Did you refuse to pay a lost wager?Hilarious stuff here 🤣🤣🤣
You can't take it. You like to dish but when the screws get turned on you you really don't like that lol
You're soft
Did you refuse to pay a lost wager?Hilarious stuff here 🤣🤣🤣
You can't take it. You like to dish but when the screws get turned on you you really don't like that lol
You're soft
I know you doYou think I care what you think? I have news for you, I don't. Only a few people in my life do I care what they think, the rest, I could care less.
No lol. Patty lost the wager. People on here called him on changing what the bet actually was like Patty normally does.Did you refuse to pay a lost wager?
Pot meet kettle. Look in the mirror. you've been starting with me. You can't help it, You're the one with over 25 thousand posts on this forum alone in a 5 year period. You clearly have no life outside of the internet forums. You are a troll and you lack integrity. Are you ever going to pay the money you owe PatIrish the money you owe him on the bet you lost?I know you do
Because you can't stop talking to me and about me. It's constant and also very weird
Even when you say you are going to stop and I don't say anything to you, you end up talking about me within a day
Very weird
WHY do you continue to lie and try to change what you declared ?I didnt say anything about coaching
Learn to read. I honestly think you miss a lit because other people don't write in bold so you don't really see what was said
I'll repeat for the last time very clearly. If I want someone to make point spreads I'll go with Vegas
If I want someone to evaluate and rank teams I'll go with former coaches. Starting with Saban and Meyer
That's as simple and clear as it could possibly be. If up can't read that and understand, oh well. I think even your bf from jersey could understand that
I NEVER lost a wager, YOU LOST !No lol. Patty lost the wager. People on here called him on changing what the bet actually was like Patty normally does.
We kept going back and forth and other posters called him on it too and then the thread got shut down....
I dont know if it was Patty that reported the wager or what but he was looking bad and it got shut down
I never bet on that 🤣🤣🤣. You foolI NEVER lost a wager, YOU LOST !
I substantiated every statement I made by providing documented evidence to NDinNJ
You’re a liar and a fraud
That’s correct, the problem is they don’t watch every game, and there’s an inherent bias in their voting.These are the COACHES that vote weekly on RANKING college football teams.
The US LBM Board of Coaches for the 2024 season: Tim Albin, Ohio; Major Applewhite, South Alabama; Tim Beck, Coastal Carolina; Mike Bloomgren, Rice; David Braun, Northwestern; Jeff Brohm, Louisville; Fran Brown, Syracuse; Neal Brown, West Virginia; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Jamey Chadwell, Liberty; Bob Chesney, James Madison; Chris Creighton, Eastern Michigan; Sonny Cumbie, Louisiana Tech; Spencer Danielson, Boise State; Ryan Day, Ohio State; Kalen DeBoer, Alabama; Kenny Dillingham, Arizona State; Eliah Drinkwitz, Missouri; Mike Elko, Texas A&M; Tony Elliott, Virginia; Jedd Fisch, Washington; James Franklin, Penn State; Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame; Willie Fritz, Houston; Alex Golesh, South Florida; Tyson Helton, Western Kentucky; Mike Houston, East Carolina; Butch Jones, Arkansas State; Brent Key, Georgia Tech; GJ Kinne, Texas State; Chris Klieman, Kansas State; Dan Lanning, Oregon; Rhett Lashlee, SMU; Clark Lea, Vanderbilt; Lance Leipold, Kansas; Pete Lembo, Buffalo; Sean Lewis, San Diego State; Mike Locksley, Maryland; Mike MacIntyre, Florida International; Gus Malzahn, Central Florida; Chuck Martin, Miami (Ohio); Derek Mason, Middle Tennessee; Joey McGuire, Texas Tech; Bronco Mendenhall, New Mexico; Jeff Monken, Army; Pat Narduzzi, Pittsburgh; Ken Niumatalolo, San Jose State; Barry Odom, UNLV; Gerad Parker, Troy; Brent Pry, Virginia Tech; Kirby Smart, Georgia; Mark Stoops, Kentucky; Jon Sumrall, Tulane; Lance Taylor, Western Michigan; Jeff Traylor, Texas-San Antonio.
I’m well aware that IrishJohn lost every bet,I never bet on that 🤣🤣🤣. You fool
That was IrishJohn
You two can't keep your shit together
Two freaking idiots here
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No. I made fun of you about it and still would.I’m well aware that IrishJohn lost every bet,
But you jumped on the bandwagon as well
I see, so you admit to making fun of me on those issues, but that you were afraid to bet me on the issues that you were making fun of.No. I made fun of you about it and still would.
