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By that reasoning, what has ND achieved? Not even that.

PSU’s best win has a higher ranking than ND’s best win being Army. Seeing Army qualifying as that brings a whole lot of non-positive thoughts to one’s mind.

Going with a MOV idea puts ND in a class with IU. Not sure ND supporters want to go that direction.
How about comparing playing common opponents, like USC
 
Whom is Penn St's best win? I seriously don't know.
Interesting. Claiming to be unknowledgeable now. How were you then able to make this definitive statement a little while back?
The projections have all locked IU and PSU into the 5th and 6th slots with some saying ND will have to travel in the first playoff round. That might change or it might just stay dumb if those two buggers finish 11-1 each having a quality loss and no quality wins.
Honesty is the best policy (and a Commandment).
 
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