CFP Top 25

[NDinNJ]

Exactly what is the criteria?
PSU best win is a 14 victory at home vs Illinois who need ot to beat Purdue & Nebraska and a hail mary to beat Rutgers.
PSU struggled with Bowling Green
PSU struggled with 6-5 USC
PSU struggled with 5-6 Wisconsin
PSU struggled with 6-5 Minnesota

Best win is 35-6 vs 6-5 Washington.
It seems their best argument is they lost to OSU at home by 7.

Again read the criteria it's published. Records being the same.
1. Strength of Schedule: PSU has the advantage
2. Head to Head: Not applicable, they didn't play each other
3. results over common opponents, without incenting margin of victory. It's equal at this point.

Again I believe, ND is a better team, but based on the CFP, I don't believe they move ND ahead of PSU if they both finish 11-1.

 

[sjb75]

I've been hoping for those matchups for several weeks. There's a good chance it shakes out that way.

Have to win next week in LA. Are you by chance going?

No. I will be in Fresno.

 

[sjb75]

Again read the criteria it's published. Records being the same.
1. Strength of Schedule: PSU has the advantage
2. Head to Head: Not applicable, they didn't play each other
3. results over common opponents, without incenting margin of victory. It's equal at this point.

Again I believe, ND is a better team, but based on the CFP, I don't believe they move ND ahead of PSU if they both finish 11-1.

My thoughts exactly.

I believe Notre Dame would beat Penn State; however,

 

[Golson5]

AP Top 25 rankings

ND beat

20 Texas Am
25 Army
29 Louisville
37 GT

PSU beat

22 Illinois

That's the list....

 

[NDinNJ]

AP Top 25 rankings

ND beat

20 Texas Am
25 Army
29 Louisville
37 GT

PSU beat

22 Illinois

That's the list....

AP ranking has zero to do with the CFP, ZERO. It's as useless as the F+ or any other poll out there.

 

[sjb75]

AP Top 25 rankings

ND beat

20 Texas Am
25 Army
29 Louisville
37 GT

PSU beat

22 Illinois

That's the list....

Which doesn’t mean shit.

 

[Golson5]

AP ranking has zero to do with the CFP, ZERO. It's as useless as the F+ or any other poll out there.

So does your opinion and mine but we still continue to put it on here

So I'll continue to put it on here if I want to

 

[Golson5]

Which doesn’t mean shit.

I know to you it doesn't. Doesn't fit your narrative

 

[NDinNJ]

AP Top 25 rankings

ND beat

20 Texas Am
25 Army
29 Louisville
37 GT

PSU beat

22 Illinois

That's the list....

If you are so confident ND jumps PSU let's make a wager. If both ND and PSU finish the season with the same record 11-1. If the CFP committee ranks ND ahead of PSU, I won't post or comment on this forum for the upcoming college football bowl season and playoffs, up to and including the championship game. If PSU remains ahead of ND in the CFP rankings, you don't post or comment on this forum for the upcoming bowl season and playoffs, including the championship game.

 

[Golson5]

If you are so confident ND jumps PSU let's make a wager. If both ND and PSU finish the season with the same record 11-1. If the CFP committee ranks ND ahead of PSU, I won't post or comment on this forum for the upcoming college football bowl season and playoffs, up to and including the championship game. If PSU remains ahead of ND in the CFP rankings, you don't post or comment on this forum for the upcoming bowl season and playoffs, including the championship game.

I didn't say they would dumbass. I said they should.

But after the SC game we'll revisit this proposition

Warde Manuel has a huge B10 bias. Having Indiana ranked 5th and PSU 4th obviously showed that

 

[NDinNJ]

I didn't say they would dumbass. I said they should.

But after the SC game we'll revisit this proposition

Warde Manuel has a huge B10 bias. Having Indiana ranked 5th and PSU 4th obviously showed that

No let's make it now. Pu$$y

 

[NDinNJ]

I didn't say they would dumbass. I said they should.

But after the SC game we'll revisit this proposition

Warde Manuel has a huge B10 bias. Having Indiana ranked 5th and PSU 4th obviously showed that

Make the wager now. you are so confident. what you stated:
"We should be 4 on Tuesday.

Obviously jump Indiana and it's time they move us above PSU"

You're assuming the CFP will move us ahead this coming Tuesday. Make the bet now, the wager stands through Tuesday November 26th 2024 at 7:00 PM

 

[BGI User 756]

When you lose at home to shitty abysmal Northern Illinois and never ever mention the loss as a factor in ranking the top 5, you should not be taken seriously.

I would rank Penn State above Notre Dame.

We lost at home to NIU? Never would have ‘thunk it’

 

[BGI User 756]

Yesterday the OL failed to push in power up the middle situations against a smaller Army. Some argued numbers. But a jumbo package should still get push.

