chaseball said:

Wealthy alums have been supporting their favorite school's endeavors going back to the start of time. Isn't this essentially what endowments are? Some wealthy donor wants to see his school do well so is willing to burn millions of dollars of his own money so that the school prospers? I don't see the problem. It sounds like a win win to me. I don't understand why once the players start getting a well deserved piece of the pie, everybody wants to start clutching their pearls.

Also, a lot of prospects flameout (don't ever produce for the schools they join) but a lot of them do produce as well.

Is football talent less predictable than baseball talent that has to graduate like 4 levels of pro baseball before ever taking a major league at bat? I doubt it. The best HS baseball talent in the june draft get paid 7-8 figures and most of those guys don't ever make it to the major leagues. The average major league baseball team isn't making much more money than a college football blue blood in 2024.

Coaching staffs are being paid $20M at major P4 schools .. and now those same schools have added another $20-$30M in NIL to retain the players on their roster as well. This is the cost of doing business.

Football is dangerous. CTE is a real thing. Players are risking long term injury to make schools extremely wealthy at a chance to earn millions of dollars in the NFL someday with a very small window to earn. Its good that they are starting to get paid for the value that they produce (even if that value is purely potential value) much sooner.

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echowaker said:

I'm not sure Army could beat any SEC team.

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echowaker said:

I'm not sure Army could beat any SEC team.

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echowaker said:

I'm not sure Army could beat any SEC team.

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THUNDERSTRUCK111 said:

I took a look at army’s roster. Do they get more scholarship players or something. I saw they had like 20 + running backs on the roster I was looking at.

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Holycrossover3 said:

The frustration is mutual. I do understand your viewpoint. That players have value at all different levels, and there are players which values that far exceed a $12M cap. True.

Where we differ is college football is very different than any other sport. It is a 3-4 year max contract, different than any sport you’ve mentioned. Also, my hesitation on paying someone like underwood now, is not that players aren’t worth the money, it’s if these players can necessarily be identified as early as Underwood was. Possibly the most valuable college player in the last 10-12 years was Johnny Manziel, he’s someone who would never have been valued high until after recruiting.

To your last point, when someone like Ellison comes in, true market value no longer matters. They can just overspend with no issue. $10M to someone with $230B is not the same as $10M to any institution.

I don’t think we need to keep arguing our points, simply two different views on when players values are known.

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sjb75 said:

Army would be 6-6 in the SEC, and isn’t beating Notre Dame.

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burmafrd1943 said:

fan is short for fanatic in some cases so those unable to uncouple that from their emotions will tend to look really stupid.
I would hate it to happen from a ND fan standpoint; but if it did I would cheer damn hard for them to make it into the playoffs and do well.

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FightingIrish44 said:

Me stating that is purely a hypothetical. I stated nothing about wanting to see them win against ND. “If Army goes 12-0” is what I said. It doesn’t matter if I’m an ND fan or not.

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THUNDERSTRUCK111 said:

I took a look at army’s roster. Do they get more scholarship players or something. I saw they had like 20 + running backs on the roster I was looking at.

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nptb said:

ACC is just as tough as the SEC. ESPN will never argue that though. I should have said unless Alabama or Georgia are conference champs they won't jump an 11-1 ND.

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nptb said:

The ACC games have been great. SMU, Miami, Clemson, Louisville, Duke and Syracuse have played some good ball. Pitt has had it's moments but they were escaping some games early in the season and their good early record was fools gold. The SEC schools are no better than the ACC schools and that will be realized next week with the SEC ACC matchup's outside of FSU vs UF.
FSU is dog water this season.

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chaseball said:

Nobody has any clue how these athletic departments are spending their money in any specific line-by-line sense all we can do is speculate based on the limited information that is available

All we know is that these colleges are making huge sums of money in a multi-billion dollar industry and are able to skirt any type of labor laws in the name of amateurism and academics 😂

As these major college football teams make their institutions prodigiously wealthy beyond their wildest wet dreams I have a hard time finding any sort of sympathy for them or their plight. It's the players who are blowing out their bodies with a really small window to earn and cash in on their skills that I sympathize with

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The LSU Football team's NIL offer to Bryce Underwood was laughable

The last month, things have been intense in the recruitment of Bryce Underwood between LSU and Michigan. The Wolverines got together and built a war chest of NI

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Harpo Marxist said:

LSU fans are losing their minds over the flip. The 60 mil owed to Kelly is getting smaller by the day. TAMU owed Jimbo 77 mil and was glad to pay it. Kelly will have to gut his coaching staff after this season.....and that means starting over. I don't think LSU has the appetite for a do over after year 3. I think he's gone after this season.

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savvyandsassier said:

Right, that's the new word. Larry Ellison. Well, lucky for Michigan. They have their sugar daddy, who could easily manage an NFL payroll annually with no problem. And BU is the first big splash. That little geek was just the frontman.

But barstool probably wanted to get their beak wet as it were. With a nominal contribution, so they can bask in it. In any case, revenue sharing is basically here, so it's going to totally blow up everything. At least that's my very slight understanding. And NIL's reign of bidding war terror will have been short-lived. Whether or not Ellison is going to spend heavily on the program overall, I guess we'll find out.

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FightingIrish44 said:

Me stating that is purely a hypothetical. I stated nothing about wanting to see them win against ND. “If Army goes 12-0” is what I said. It doesn’t matter if I’m an ND fan or not.

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tbonesays said:

Better than Ole Miss? that could be open soon. Florida, Bama, Michigan, USC, Oklahoma.

The SEC has the best 1-loss team and the two best 2-loss teams, see both polls and computers. All of those won good out of conference matchups early in the year. That is why the #5 seed is valuable and why it sucks that it is probably going to the loser of the BUGCG . The 5th seed will likely play Boise at home and then the Big12 champion (fringe top 20 Arizona St?) in the next round; dodging the strong SEC teams.

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tbonesays said:

UT and anOSU are close but I think Texas is a little better.

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