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FightingIrish44 said:
I’m not convinced that DJ U is a bad QB as there were quite a few drops and pressures on him. He does seem to be fairly immobile though.

One of the keys to the loss was Norvell going for it on 4th and 5 from his 47. The pass was picked and returned to their 5 or so. That’s way too aggressive IMO and cost them 75+ yards of field position and then BC scored.

I think BC looks like they have a solid defense and offensive line. Castellanos makes them dangerous too. I don’t even know what they return from last year other than Castellanos, but they did go 7-6 and almost beat FSU last year but they had around 21 penalties.

I would not at all be surprised if BC upsets Missouri next week and then beats Michigan State. Credit to them for scheduling two Power 4 teams.
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BC - FSU

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BGI User 756 said:
GT is the real deal. That OL will put a couple guys into the pros. Veteran and strong. Have had my eye on them since last year. Dont undersell King and the WRs as well. Their safety Brooks was terrific last year .

Didn’t look at BC, so good point. But don’t sleep on GT
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GT Oline and TE’s seem well coached to my amateur eyes. Their schemes on offense seem line an absolute pain but I think ND will get some good practice against NIU this week. King seems to be pretty accurate in addition to his skills on the ground.

GT defense looks a lot better this year too.
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I’m not convinced that DJ U is a bad QB as there were quite a few drops and pressures on him. He does seem to be fairly immobile though.

One of the keys to the loss was Norvell going for it on 4th and 5 from his 47. The pass was picked and returned to their 5 or so. That’s way too aggressive IMO and cost them 75+ yards of field position and then BC scored.

I think BC looks like they have a solid defense and offensive line. Castellanos makes them dangerous too. I don’t even know what they return from last year other than Castellanos, but they did go 7-6 and almost beat FSU last year but they had around 21 penalties.

I would not at all be surprised if BC upsets Missouri next week and then beats Michigan State. Credit to them for scheduling two Power 4 teams.
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Chitown11 said:
bk is NOT an excellent coach, hes above average. Hes not called "big game brian" for nothing
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I think BK is a very good football coach. His track record puts him in the top 15 people in the known universe at building and sustaining a college football program again and again. I do not like the guy, I hope he fails at LSU, I think he is a weasel, but he is a very good coach. He may or may not be excellent (I would say "just shy of excellent" but it's quibbling). However he dragged our asses out of the dark ages--so IMHO that was excellent for us.
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melstew said:
You write like Jack Kerouac and I enjoy your posts. But assuming 10 straight wins against some teams that could turn out to be pretty good (I worry about Louisville and GT) means this team has come a long way. Winning on road at SEC is huge in itself, but we have the kind of momentum now that all of BK's twerking and accents could not achieve. He was an excellent coach for us, and that should not be denied. But MF really is relatable, and decent, and talented (although watching him learn on the job was sometimes painful). And now we have Shane Gillis (we need to get him to a game) and Pat Macafee and Herbie and his dog on our side. Can youuu smeelll what the Coach is cookin!!
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MF rocks, you couldn't find a better fit for ND than him. In retrospect I'm sure that's why they felt they absolutely had to hire this guy. Totally worth taking the chance. I don't mean if he can coach good or not, that's almost beside the point. But as far as being a so-called character fit at a fussy place like ND, I don't think they come much more perfect than MF. And by all appearances he's totally delivering as a coach. And we're making the playoff with ease, and hopefully we go undefeated. If we're the #5 seed we could easily win the first two and get into the semis....
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F+ update through week 1 (ND stays at #8, TAMU slips to #20)

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chaseball said:
Coming into the season, SP+ projections projected Notre Dame's offense to be as good as the defense (tied at 10th in the country for both). After week 1 results, the OF+ (offensive F+ ranking) is ranked at 17th, and the defense is ranked at 7th. ND stayed at #8 overall in F+ rankings and TAMU slipped to #20 from #17 after this week 1 loss.

Top 10 through week 1:

1. Georgia, 2.64
2. Alabama, 2.33
3. OSU, 2.17
4. Texas, 2.04
5. Oregon, 2.03
6. Michigan, 1.89
7. Penn St. 1.84
8. Notre Dame, 1.71 (offense 17th, defense 7th)
9. Ole Miss, 1.59
10. OU, 1.56

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F+ update through week 1 (ND stays at #8, TAMU slips to #20)

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At the 10,000 foot level, F+ is a ranking system that ranks each of the 130+ FBS teams based on their on field production, and adjusts each teams performance for opponent quality and for luck. e.g. teams that produce yards and TDs and prevent their opponent from producing yards and TDs (with the quality of their opponent taken into consideration) will do well in this system.

The rankings are super volatile at this early point in the season but will get more accurate as the sample size gets larger later into the 2024 season. At about week 5 of last year, F+ had 4 of the eventual college-football-playoff teams ranked inside the top 5 in F+ and had Michigan as the defacto best team in the country way out in front of everybody.

Also worth noting, 10 of the top 12 teams in F+ through week 1 are SEC & BIG10 teams.

Top 12 through week 1:

1. Georgia, 2.64
2. Alabama, 2.33
3. OSU, 2.17
4. Texas, 2.04
5. Oregon, 2.03
6. Michigan, 1.89
7. Penn St. 1.84
8. Notre Dame, 1.71 (offense 17th, defense 7th)
9. Ole Miss, 1.59
10. OU, 1.56
11. Missouri, 1.48
12. Kansas State, 1.46


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BK post pressure….