I'm not saying flat out overwhelmed...but if Army can make a stand against the ND OL, you'd think this might be a margin of difference against a really good team.

It's a legitimate question and concern. Again, maybe things get corrected by then?

Those calls for Riley to run between the guards were bad calls. Army had 9 in the box…army was selling out on the Riley keeper…

 

[BGI User 756]

This is the Georgia schedule. The SEC gap is small until you play this schedule. How many games would Notre Dame win?

At Kentucky
At Alabama
Auburn
Mississippi State
At Texas
Florida
At Mississippi
Tennessee

Would beat UK, Aub, MSU, UF, UT, and Ole Miss

Would lose Texas. Bama a toss up

Next

 

[NDinNJ]

Those calls for Riley to run between the guards were bad calls. Army had 9 in the box…army was selling out on the Riley keeper…

Exactly. It was a math problem. It's weird Riley didn't change the play. I'm assuming he doesn't have the authority to change out of the play if he see's something with the defense.

 

[BGI User 756]

Wow. So Notre Dame likely goes undefeated in the SEC. Good to know.

He didn’t say that. Keep your lib spin off the board

 

[BGI User 756]

Exactly what is the criteria?
PSU best win is a 14 victory at home vs Illinois who need ot to beat Purdue & Nebraska and a hail mary to beat Rutgers.
PSU struggled with Bowling Green
PSU struggled with 6-5 USC
PSU struggled with 5-6 Wisconsin
PSU struggled with 6-5 Minnesota

Best win is 35-6 vs 6-5 Washington.
It seems their best argument is they lost to OSU at home by 7.

Boom. This

And look at these stats …

#1 in point differential, #2 in turnover margin, #1 in points per play, #1 in points per play allowed, #6 in scoring offense, #2 in scoring defense, #2 in offensive touchdowns, #2 in defensive touchdowns

 

[BGI User 756]

Nostradamus is in this thread.

Says the guy, just 2 weeks ago, predicting Ole Miss and LSU making the playoff

 

[FightingIrish44]

Boom. This

And look at these stats …

#1 in point differential, #2 in turnover margin, #1 in points per play, #1 in points per play allowed, #6 in scoring offense, #2 in scoring defense, #2 in offensive touchdowns, #2 in defensive touchdowns

Those numbers are a thing of beauty. And three touchdowns surrendered were about as garbage time as you can get.

 

[Golson5]

Make the wager now. you are so confident. what you stated:
"We should be 4 on Tuesday.

Obviously jump Indiana and it's time they move us above PSU"

You're assuming the CFP will move us ahead this coming Tuesday. Make the bet now, the wager stands through Tuesday November 26th 2024 at 7:00 PM

Yeah exactly. Thank you for quoting me

We SHOULD be 4 on Tuesday

Appreciate that tool

 

[Golson5]

Boom. This

And look at these stats …

#1 in point differential, #2 in turnover margin, #1 in points per play, #1 in points per play allowed, #6 in scoring offense, #2 in scoring defense, #2 in offensive touchdowns, #2 in defensive touchdowns

None of that matters

NJ says psu should be ahead of ND

How you play does not matter

 

[Golson5]

Please list the quality wins for this team to deserve a #4 ranking.

I realize every narrative with you is pro Notre Dame, that said, please list the quality wins.

Texas Am
Louisville
Army
Georgia Tech

 

[sjb75]

Yeah exactly. Thank you for quoting me

We SHOULD be 4 on Tuesday

Appreciate that tool

If Penn State beats Maryland, either they are the 6, or Notre Dame is the 6 if they beat USC. Oregon IMO will be the 5 after losing to Ohio St.

 

[NDinNJ]

Yeah exactly. Thank you for quoting me

We SHOULD be 4 on Tuesday

Appreciate that tool

You forgot the second half of your post:
"and it's time they move us above PSU"

You're a coward and a fraud. You won't make the bet. you're a genuine pu$$y. 🤣

 

[NDinNJ]

None of that matters

NJ says psu should be ahead of ND

How you play does not matter

I'm not saying they should be, but based on the criteria used by the committee, I don't see how they put ND ahead of PSU. 1. strength of schedule, head to head, and Results over common opponents without incebted margin of victory.

Those stats are meaningless. Army's defense was ranked top 10 heading into the game vs ND, and we all knew they didn't have a top 10 defense. They built that defensive ranking playing a bunch of cupcakes.

 

[sjb75]

You forgot the second half of your post:
"and it's time they move us above PSU"

You're a coward and a fraud. You won't make the bet. you're a genuine pu$$y. 🤣

How do you really feel??

 

[sjb75]

I'm not saying they should be, but based on the criteria used by the committee, I don't see how they put ND ahead of PSU. 1. strength of schedule, head to head, and Results over common opponents without incebted margin of victory.