But I didn't bet on anything with that nonsense
I don't bet things on I don't know about nor care aboutI see, so you admit to making fun of me on those issues, but that you were afraid to bet me on the issues that you were making fun of.
That sounds pretty cowardly !
So you now admit that you didn’t know about it, but you still made fun of it.I don't bet things on I don't know about nor care about
I do like making fun of you though
Funny how NJ thought I lost a bet I was never apart of though
He doesn't bet on anything because he's a coward. He claims Riley Leonard has 1st round talent, yet refuses to bet that Riley Leonard will be drafted in the 1st round. 1st round talent gets drafted in the 1st round, otherwise they don't have 1st round talent.So you now admit that you didn’t know about it, but you still made fun of it.
That’s the height of ignorance !
No surprise there !
Yes I made fun of you for talking about your personal life on an internet message board. It was hilarious to meSo you now admit that you didn’t know about it, but you still made fun of it.
That’s the height of ignorance !
No surprise there !
Oh before you said I did make a bet and lost.He doesn't bet on anything because he's a coward. He claims Riley Leonard has 1st round talent, yet refuses to bet that Riley Leonard will be drafted in the 1st round. 1st round talent gets drafted in the 1st round, otherwise they don't have 1st round talent.
When you were “ making fun of me” your tone wasn’t jovial, it was critical and you jumped on IrishJohn’s bandwagon with your criticisms and challengesYes I made fun of you for talking about your personal life on an internet message board. It was hilarious to me
Anyone who claims that Saban and Meyer watch every game and know more about creating spreads and ranking teams is a total moron.He doesn't bet on anything because he's a coward. He claims Riley Leonard has 1st round talent, yet refuses to bet that Riley Leonard will be drafted in the 1st round. 1st round talent gets drafted in the 1st round, otherwise they don't have 1st round talent.
You are so high on him and his talent, plus you claim to be great at evaluating talent, so why care so confident, why won't you bet that he gets drafted in the first round?Oh before you said I did make a bet and lost.
Now at least you admit you lied out of your ass like you do about most things
I've offered many bets on here. Most people turn them down. I won one that another poster was supposed to donate the money to a charity because I said I didn't need the money. Hope he did.
Your comment about 1st round talent and getting drafted in the first rd is still one of your dumber ones. And there's a lot.
Just stop lying and making things up. At least if you're going to run your mouth, at least try to be accurate next time
You keep saying about spreads. Something I have never said or brought up or care about.Anyone who claims that Saban and Meyer watch every game and know more about creating spreads and ranking teams is a total moron.
Anyone making that claim is just revealing how little they know when it comes to determining who is best qualified to create odds and rank teams.
In fact, it’s beyond embarrassing, it’s humiliating and a sign of complete ignorance
I never said he was going to be drafted in the 1st round. And you can't pull up anywhere where I said that because I did not. I don't know where he will get drafted so I would not make that betYou are so high on him and his talent, plus you claim to be great at evaluating talent, so why care so confident, why won't you bet that he gets drafted in the first round?
How about the 1st two rounds?
Vegas does a really good job creating an initial spread to attract bettors on both sides. I don’t bet games so have zero knowledge of what Vegas does or doesn’t do relative to ranking teams. I know they establish spreads and over under totals for individual matchups, but have they ever ranked teams?That’s correct, the problem is they don’t watch every game, and there’s an inherent bias in their voting.
And, Vegas is eminently more qualified to rank the teams
I didn’t confine my comments to “spreads”, I was clear in that I specifically included and referenced “ranking the teams”You keep saying about spreads. Something I have never said or brought up or care about.
But you continue to keep saying it. Reminds me of Kamala saying things Trump said but he never actually said.
So you can continue to say that over and over, doesn't make it true Kamala
I'll repeat this again for the dopes in the back:
If I am ranking teams, I would choose former coaches to rank teams. Starting with Saban and Meyer and go from there
If I am making spreads, I'll go with the guys in Vegas
You can try to spin that anyway you like to Kamala, but that's what I've said from the jump
And I stand by that 100 percent
How do you really feel?I didn’t confine my comments to “spreads”, I was clear in that I specifically included and referenced “ranking the teams”
You incorrectly replied that Vegas didn’t rank teams, displaying your ignorance relating to Vegas and football.
Vegas does rank teams, NFL and college
So when I stated that Vegas should be the ones ranking the teams because they have no bias and they are the most qualified to do so, you disagreed and stated that others “who know the game, who watch every game” are more qualified.
