If you want to take the next step as a program, you have to win those games.
If we go 10-2 against this schedule, it'll be a pretty good year IMO. This was one of our toughest schedules in a long time. This team's probably better than the 2018 and 2020 playoff teams IMO. But hopefully we can go 10-2 and make a NY6 bowl. But it's too bad next year's playoff format didn't start this year. 10-2 would certainly be good enough for that.
If you are a BMW and lead a group of WR's that collectively resemble a Volkswagen, there is only so much the BMW can do.
Bull. He has the best rb in cfb. An elite TE. A good OL.
The multiple injuries to the starting WR corps in the Louisville game depleted a tepid WR group even more. In a word, you are disingenuous.
And giving him no blame is disingenuous.
3 point loss feels like a W compared to those 30-3 and 31-14 smack downs Book received against top competition.
True. I bet Book's opponents were better as they won the national title. The 17, 19 games against UGA are a better comparison.
This OSU team isn't as good as those teams. And our defense this year is better than those
How about the 45-14 shellacking against Michigan? That more comparable? Or another 34-10 ass kicking from Clemson in 2020? Big game Book
You're throwing a lot of guys in there
IB. 35-5 as a starter, and two 4-team CFB Playoff appearances.
I agree with you. If he had more weapons then he would actually be more explosive.
Yea lot of names/weapons- Book had a ton at his disposal.
Brady Quinn. If elite means Trevor Lawrence, Cam Newton, Jalen Hurts, ya Hartman is not them by any stretch but he’s also no Book or Coan. Clausen had elite traits but so hard to consider him elite given how bad ND teams were. I know not fair, but that’s how QBs are judged- ask Dan Marino.
Can’t imagine what Hartman would do throwing to Mike Floyd and Tate or even Boykin/Claypool. What he’s done is remarkable given a converted RB in Tyree, two true freshman, Top WR in Jayden being out half the year and an “elite “ TE according to Golson, who had 3 catches last year. Seems Elite might be thrown around a little more loose by Everett if we’re considering Evans Elite….let’s get real Evans is solid and good as you put it.. brock bowers he is not.
Hartman is a difference maker
Oh Evans is a stud. Outside of freak Bowers, I wouldn't take any other TE in the country over him. That is elite to me.
What better option was available in the portal last year? The answer is there wasn't one. There were no Trevor Lawrences in the portal last year. Freeman brought in the best option available.
I agree with everything here, except your first point. I just don't see it. The Oline has been hot garbage since the Ohio State game, I get that. But difference makers take the situation into their own hands. I don't feel like Hartman has done that much. He made a lot of bad decisions with the ball under pressure. Its a combo effort and the oline is the crux of it all I believe. But I don't think Hartman is anything special. Solid, yes.. .special, not so much.
I never said we could have got better.
If it's a NY6, I want him to play and think he will. If it's not, I'd rather Angeli and Minchey get the playing time
RE: Angeli or Minchey, I don't think next years QB is on the roster today, so I'm not sure how that helps anything. But that aside, what is Sam's rationale for playing the NY6 bowl? His draft status could likely only drop if he's playing a good team on NY day. Or, he could be injured. I understand you want him to play, but I'm not sure it helps him, unless he plays lights out. That would seem to be unlikely with his WR room injured and his top TE out.
I think he's done a great job overall. He's not Trevor Lawrence or Bryce Young, but he's a very good college QB IMO. I'll give him a B+ so far, due to the Louisville game bringing him down a bit.
Regardless, one of them will be the main backup or oitright starter if the guy you are referring to gets injured. So it's actually very important.
I thought Quinn was a terrific QB and was surprised he didn't make the grade in the NFL. I was not as impressed with Clausen who could throw to people named Floyd, Tate, Rudolph, etc...
Now that players are getting NIL money, you'd think they'd be required to play the entire season, bowl game included.
Elite is Michael Mayer, Tyler Eifert, Brock Bowers. Kincaid. Mitchell is not elite. If he’s considered Elite, no doubt Hartman should be as well. Who do you think every coach, player and analyst would consider more elite? Seems your bars are quite different based on position, much higher expectations for QB.
I think Evans is the 2nd best TE in cfb when he is on the field this year
Describing Evans as "elite..." is simply hyperbole.
Yesterday Golson said Audric Estime is the best running back in CFB.
