Who we all rooting for this weekend

[IowaIrish1]

Hold my nose and root for SC and hope Pitt, Temple and Stanford keep winning.

Still 10 undefeated Power 5 schools left. MSU has a possible tricky game here with Indiana, especially after that game last week.

Clemson on the road at Miami. Miami not great by any means, but has a decent shot at an upset.

Western Kentucky would need to play flawless football and hope for some LSU turnovers to pull an upset. Long shot here.

Georgia Tech plays FSU. GT looks terrible thus far. If Cook is healthy for FSU I don't see any chance here. If you haven't seen Cook play, he has a gear that you don't see very often. Second best back in CFB, imo.

Rutgers playing OSU. Would be awesome to see and with this OSU team I won't say no chance for an upset, but it's really long.

Iowa St taking on Baylor. The only question is, does ISU cover the 37? Highly doubtful

Also, Tenn going to Bama. Would love this one!!!! Miss those great matchups with the Irish and Vols.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Georgia Tech vs FSU. I'm hoping GT's unique offense continues to give fits to FSU. FSU had trouble with one play in particular last year.

I think GT has a legit shot at an upset.

 

[lyonhawk]

I honestly think we're just rooting for everyone ahead of us who isn't Clemson or Stanford to lose. We also need Temple and Pitt to keep winning. An undefeated Clemson is very good for us. At the end of the season, if our only loss is to an undefeated ACC champ, on the road, at night, in a monsoon, by 2 on a missed 2 pt conversion that looks good for us. Add in hopefully quality wins against Stanford, Pitt, and Temple and we might be talking especially if Stanford can then win the PAC-12.

 

[jsbailey324]

Iowa State very rarely covers vs a bye week, nonetheless Baylor. (Go Hawks)

 

[ThunderStorm21]

MSU to lose. USC to win. Stanford to win. I absolutely hate Bama so I hope for an upset. I also absolutely hate OSU and hope for an upset. Clemson to run through the ACC. GT to lose. Some good games to check out this weekend. I'm excited to see if Ole Miss can turn it around against A&M.

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

The longer the undefeateds stay undefeated before losing, the better. ND will benefit from the old adage about "if you're going to lose, lose early".

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Not sure why any ND fan wants Clemson to lose. An undefeated Clemson ACC champ gets in for sure. A one loss Clemson ACC champ will get in before ND with the head-head win. Would rather Clemson just be guaranteed in and not have ND fighting for the final spot with a team they lost to.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Not sure why any ND fan wants Clemson to lose. An undefeated Clemson ACC champ gets in for sure. A one loss Clemson ACC champ will get in before ND with the head-head win. Would rather Clemson just be guaranteed in and not have ND fighting for the final spot with a team they lost to.

What if Clemson loses twice? That opens a spot for ND.

 

[perseverare]

What if Clemson loses twice? That opens a spot for ND.

well FSU has to lose also. And Bama or LSU need to lose 2.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

If Clemson loses twice the value of the loss to Clemson is diminished and the SOS takes a hit.

 

[basketlax41]

Not sure why any ND fan wants Clemson to lose. An undefeated Clemson ACC champ gets in for sure. A one loss Clemson ACC champ will get in before ND with the head-head win. Would rather Clemson just be guaranteed in and not have ND fighting for the final spot with a team they lost to.

I disagree with this. Nd is quasi ACC. No way the committee lets two acc teams in final four. No chance IMHO. And I'm not positive we don't get in over a one loss Clemson team. Especially if it's a bad loss, either becaus of opponent or score. I believe similar things happened last year in how the committee ranked the final teams. One of the big 12 teams was ahead in the final rankings of another big 12 team that beat them. Committee will look at score, venue, qbs first road start, trajectory of team since, etc.

And besides a one loss Clemson team is that much closer to a two loss Clemson team.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Thinks the B12 situation and this one are uniquely different because of the similar schedules TCU & Baylor have. If Clemson loses a game but still win the ACC I don't see how they get jumped by ND with the loss. Further, the more losses Clemson has at the end of the year the less value the loss to Clemson has.

 

[Toby Smart]

I wish upon a star for all of ND's opponents to win and Navy and the Indiana Hoosiers. I was all set to throw in the Cubs but they will spend the next few months thinking about the last few days.

 

[LGPazu]

Not sure why any ND fan wants Clemson to lose. An undefeated Clemson ACC champ gets in for sure. A one loss Clemson ACC champ will get in before ND with the head-head win. Would rather Clemson just be guaranteed in and not have ND fighting for the final spot with a team they lost to.

That makes too much sense for most people

 

[LGPazu]

I disagree with this. Nd is quasi ACC. No way the committee lets two acc teams in final four. No chance IMHO. And I'm not positive we don't get in over a one loss Clemson team. Especially if it's a bad loss, either becaus of opponent or score. I believe similar things happened last year in how the committee ranked the final teams. One of the big 12 teams was ahead in the final rankings of another big 12 team that beat them. Committee will look at score, venue, qbs first road start, trajectory of team since, etc.

