Who should be #4 then ? I think ND could easily be # 3. Texas has their best win at Vanderbilt.
CFP Top 25
- Thread starter Golson5
- Start date
Texas and ND look very similar, both having drawn the lower end of the projected schedules. A week from today we will have the same opponent.
The clear difference is that the Horns' loss is very forgivable while ours is not. Texas's win @MIchigan looked good at the time. IF it is devalued by subsequent records then our win vs Army and needed win @SC will also be devalued.
I agree. The SEC is full of many quality teams. I think if you take out OSU and Oregon there are 6-8 teams from the SEC that are way better than anyone else in the BIG 10. Incredibly deep this year pretty much top to bottom.The SEC is still very good. And sure, they are inflicting losses on each other, compounding out of conference losses.
You also are doing what may critics of ND do...short quips like: they played NIU las week.
Notre Dame is a legitimate top 5 team. Open your eyes.
This is a Notre Dame message board. Expecting something else ? If so you're incredibly naive.
So in your closed mind the NIU game is the ONLY thing that matters. Total performance for the season is not relevant to you.
How much more " upside " are you you looking for ? They're thrashing everyone.
There should be an investigation if ND is still behind PSU Tuesday night. If ND takes care of business next Saturday they should at worst be the 6 seed with a shot at 5 depending on how things play out.
“The SEC is full of many quality teams. I think if you take out OSU and Oregon there are 6-8 teams from the SEC that are way better than anyone else in the BIG 10. Incredibly deep this year pretty much top to bottom.”
Nonsense.
“way better”? You’ve always been an sec honk but give me a break. Besides, what kind of comparison is that? Take the two top teams in the sec out of the equation, you’re saying there’s 4-6 teams left that are “way better” than the big 10 sans osu & oregon? Is lsu better than usc in your scenario? They’re a very average conference this year and the results prove that.
Nonsense.
“way better”? You’ve always been an sec honk but give me a break. Besides, what kind of comparison is that? Take the two top teams in the sec out of the equation, you’re saying there’s 4-6 teams left that are “way better” than the big 10 sans osu & oregon? Is lsu better than usc in your scenario? They’re a very average conference this year and the results prove that.
Says you. I watch a lot of football. My eyes tell me different. I think LSU is much better than USC. I think Ole Miss, A&M, Bama, South Carolina, Georgia, are all better than Penn St. I'm a football fan who calls it how I see it. Not sure how I'm a SEC honk. I was a huge Bama fan when coach was there. No longer.
Absolutely nothing! If they can somehow beat your beloved under rated usc next week they will vault to #1!
This doesn’t seem to jive with your opinion of the SEC. If the SEC was so good, then ND would probably have two more losses and not be in the top 5 because ND hasn’t played a strong schedule (I’m talking from your perspective).
I also think Penn State is better than you give them credit for, and I also don’t think Indiana is that far apart from Ohio State. Ohio State had the better playcalling it seems that day at least on defense. The punter dropped the snap. The punt team member needed to just break down on that punt return TD. That was two significant plays.
Can you imagine being SBJ75, posting the same response over and over again on a daily basis for months? It’s wild
The SEC is very balanced this year unlike past years when one or two were clearly dominant. This year I think they have a half dozen teams at least capable of beating anyone. I think ND is that capable also. The SEC is cannibalizing itself because of that balance. I'm not suggesting that should give them a pass with the committee but when comparing teams I'm guessing it will be a factor. Indiana may have benefitted the most from what happened in the SEC yesterday. I was not impressed at all with Indiana yesterday especially their offense. One really good drive early. OSU started to dial up pressure and the Indiana o line was awful. Too many free lanes to the QB who was clearly rattled. I think they back in to the playoff and get drilled in the 1st round.
Oregon would still be #1 as they should with their win over OSU. ND would certainly be #2 had they not lost.
I do think we're playing better than Penn State right now, but I doubt the Committee moves us past them. Also, our best win took a ding yesterday, with TAMU losing.
True about A&M but it will be close for ND to jump Penn State. ND can help their cause by stomping USC whereas PSU really escaped.
I agree 100%. Even Alabama, can't believe we're saying that, is a dangerous team. They've played a really strong schedule in a transition year. A lot are writing off the SEC prematurely.
Don't get me wrong. I'm enjoying our Notre Dame 1st world college football problems. 1st time a while I felt this good about ND.
Most importantly, I feel some magic about the team. Marcus Freeman, as this is what it will take and he has to bring. I just don't want to get too carried away...NIU and the schedule are real factors.
The Irish need to win next week...and I for one see some start aligning, as maybe some strong SEC teams get left out...on too many losses vs some proportional representation.
Again, for me the goal of the a 12 team playoff...get the 1st 4-5 in, with some margin for the rest. ND should be there.