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Telx1 said:
For me, Golson was the most frustrating QB of the Kelly era. Incredible arm, threw a beautiful pass, had athleticism to extend plays and represent a true dual threat, started off like an All American talent. But turnovers, an inability to throw the ball away when no one was open, failure to accept coaching, etc… ruined what looked like a promising career in Kelly’s offense. Him walking past Kelly and just ignoring Kelly’s outbursts was incredibly disrespectful of his obligation as the team’s starting QB…much more an indictment of Golson than Kelly. But as I said, the image of him just ignoring a red faced Kelly screaming over yet another mistake filled series is one hell of a lasting image.
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I was right there with you, Telx1. I remember watching Golson's HS tape and being blown away by what I saw. I thought he would be ND's next great QB, and that he might even win a Heisman in the process. In fact, I was goaded into making a bet (a not insubstantial one) by a couple of my buddies who are ND haters that Golson would win a Heisman during his time at ND. Needless to say, after a promising start, that bet did not end well. I am not sure which was worse, paying off the bet or enduring the ignominy of all their taunts afterwards.

Golson had as much arm talent as any QB I have ever seen at ND. He threw a beautiful ball and, as you note, he had athleticism to extend plays. He should have been a great one, but that never happened. Makes you understand that arm talent is only part of being a great QB. Some guys, like Joe Montana, not only excel when the pressure is on, they thrive. Sadly, Everett Golson just never developed that talent. Some of that, I feel, was on Golson's lack of development by Kelly. But Golson shoulders much of the blame himself, including (obviously) his suspension for an honors code violation. I wonder how much that self-inflicted wound stunted his development when he came back from the suspension. It must have been tough for him to go back to his home town in South Carolina and have people look at him and think of him as a cheater.
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melstew said:
You write like Jack Kerouac and I enjoy your posts. But assuming 10 straight wins against some teams that could turn out to be pretty good (I worry about Louisville and GT) means this team has come a long way. Winning on road at SEC is huge in itself, but we have the kind of momentum now that all of BK's twerking and accents could not achieve. He was an excellent coach for us, and that should not be denied. But MF really is relatable, and decent, and talented (although watching him learn on the job was sometimes painful). And now we have Shane Gillis (we need to get him to a game) and Pat Macafee and Herbie and his dog on our side. Can youuu smeelll what the Coach is cookin!!
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bk is NOT an excellent coach, hes above average. Hes not called "big game brian" for nothing
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Football Podcast: Charlie Weis Sr. on evaluating QBs, coaching in modern college football

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Former Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis Sr. (2005-09) discusses the keys to keeping players locked in for a home opener, evaluating quarterbacks on potential, the value of seeing a transfer quarterback handle a new situation, if he would have enjoyed coaching in the current college football climate, how he watches a game, his connection to defensive coordinator Al Golden, his relationship with head coach Marcus Freeman, how much ND's offensive line can improve, his weight loss journey, his continued ties to South Bend and more.

Then @Eric Hansen and I answer questions from Twitter and The Insider Lounge (25:39).

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Golson5 said:
Oh that's not true. Our running backs are better and our QB is a running threat while there's is not. Also our secondary is better than theirs

Their OL gave up 3 tackles for loss. Ours gave up 7

If you switched OLs before the game, ND wins by more with TX Ams OL. Our final numbers just look better because we have the better players on offense and a running QB but if you watched or rewatched the game, their OL was better
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If you’re going to point to NDs offensive talent then you better point out that TAMU’s DL is much better than ours and Top 5 in the country.
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BK post pressure….

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Kelly has that enormous contract...to be sure. However, underperforming is grounds for termination with cause. The contractual details are unknown...but I can't imagine LSU tolerating 3 loss seasons routinely. This is year 3 of said losses or worse. My guess is....he will get one more after this one to make the playoffs. Could be wrong. But a pattern is already developing at LSU...starting with losing the opener.
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savvyandsassier said:
Connor Weigman absolutely sucked. Obviously our defense had something do with that, a lot to do with it. But the idea that this plodding, thus-far underachieving, very likely to be yet another five star bust/disappointment QB was all set to shred ND apart and take his place in the pantheon of great QBs of the last thirty years, but our defense was such a towering colossus that we made him look like a shitty walk-on instead, is not accurate. It's in the same vein as the whole Anthonie Knapp is an OL of destiny thing that preceded the game.

Knapp got the nod by force of unfortunate circumstance, which happens sometimes and teams have to start a true frosh for lack of a preferred alternative and it is what it is, and it worked out tolerably enough and we got the win. And Connor Weigman just plain sucks, even though of course the defense was all over him, and shut him down, and he played like shit. Both with excellent individual play, and presumably good tactical scheming to throw him off his rhythm and whatnot. But he definitely did suck all on his own to the point where it was almost annoying, and insulting. As if to say, god damn dude, you suck. How many times are you going to miss your WRs that are being well defended, but not that well defended, and make some shitty lame throw that lands at their feet, or sails ten feet over their head?

But whatever, we got the win. And we'll be 11-0 heading into the big USC game, and maybe USC will still be nursing playoff possibilities of their own, as their defense looks much improved...
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You write like Jack Kerouac and I enjoy your posts. But assuming 10 straight wins against some teams that could turn out to be pretty good (I worry about Louisville and GT) means this team has come a long way. Winning on road at SEC is huge in itself, but we have the kind of momentum now that all of BK's twerking and accents could not achieve. He was an excellent coach for us, and that should not be denied. But MF really is relatable, and decent, and talented (although watching him learn on the job was sometimes painful). And now we have Shane Gillis (we need to get him to a game) and Pat Macafee and Herbie and his dog on our side. Can youuu smeelll what the Coach is cookin!!
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