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Where's Golson5?

NDinNJ
chaseball said:
Bro you just lost how much money on last weeks game? And have been incorrect about a number of topics you had to eat crow on and walk back on all weekend. I'm not trying to defend Golson, but the irony/hypocrisy is overwhelming.
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I haven't had to walk back anything, and I lost my wager on ND vs NIU sure, but I'm at least man enough to admit it. I lost with the houses money from the previous weeks win when I called ND +3.5.
You and your F+ are complete joke and you are proven to be a fool more than you are not.
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Notre Dame favored by 11.5 vs Purdue

chaseball
NDinNJ said:
NIU was even worse, and ND was at Home!

You can't go by your flawed F+. It's a coin flip going by F+
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ND beats NIU 99 times out of 100 IMO.

F+ this early in the year is pretty volatile so your point is somewhat valid. But F+ still provides some kind of compass to go off of rather than flying entirely blind. And a much higher quality compass than the AP Poll lol
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High Praise for ND from an Aggie Podcaster

chaseball
4-4-3 said:
It depends to a large degree on scheduling, right? If ND waters down its schedule going forward, assuming it can handle the NIU's of the world so that the strategy actually works -- BY NO MEANS, A SURE THING -- then that might be its best option. If it takes on a tougher schedule, its odds of reaching naturally drop.

As for Big Ten membership, I'm not at all convinced that as you put it, "ND could easily finish in the top three and be virtually assured of a playoff berth." I mean, OSU, UM, USC, PSU, Oregon and Washington could plausibly all have equal or better teams than ND in a given year, not to mention Iowa, Wisconsin and UCLA in other years. Plus, Maryland and Nebraska can be tough and Purdue can't stay down forever.

Even though I'd like to see ND join the Big Ten, I believe it could cobble together a schedule friendly enough to give it a better chance of making the playoffs as an INDEPENDENT. More control. But then we're back to that OTHER PROBLEM of Big Ten and/or SEC teams potentially FREEZING ND OUT by not scheduling it.

What I'm ACTUALLY for most is the MOST AUTHENTIC REALITY TEST AVAILABLE. And for me, that would involve ND joining the Big Ten, come what may. Because ND would then be forced to compete with the toughest likely PEER GROUP possible and by doing that, SEE WHERE IT REALLY STANDS. In other words, could it take the heat in the Big Ten on a WEEK TO WEEK basis?

Once it saw where it stood, ND would either have to put up -- GO ALL IN FOR FOOTBALL which is highly unlikely -- or shut up and potentially live with a lot of 9-3 and 8-4 seasons, those being its average in GOOD YEARS.

Bottom line: KEEP THE SHAMROCK, LOSE THE ASTERISK.
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Good posts throughout and I always enjoy reading your thoughts and analysis on ND football.

I do however disagree with the Texas A&M win being a "confirmation that ND is a very good team"

Texas A&M is ranked 21st according to latest F+ ranking (through week 2).

Texas A&M recruited really well under Jimbo Fisher and there are still some really highly rated players on their roster, but that whole program has been in disarray for years now, and they are under an entirely new regime with tons of roster attrition, learning a new scheme, new culture, etc.

They are more of a program we should beat in year 3 under MF to confirm that ND isn't a bad team .. but that's probably as far i would go with it.
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Notre Dame favored by 11.5 vs Purdue

NDinNJ
chaseball said:
Purdue is a pretty bad team (ranked way down at 60th) in the latest F+ rankings.

F+ also saw NDs loss to NIU as more of a fluke than some kind of statement about the quality of this years team. ND only moved down 5 spots from #8 to #13 in F+.

Given the overreaction in college football from week to week, ND is probably being penalized too much for their week 2 loss vs NIU.

I'd take ND at -11.5
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NIU was even worse, and ND was at Home!

You can't go by your flawed F+. It's a coin flip going by F+
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High Praise for ND from an Aggie Podcaster

savvyandsassier
Quix0te said:
Interesting info in this link . . .

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

College football walks a fine line between growth and alienating its fan base

No American sport can match college football’s tradition, rivalries, game-day experience or the value of each game during the regular season. The sport is positioned to become even bigger, but it’s also at risk of abandoning the elements that made it so great in the first place.
www.sportsbusinessjournal.com www.sportsbusinessjournal.com
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European soccer couldn't be any more popular and they have the same model and always have and the best, richest clubs have always dominated. They implemented some sort of spending limit regime in some leagues not that it's made any difference. And it's been ever thus in CFB with dominant powers always being dominant, always hoarding the best players and always monopolizing the MNC, and it's seemingly gotten even more popular in the last ten, twenty years when it's become even more one-sided. So I think that this article is stupid. What they say made CFB popular is not what makes it popular. It's just high level tackle football, it's a popular spectator sport. There's nothing like it in the world. If anything supercoferences might make it even more popular, with more substantial matchups and less throwaway games. I do wish they could find a way to keep the conferences regional and still find a way to make everyone happy financially.
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High Praise for ND from an Aggie Podcaster

S
Quix0te said:
Interesting info in this link . . .