Watching PSU, Bama and UTn....I dont see them being favored over ND....its a "Pick'em" based on where they play.....Oregon isnt exactly blowing people out, they got lucky against Wisky that got blown out by Nebraska. UGA's QB is inconsistent, and TX lost badly the only talented team they have played to date.
ND is a top 5 when RL is on......When he hits open receivers and you cant stack the box we will be tough to beat. You have to hope for a bad day because our defense will give him numerous chances. I like where we are, doesnt matter if we are 1 or 5......But, if you were really ranking them it would be Oregon, OSU, TX and ND.......those teams are passing the eye test.
I explained ND winning is not a fuller test due to the schedule and some lingering doubt vs NIU. Yes, ND is taking care of business, as you only can play the schedule you have...but the upside is doing it in the playoffs, showing PROVEN elite capability.
Thrash them in the playoffs. Like the Fighting Irish did in my youth, instilling fear in everybody. Return to glory.
The margin is tighter. I still give the SEC the edge. I skim a few games during enough Saturdays. The SEC is still good. Period.
For the 1st time in years, they're indeed being challenged as top 4...Ohio State, Oregon, and Texas is non-traditional SEC. Bulldogs might be in there, but even they aren't peak SEC.
Anybody would be as challenged in their league with that schedule.
I think it’s less about who we beat and more about the teams that above us did. We atleast played and beat ranked teams
I'm not so granular after those top 4 who more clearly deserve the ranking.
After that it is a dogfight. Let it be decided in the playoffs. Win for all concerned.
“Says you. I watch a lot of football. My eyes tell me different. I think LSU is much better than USC. I think Ole Miss, A&M, Bama, South Carolina, Georgia, are all better than Penn St. I'm a football fan who calls it how I see it. Not sure how I'm a SEC honk. I was a huge Bama fan when coach was there. No longer.”
I watch a lot of football too & you saying that you think lsu is way better than usc is one of the dumber things I’ve heard on here. You sound like chase citing pff. It’s a ridiculous argument.
I watch a lot of football too & you saying that you think lsu is way better than usc is one of the dumber things I’ve heard on here. You sound like chase citing pff. It’s a ridiculous argument.
Whether or not ND deserves to be #3 or #4 , it's hard to jump another team that is also winning. Yes, PSU struggled against Minnesota, but they still won on the road. Add in the fact that the 12 team playoff is skewed to prop up the two super conferences, I can't see the playoff committee having ND jump PSU..
Claim all you want that ND beat a #19 Army, but Army did not deserve that ranking just like IU did not deserve their high ranking. The committee clearly doesn't weigh schedule strength in their rankings even though they are supposed to.
If we beat SC, we will have the same record and 2 common opponents
We beat Purdue by 59. Psu beat Purdue by 39
Advantage ND
PSU beat SC by 3 in overtime. If we handle business we will have the advantage there as well
At that point, there is no logical reason to have psu above ND. How you are playing and look on the field has to matter
When you lose at home to shitty abysmal Northern Illinois and never ever mention the loss as a factor in ranking the top 5, you should not be taken seriously.
I would rank Penn State above Notre Dame.
You're not very bright. So what you are saying then is since ND beat Purdue 66-7 and PSU beat Purdue 49-10 ND should be ranked ahead of PSU? That's the dumbest thing I've read.
Then per your idiotic logic, ND should be ranked ahead of Ohio State as well because OSU only beat Purdue 45-0. ND should also be ahead of Oregon because Oregon only beat Purdue 35-0. ND is clearly better than both of those teams because they beat Purdue by a greater margin than those two. Again the dumbest thing I've ever read, more dumb than your claim that Riley Leonard is 1st round NFL talent. 😂🤣😂🤣
Wow you are really dumb. That's what you came with.
Ohio state has a better resume than us so they aren't included in this talk. We're talking about 2 very comparable teams who will be 4 and 5 in the next ranking. Not Ohio state you absolute bafoon
Tell us again how Jack made a mistake by not doing a coaching search and going after Kalen Doboer..... Or going with the experience of Luke Fickell
You absolute Dope 🤣🤣🤣
ND is a better team than Penn State and having 2 common opponents should be and will be a factor when the Final ranking comes out
You act like you never heard of that concept. Uh duh PSU good, ND bad.
It will be talked about when this 2 teams are battling for position.
How teams played against common opponents is always a factor
And if we played better against Purdue and SC there's a good chance that puts us above PSU
Use your head
Notre Dame is 0-1 for the season in your world, and nothing said here is going to change this.
Tons of parity....it'd clear as day.
And when there's parity....I trust an elite run game, and elite D, and a senior trusted QB.
10-1.
But when you lose at home to Shitty Abysmal Northern Illinois, and you compare yourself to 10-1 Penn State, don’t whine if you are ranked one spot behind.
IMO the loss was that egregiously bad.
