pay cut to go to the NFL
Especially when you are going up against a living legend in Saban flashing National Championships, and touting everyone he's coached to the NFL.
And we got Keeley before he blew up as a prospect
Citation needed.
It may be that the verbal commitment is a bit more firm now that there is a quid pro quo. Before the athlete got nothing whatsoever for verbally committing and only a promise of an athletic scholarship for signing himself away.
Now if the kid verbals, gets an NIL in high school while mom starts a new job as creative consultant at the booster's firm; that's a deal. There will be consequences for breaking it.
It’s most likely just him maintaining relationships with guys he considered friends. But interesting none the less
Keeley is not coming to ND. Not unless we are prepared to give a TON of cash to his mom and uncle/agent, and that isn’t happening. Let this thread die alongside NDs chances to get Keeley in this class.
he's a top 10 player overall in this class Notre Dame they're super wealthy and super connected. If they want him bad enough they can make it happen
Yeah apparently we play the game of tying our hands behind our back and watching our competitors push our shit in
I dont see that happening anymore in recruiting or on the field
Actually it’s called integrity and commitment to student-athlete, 2 things most schools have sold out on
Integrity would be to help the student athlete get every penny of what they deserve. These players have been exploited without compensation for decades while bringing in millions for the universities. Not sullying their hands in NIL doesn’t make Notre Dame better than the schools that have embraced it, if anything it makes them the bad guys.
Keeley deserves what exactly? Exploited my ass, ask any ND player if they feel they’ve been exploited. Good for ND not playing this game, I’d prefer they bow out and go the Princeton route rather than the Bama route but kids have decisions to make and ND still adds value beyond bags of cash..wow what a concept.
At the end of the day, it should be up to the university to pay them or not. It should be up to the player to earn NIL if they want. Free market economics is best in basically all cases. If ND wants to profit off athletes and not drop bags, they have every right to do so. Kids have every right to go elsewhere too. Notre Dame dropped their integrity a long time ago when they stopped supporting actual Catholic values for the sake of not angering the left. But it's up to them to act however the hell they want to act.
Philosophically, yes, there is a point here but realistically, guys like Keeley or M’Pemba or other high school DEs with freak physical attributes see themselves as potential draft picks AND want to be paid before the NFL. As it’s completely normalized, it’s going to be very, very difficult to get these guys.
Was M'Pemba supposed to officially visit ND? I thought he was for some reason and must have missed when he decided no to.
Read that he was going to OV for the Clemson game but canceled. If there was no chance of getting him, then that was for the best. Supposedly he wanted NIL guarantees, which ND does not do.
You mean the other Universities are writing guaranties for whatever fly by night webpage is paying the athletes for NIL?
There's a difference between embracing and going crazy. NIL right now is going crazy. Even the NFL has a salary cap. IMO guard rails are absolutely necessary. Strict punishments for inducement for example. Not allowing anyone to have NIL the first season of attendance is another. That is a two fold guard rail. A- ends a lot of enticement. B- ends the transfer just for the sake of a better deal (Jordan Addison)
Lol
That is a bullshit take. Stupid even. Tell me what Keeley has earned on the college football field. Nothing. He has not been exploited unless you know something about his HS or elementary school days that we don’t know
Anyone trashing ND for not entering this current NIL world is either stupid or lacking integrity. This is like AAU basketball about 30 years ago. Kudos to ND to playing this game UNTIL THE PLAYER IS ON CAMPUS. then he can make the claim that he is contributing to the market from which he can get paid
