And to think some people had this ridiculous argument that having a 12 team playoff would somehow diminish the regular season, LOL. It has enhanced the regular season and made it much more interesting. AL with 3 losses has no business in the playoff discussion, its an absolute fricking joke, however it doesn't surprise me. They could have 4 losses and there would be some imbeciles claiming they belong in the playoffs. This isn't Nick Sabans team anymore.
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You have nothing to back that up. Fact is SC won heads up against LSU. And SC has played a top 15 schedule and has had the lead in every 4th quarter and largest margin of defeat is 7 points
They are better than LSU
Inaccurate. Only Espn thinks so and their sos rankings are a joke
Regardless, unless PSU loses to Maryland on Saturday, there is no indication that the committee is going to move ND ahead of PSU. Let's hope for chaos for the teams ahead of ND this week, so hopefully ND can end up as the 5th seed in the final ranking.
Illinois, Wisconsin, Washington, USC, Minnesota, West Virginia are all competitive teams ranked from 20-50 (west virginia being the exception at #56)
and then OSU is top 3 (depending on the ranking system)
NDs schedule can't compete with that
The counterpoint was it would diminish the meaning of the result of a game. That is still true.
For once I agree with you. Although they have 2 common opponents. They both throttled Purdue, 59 vs 39 point margins, but at that point does the margin of victory really matter? A blowout is a blowout.
PSU struggled against USC. USC is no Miami OH or Purdue. I'll be happy if ND comes away with a win and endures a playoff spot with a 1st round home game.
We play USC.
So you mentioned 5 teams. None are any good. Illinois is solid. The others are just average
According to your own rankings we will have played 4 top 35 teams. So even your own point doesn't make sense
14. Texas Am
18. Louisville
21. USC
35. Army
Psu according to your rankings will have played 2 top 35 teams
1. OSU
21. USC
They are being propped up by Ohio State. They've won 1 top 35 game according to your own F+. We've won 4 top 35 according to F+. So either you believe in your rankings or you don't. Can't have it both ways
You mentioned West Virginia but you forgot that Georgia Tech is ranked higher than them
Your own post explains how silly the playoff makes the regular season.
Having subjective ranking systems in place for college football is a big win for the media that covers college football. It creates all sorts of drama and talking points. Team A has 3 losses and doesn't belong. Team B is ranked too high because they haven't played anyone, etc., etc. We all fall
into it including us in this forum.
Hell ya we do. This board has been poppin for the past few weeks. And it'll continue.
Would love to see how Chase challenges this.
And you're correct: he lives by the F+.....
We're potentially going to have 5 wins in the F+ 35.
Penn State, just 1.
F+ is a joke and it's meaningless as it's not used in the CFP rankings.
If we could have an adult conversation on this. The CFP has stated they receive their data from Sportssource analytics, and the data is not published. They did state that for guidance on Strength of Schedule, fans can follow ESPN's FPI resume portion to get SoS, which to me means the data they are getting regarding SoS is similar to what the FPI data shows regarding SoS.
The FPI SoS/Resume portion shows ND's SoS at 78 and PSU's at 32.
Unfortunately, there are too many immature children on this forum that can't comprehend what they read, and misconstrue that as following the FPI rankings as guidance.
I'm just posting what I read. Doesn't mean I agree or disagree with it, but I believe based on what I've been reading, the committee is not going to rank ND ahead of PSU unless PSU loses this weekend. So as ND fans we need to hope for some chaos this weekend. Maryland beating PSU, Texas losing, Michigan beating OSU, and/or Oregon losing to Washington
A lot of big games these next days. I think we might see some of the chaos that you mentioned.
Handle business Saturday night in LA, then it gets pretty damn interesting. If we can catch a break and get a favorable matchup....we could go deep into this thing.
I'm concerned about the DL. Cross out. Onye out. We're getting thin there. Need to get the rotation solidified.
If our front 7 continues to dominate....we can beat anyone.
We also play USC, and TAMU and Louisville are both better than any of their other opponents not named Ohio State. Also, Georgia Tech is as good as any of those other teams listed.
The only real difference between our schedules is that they have Ohio State, while we don't have any top 10 teams (anymore).
Good.
Do you have any concerns with our DL and depth challenges? Or do you think we're good for USC.
If we win Saturday, it'll be nice to get a couple of weeks off to get healthy.
I believe ND has the best coaching staff in college on the defensive side of the ball.
When it comes to the playoffs, we need certain teams to lose if we want the 6 seed.
ND needs lot of help to get the 5 or 6 seed.
If PSU wins on Saturday however, the 5 seed is no longer possible. The committee is not going to put ND ahead of PSU.
So for ND to get the 5 seed, we need PSU and OSU or Oregon to lose this weekend.
The wildcard in this is the BIG championship game. If both OSU and Oregon win this weekend. Where does the committee place OSU if they lose to Oregon a second time. Do they drop them below ND? If OSU wins, I doubt they drop Oregon lower than 5, unless OSU blows them out maybe, but even then, do they drop them below ND?
Good for USC. If we have any more guys go down it will be a problem for the playoffs
This isn’t difficult… I think nd is better than psu but due to our nil loss if we played Penn states sos the metrics say we’d have 2 losses. A terrible loss and osu. Psu has no terrible losses. This isn’t hard to comprehend.
With that said, nd smokes usc and they should jump Penn state.
Should and does are totally different. I don't believe the cfp committee will see it your way.
After Saturday the PC will have a common opponent (with a pulse) for ND and PSU. They should look at that and rank accordingly.
Not what F+ says so why are you not quoting F+ here….you fraud
I think the loser of BIG will still get #5 seed (if OSU beats MI of course). ND best hope is #6 but will probable settle in as a #7 or #8 at worse as long as they win on saturday
#5 is extremely difficult to imagine. #6 is 40-60 IMO if Penn State beats Maryland.
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That's one criteria and according to their guidelines they aren't supposed to look at margin of victory. Strength of schedule is the other. This is why I believe ND will not jump ahead of PSU if PSU wins this weekend.
The playoff committee doesn't have a criteria, they are all over the place.