Those stats are meaningless. Army's defense was ranked top 10 heading into the game vs ND, and we all knew they didn't have a top 10 defense. They built that defensive ranking playing a bunch of cupcakes.

And the cupcakes had no frosting.

 

[NDinNJ]

Boom. This

And look at these stats …

#1 in point differential, #2 in turnover margin, #1 in points per play, #1 in points per play allowed, #6 in scoring offense, #2 in scoring defense, #2 in offensive touchdowns, #2 in defensive touchdowns

Against what schedules. PSU had a tougher strength of schedule. You also thought Army and Navy were going to be competitive games. stats are meaningless. Stats don't mean sh1t. what matters is win loss vs your schedule, who you played (SoS), head to head, results over common opponents without incented margin of victory. This is the criteria, show me where the CFP states they include all those stats you posted.

 

[sjb75]

Against what schedules. PSU had a tougher strength of schedule. You also thought Army and Navy were going to be competitive games. stats are meaningless. Stats don't mean sh1t. what matters is win loss vs your schedule, who you played (SoS), head to head, results over common opponents without incented margin of victory. This is the criteria, show me where the CFP states they include all those stats you posted.

Disingenuous pointing to Navy earlier in the season and now Army as quality wins.

 

[BGI User 756]

If Penn State beats Maryland, either they are the 6, or Notre Dame is the 6 if they beat USC. Oregon IMO will be the 5 after losing to Ohio St.

Could be

 

[BGI User 756]

Against what schedules. PSU had a tougher strength of schedule. You also thought Army and Navy were going to be competitive games. stats are meaningless. Stats don't mean sh1t. what matters is win loss vs your schedule, who you played (SoS), head to head, results over common opponents without incented margin of victory. This is the criteria, show me where the CFP states they include all those stats you posted.

Wrong. Stats do matter. ND, since NIU, has taken care of business on the field in a demonstrative way. They have stomped the teams they are supposed to stomp (much like OSU game plan for last 15 years).

If you are trying to say that Stats don’t matter as much as SOS, then we agree. SOS is a strong component…but news flash…they use stats beyond the W/L records to actually calculate the SOS. So it’s part of the review.

You keep reciting the “criteria” as though the committee will NOW actually restrict themselves ONLY to such. They have demonstrated that is not true. They still talk about “eye test”….and if they had restricted themselves to criteria, then FSU would have been in the championship game last year.

Also, I dont believe for one second that these humans can not compare, to some degree, the common opponent margin of victory. That is a blurry picture for sure.

PSU schedule is ever so slighter better than ND…because of playing OSU…but having watched 7 complete games of theirs, including USC, UCLA, Illinois and Wisky…I agree with you that we are better

 

[Golson5]

You forgot the second half of your post:
"and it's time they move us above PSU"

You're a coward and a fraud. You won't make the bet. you're a genuine pu$$y. 🤣

And it is time they move ahead of PSU

Thank you for quoting me again

You are nailing exactly what I said

Good job

 

[Golson5]

If Penn State beats Maryland, either they are the 6, or Notre Dame is the 6 if they beat USC. Oregon IMO will be the 5 after losing to Ohio St.

Agreed

And I think we should be ahead of PSU

 

[Telx1]

Those calls for Riley to run between the guards were bad calls. Army had 9 in the box…army was selling out on the Riley keeper…

Really bad calls! Thought we got caught up in showing we could impose our will on them, and all we got instead was a pile of bodies Riley couldn’t hurdle. Hell, the way they were selling out and crashing down from the ends, Riley could have faked the handoff and skipped to the pylon.

 

[banmate6]

Those calls for Riley to run between the guards were bad calls. Army had 9 in the box…army was selling out on the Riley keeper…

I'm no expert, but I've seen jumbo packages over the years absolutely get the push for snap under center QB surge. Even selling out. You'd think a bigger, stronger team could do that...ND OL and TEs vs Army smaller guys?

 

[tbonesays]

No shit! We fricking know it was an awfull loss. How many f...king times are you going to say it? You obviously havent watched any Penn St games, ND is clearly better. One $hit game doesn't define a season. Give it a break. Why don't you hang out on some sorry usc forum?

IF it did, PSU beat Bowling Green inter alia by one score,

 

[francade]

“Wow. So Notre Dame likely goes undefeated in the SEC. Good to know”

Reading comprehension not your strong suit.

 

[IrishMike409]

You forgot the second half of your post:
"and it's time they move us above PSU"

You're a coward and a fraud. You won't make the bet. you're a genuine pu$$y. 🤣

It's a Sunday night. The Holiday season has started. And....

You're calling someone a Pussy on an anonymous internet message board because he won't make a pointless bet with you.

You're a dark dude.

 

[Chitown11]

I agree, ND is the better team, but unfortunately based on tue cfp criteria, PSU will get the edge in the rankings

I agree