And besides a one loss Clemson team is that much closer to a two loss Clemson team.

So are you saying there are different rules for the ACC and SEC? Wink Wink

 

[FightingIrish44]

If Clemson loses twice the value of the loss to Clemson is diminished and the SOS takes a hit.

Yeah, and they will still have won 10-11 with two losses and we will have still lost to them. That opens up a whole spot for sure if they lose 2, but if they win out, we're fighting for one of three spots, instead of one of four?

Do you agree with that? I'm legitimately curious.

 

[LGPazu]

Yeah, and they will still have won 10-11 with two losses and we will have still lost to them. That opens up a whole spot for sure if they lose 2, but if they win out, we're fighting for one of three spots, instead of one of four?

Do you agree with that? I'm legitimately curious.

Think of it in simple terms. If we lost to Clemson and they lose two games, hoe do we justify getting into the playoffs? Even if they lose 1 game,they still beat us, so we will not move ahead of them.

 

[NDSMC78]

Think of it in simple terms. If we lost to Clemson and they lose two games, hoe do we justify getting into the playoffs? Even if they lose 1 game,they still beat us, so we will not move ahead of them.

Most rational people would put a one loss ND team ahead of a two loss Clemson team. This, of course, leaves you out.

 

[LGPazu]

Most rational people would put a one loss ND team ahead of a two loss Clemson team. This, of course, leaves you out.

AGAIN, NO READING COMPREHENSION SCHOLMO

 

[Bumpdaddy]

If Clemson loses twice the value of the loss to Clemson is diminished and the SOS takes a hit.

I disagree with this. A two loss Clemson team will still be a ranked team. Right now our loss is the best loss of any other one-loss team and not just because Clemson is highly regarded. The fact we played them on their turf in a monsoon and only lost by 2 when we couldn't convert a 2pt conversion at the end of game is a mitigating factor that will be hard to ignore. It's unlikely any other team will have a better loss than that. That's not to say that will be the most important factor at the end of the season. The committee values quality wins at least as much as a quality loss (if that's the right way to say it). But if Clemson wins the ACC with 2 losses it is still unlikely they get in ahead of a one loss ND. Overall record will likely trump head to head. There are many other scenarios, obviously, but I think Clemson losing twice would actually help us because it would eliminate one more team from playoff contention.

 

[LGPazu]

I disagree with this. A two loss Clemson team will still be a ranked team. Right now our loss is the best loss of any other one-loss team and not just because Clemson is highly regarded. The fact we played them on their turf in a monsoon and only lost by 2 when we couldn't convert a 2pt conversion at the end of game is a mitigating factor that will be hard to ignore. It's unlikely any other team will have a better loss than that. That's not to say that will be the most important factor at the end of the season. The committee values quality wins at least as much as a quality loss (if that's the right way to say it). But if Clemson wins the ACC with 2 losses it is still unlikely they get in ahead of a one loss ND. Overall record will likely trump head to head. There are many other scenarios, obviously, but I think Clemson losing twice would actually help us because it would eliminate one more team from playoff contention.

I never said a 2 loss Clemson team would get in ahead of us. I said a 1 loss Clemson team would be ranked higher. jeez. When I talked about a 2 loss Clemson team, I was referring to the fact that losing to them would not be a quality loss. It is about SOS.

 

[Bumpdaddy]

I never said a 2 loss Clemson team would get in ahead of us. I said a 1 loss Clemson team would be ranked higher. jeez

A little sensitive aren't you? If you look closely you'll notice I was responding to another poster's post, not yours. To address your stance, I agree. A one loss Clemson would be problematic but I wasn't talking about a one loss Clemson.

 

[Bodizephax]

Thinks the B12 situation and this one are uniquely different because of the similar schedules TCU & Baylor have. If Clemson loses a game but still win the ACC I don't see how they get jumped by ND with the loss. Further, the more losses Clemson has at the end of the year the less value the loss to Clemson has.

The committee could care less about good losses. They said so and ranked ND lower then the coaches and AP after the Florida State loss. Look at Alabamas loss to Ole Miss---Ole Miss already has two losses--one loss against a nonpower 5 conference.
The committee put more value in Good wins.

 

[LGPazu]

The committee could care less about good losses. They said so and ranked ND lower then the coaches and AP after the Florida State loss. Look at Alabamas loss to Ole Miss---Ole Miss already has two losses--one loss against a nonpower 5 conference.
The committee put more value in Good wins.

So since we don't have any...Unless you consider Navy as the only team above 500, it is not looking good.

 

[Bodizephax]

So since we don't have any...Unless you consider Navy as the only team above 500, it is not looking good.