So I asked you to identify, the people “who know the game, who watch every game”
And you cited Saban and Meyer, neither of which watch every game and neither of which know how to rank the teams.
So again, I’ll ask you, who are the people who watch every game, identify them
So let’s start with this, you can admit that you don’t know what you’re talking about and you can admit that you don’t know anybody who watches every game.
Alternatively, you can try to substantiate your absurd and ignorant claim by naming those individuals you referenced, the ones who you said watch every game
Sure, for starters, as soon as Golson5 identifies the people he referenced, who he claimed watched every college game.Can’t we all just get along?
If I want to rank teams, I'm choosing Saban and Meyer and former coaches.I didn’t confine my comments to “spreads”, I was clear in that I specifically included and referenced “ranking the teams”
You incorrectly replied that Vegas didn’t rank teams, displaying your ignorance relating to Vegas and football.
Vegas does rank teams, NFL and college
So when I stated that Vegas should be the ones ranking the teams because they have no bias and they are the most qualified to do so, you disagreed and stated that others “who know the game, who watch every game” are more qualified.
So I asked you to identify, the people “who know the game, who watch every game”
And you cited Saban and Meyer, neither of which watch every game and neither of which know how to rank the teams.
So again, I’ll ask you, who are the people who watch every game, identify them
So let’s start with this, you can admit that you don’t know what you’re talking about and you can admit that you don’t know anybody who watches every game.
Alternatively, you can try to substantiate your absurd and ignorant claim by naming those individuals you referenced, the ones who you said watch every game
Guys like Saban and Meyer and any head coach for that matter have inherent biases. I would be far more comfortable with Las Vegas, who makes a serious living ranking teams, and setting odds on games.If I want to rank teams, I'm choosing Saban and Meyer and former coaches.
If I wantto make spreads, I'll take Vegas
They know the game much more than people in Vegas.Guys like Saban and Meyer and any head coach for that matter have inherent biases. I would be far more comfortable with Las Vegas, who makes a serious living ranking teams, and setting odds on games.
I listen to a Las Vegas betting radio show weekly. It’s far more than a computer.They know the game much more than people in Vegas.
With Vegas you have computers ranking teams and you'll get a 4 loss Ole Miss team in because their metrics look good
I trust the people who have played and coached the games and know ball
Who are the people that are watching their games then? And can you name them?I listen to a Las Vegas betting radio show weekly. It’s far more than a computer.
Yes, they know far more than Saban and Meyer when it comes to handicapping the teamsWho are the people that are watching their games then? And can you name them?
Then ask yourself, do those people know more about football than people like Saban Meyer etc
They only know how to coach, they don’t have a clue when it comes to handicapping and ranking teamdThey know the game much more than people in Vegas.
With Vegas you have computers ranking teams and you'll get a 4 loss Ole Miss team in because their metrics look good
I trust the people who have played and coached the games and know ball
You’re beyond stupidIf I want to rank teams, I'm choosing Saban and Meyer and former coaches.
If I wantto make spreads, I'll take Vegas
If I want someone to handicap a game I'll take VegasYou’re beyond stupid
Saban and Maher don’t watch every game and they don’t have a clue when it comes to handicaping.
Did you forget, you said that you need people who watch every game and neither one of them watch every game
You’re a fraud
It will last for as long as it takes for them to come up with a more LUCRATIVE format. This is about one thing and ONE THING ONLY:I’m sitting here looking at the conferences, and I’m sorry but there is no way the B12 should get an automatic qualifier.
ISU is 7-0, with their best win being a 1 point win over Iowa, and likely won’t play a ranked team until the conference championship. BYU will only have faced one ranked team themselves if they go to the conference championship.
Imagine KSU, ISU, BYU having to play in the SEC against Texas, UGA, LSU, A&M, Bama, Tennessee, Ole Miss, etc.. honestly, I’d probably take Mizzou over them too, and maybe even South Carolina, and Arkansas on neutral fields. I don’t think any of those teams would finish in the top three or four of the B1G either. Not over Oregon, OSU, PSU, they likely match up better with the second tier of Illinois, Indiana, Washington, Wisconsin. USC has 3 losses and I’f probably take them over all of them too.
Same goes for the ACC, I think Clemson is still an excellent program but who else? Miami? Until they live up to the hype for once it’s hard for me to take them seriously.
Pitt, Syracuse, SMU? None of these teams has played anyone with a pulse.
I know a lot of this will work itself out but the automatic bids are silly, it should be the top 12 and that’s it.