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

College football walks a fine line between growth and alienating its fan base

No American sport can match college football’s tradition, rivalries, game-day experience or the value of each game during the regular season. The sport is positioned to become even bigger, but it’s also at risk of abandoning the elements that made it so great in the first place.
www.sportsbusinessjournal.com www.sportsbusinessjournal.com
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Interesting to whom?
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What does this quote say about ND QB play under Freeman?

C
chaseball said:
You call it pick the wrong QB for nearly a decade. I call it make lemonade with lemons for nearly a decade.

Is it mere coincidence that BK goes to LSU, and turns the highest rated QB he ever had (Jayden Daniels) in his career into a top 5 draft pick and heisman trophy winner?
chaseball said:
Parker was really under appreciated last season. NDs offense improved from like the 30s in OF+ in 2022 to top 15 in OF+ in 2023 back down to #32 in OF+ in 2024 (still very early though).

BTW: I'm using "OF+" because the metric is luck and opponent adjusted.
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you know what you can do with that bat shit stupid F+ and now OF+, WTF?
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What does this quote say about ND QB play under Freeman?

M
chaseball said:
Parker was really under appreciated last season. NDs offense improved from like the 30s in OF+ in 2022 to top 15 in OF+ in 2023 back down to #32 in OF+ in 2024 (still very early though).

BTW: I'm using "OF+" because the metric is luck and opponent adjusted.
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And we didn't have any head-scratching losses to completely inferior teams under Parker's offense. We blew those kinds of teams out. Our only losses were to Ohio State on a last minute touchdown, and on the road against quality opponents in Clemson and Louisville.
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High Praise for ND from an Aggie Podcaster

Q
4-4-3 said:
It depends to a large degree on scheduling, right? If ND waters down its schedule going forward, assuming it can handle the NIU's of the world so that the strategy actually works -- BY NO MEANS, A SURE THING -- then that might be its best option. If it takes on a tougher schedule, its odds of reaching naturally drop.

As for Big Ten membership, I'm not at all convinced that as you put it, "ND could easily finish in the top three and be virtually assured of a playoff berth." I mean, OSU, UM, USC, PSU, Oregon and Washington could plausibly all have equal or better teams than ND in a given year, not to mention Iowa, Wisconsin and UCLA in other years. Plus, Maryland and Nebraska can be tough and Purdue can't stay down forever.

Even though I'd like to see ND join the Big Ten, I believe it could cobble together a schedule friendly enough to give it a better chance of making the playoffs as an INDEPENDENT. More control. But then we're back to that OTHER PROBLEM of Big Ten and/or SEC teams potentially FREEZING ND OUT by not scheduling it.

What I'm ACTUALLY for most is the MOST AUTHENTIC REALITY TEST AVAILABLE. And for me, that would involve ND joining the Big Ten, come what may. Because ND would then be forced to compete with the toughest likely PEER GROUP possible and by doing that, SEE WHERE IT REALLY STANDS. In other words, could it take the heat in the Big Ten on a WEEK TO WEEK basis?

Once it saw where it stood, ND would either have to put up -- GO ALL IN FOR FOOTBALL which is highly unlikely -- or shut up and potentially live with a lot of 9-3 and 8-4 seasons, those being its average in GOOD YEARS.

Bottom line: KEEP THE SHAMROCK, LOSE THE ASTERISK.
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Interesting info in this link . . .

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

College football walks a fine line between growth and alienating its fan base

No American sport can match college football’s tradition, rivalries, game-day experience or the value of each game during the regular season. The sport is positioned to become even bigger, but it’s also at risk of abandoning the elements that made it so great in the first place.
www.sportsbusinessjournal.com www.sportsbusinessjournal.com
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Notre Dame favored by 11.5 vs Purdue

chaseball
Purdue is a pretty bad team (ranked way down at 60th) in the latest F+ rankings.

F+ also saw NDs loss to NIU as more of a fluke than some kind of statement about the quality of this years team. ND only moved down 5 spots from #8 to #13 in F+.

Given the overreaction in college football from week to week, ND is probably being penalized too much for their week 2 loss vs NIU in the eyes of the public.

I'd take ND at -11.5
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