The Coach who doesn't coach??
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Brey doesn't develop players .... Torin Francis ? ... Chris Thomas? .... ring any bells ? .... once again .... you have to coach them ... Brey is nothing more than the face of the program ... I expect such statements that reflect a complete lack of understanding how the ND bball program operates
5 mins? ... it's about right .... How much time do I have to waste on clowns who are so damn angry all the time and spew ignorance .... it's about 5 minutes ... my job I assure you earns more than your 5th grade education .... I bet Walmart employees know Hawaii is in the USA? ... what does that say about you? ... LOL!
I love these classy posts .... filled with such venom as well .... grrrrrr ..... I don't have to call every play .... but calling one play in 17 years wouldn't be too much to ask would it? .... so angry ... LOL!
You apparently don't watch much bball ... I haven't seen a coach get raked by commentators .... ever .... and they like Brey ... he is a likeable guy .... slamming coaches is not what they do ..... duh
And you know what's great...you have learned how the ND bball program operates from never being in a gym....never being at a ND game or practice. You have learned all this from sitting on a barstool!!! Simply amazing. And from this same barstool you have learned how to run the ND football program as well....because WE all know you have an extensive background in coaching football as well....
I am still waiting for that one out of bounds play...why don't you describe it for me? I am always looking for new plays to put in my system. So tell the masses here about the same OB play ND has run for 17 yrs...c'mom...even you can diagram an ob play...so let's hear about it...
There is not one other poster on this board who shares your opinion of brey. You've painted yourself into a corner with your completely inaccurate portrayal of his coaching ability. Feel free to keep banging your head against the wall. Its not even funny anymore,just pathetic.
C'mon Echo....have a little fun. I love being called an angry old man(I am 34), an angry little ankle biter and a clown...it's hilarious. Remember last year...anyone who disagreed with the moron was called a "Homer"? I still haven't figured out what that is....but you are correct....not even one poster remotely comes close to agreeing with him...."Lots of people agree with me!" LMAO!!! Not to mention having 23 aliases....
In case you didn't notice this is an ND board .... with ND fans .... naturally not all ND fans have a clue ... not to mention the admin demonstarted 15 years ago they don't care about the program .... 15 years ago and ever since .... most detractors vacated over 10 years ago ... why would they come back when nothing has changed .... this board proves being a fan doesn't mean you know anything .... blind stupidity ... added to anger ... duh
I'll give you Brey's one and only play for 17 years ... Give the ball to our best player top of the key ... everyone get out of the way .... it's genius right? ... because Brey is a genius .... LOL!
The clown show is the only one who cares ... same guys who defend Brian Kelly .... seriously! .... doesn't get dumber than that
You like being "pegged" ... and so accurately I might add that you go into swearing tirades .... LOL!
King of back- pedaling...I asked for the ob play and of course you skip to some other drivel. You expect people to think you are an expert....yet you can't even describe one out of bounds play that you say(no one else) ND has been running for 17 years. As expected...you don't know shit about coaching. And I guess if I tune in tonite the only thing I will see is ND in a 1-4 low set with a player going one-on-one? That's what you just posted, right? So for 17 years that's the only play ND has run? You expect people to believe that ND has gotten to 2 straight Elite 8's and won an ACC title, won multiple games against 3 HOF coaches in their own gyms by running 1 play all the time....Echo is correct....you truly are pathetic. And immensely ignorant. I don't recall anyone ever saying Brey is a genius, but compared to you he is f...ing Einstein!
Strange that Bug doesn't recognize OOB plays - I see many every game. Some are more successful than others. Has anyone ever seen screens where our big gets a layup right under the basket? How about when we run multiple screens to line up for an open jumper? How about when we screen across the lane and the other team does a good job covering so we have to go deep over the D to get it in?
Yes, we play basketball against other teams who also have coaches and good players so our plays don't always work exactly as drawn up - that is why there are several options off of the progression.
I like how our guys are coached really well so it doesn't require as much in-game instruction. When teams are coached well and know what to do, they play with confidence.
When I coached kids basketball, the first thing I had my team learn was the after game handshake so they learned sportsmanship. The second thing they learned was a very crisp warm-up before the game so they were confident getting on the court leading up to the tip-off.
With limited practice time, I had to draw up plays on the fly at times. But often in a timeout, I would let them know that we were doing a play they already knew - and then I would tell them how they were going to be successful doing it because they knew it so well.
Coaching is certainly part Xs and Os and fundamentals, but it is critically important to have a team ready to play. ND just executes across the board and has fun doing it.
Yes, we play basketball against other teams who also have coaches and good players so our plays don't always work exactly as drawn up - that is why there are several options off of the progression.
I like how our guys are coached really well so it doesn't require as much in-game instruction. When teams are coached well and know what to do, they play with confidence.
When I coached kids basketball, the first thing I had my team learn was the after game handshake so they learned sportsmanship. The second thing they learned was a very crisp warm-up before the game so they were confident getting on the court leading up to the tip-off.
With limited practice time, I had to draw up plays on the fly at times. But often in a timeout, I would let them know that we were doing a play they already knew - and then I would tell them how they were going to be successful doing it because they knew it so well.
Coaching is certainly part Xs and Os and fundamentals, but it is critically important to have a team ready to play. ND just executes across the board and has fun doing it.
The moron doesn't recognize oob plays because he doesn't know any....he only watches games from a barstool and bitches. Like he just posted....any person on this website who is an ND fan and likes Brey is clueless and stupid. It's pretty easy to see why this jerk is the most hated person on this website...and more than likely in real life.
Good post. Basketball, especially at the college level, is about executing simple things in a 10-15 second period and then having a plan for when the shot clock goes under 8 seconds. With my guys we prepare for the defenses we are going to see, in the past I had no issues with my pt gd calling out 1or 2 sets that we had gone over in practice. Any specials I want, I call. OB plays the same thing, it's decided before the game what we will run ob, If i want something different I will call it. ND plays the same way...but shit-for-brains thinks that people plunk down $25 bucks to see him call plays...make things easy, quick and simple. Players execute better and enjoy doing it.
Syracuse game last week is the prime example....ND gets off the plane after Fla St and the next 2 days they go to the gym. Everyone in the world knows they are going to 2-3 zone. So for 2 days you run 2-3 sets against it, come game day the players know what to run so if they call a set that they have run a hundred times so be it...it happens in the college game all the time. I didn't see the Syr. game as my team was playing....but in my game I bet I made 2 calls the entire first half, both side out plays. We saw m-t-m the entire half, my pt gd new from practicing for 4 hrs on Thurs/Fri what sets I wanted. Our entire offense goes easily from our early offense into our sets into our ten and under stuff. He also knew what I wanted run in the under 10 sec. phase. As long as he called what we practiced, I play 9 guys so if all have practiced it...i let it go. And everyone in my league plays the same way, and when I get the chance to watch other teams play they do the same things now....it's what gets done in practice that matters....but of course sitting on a barstool you won't learn that...
It isn't low ... more like a handoff with a high pick n roll ... pick and roll optional .... it is everyone get the hell out of the way ... either way there is never a 2nd option ... this player will force their way to the hoop and the shot if necessary
3 pages of posts for a guy that doesn't care what I say ... my we are worked up today .... grrrrrrr
Hey why don't you print off this post and show to your buddies like the other one ..LOL!
Who would've thought to practice for the 2-3 zone against a team that has played only that D for the last 20 years ... seriously? .... you even have to have this conversation ... you CAN learn THIS from a barstool ... hilarious what stupid thinks is smart ... you geniuses can carry on now ... LOL!
You actually drew up a play ... then you must have a whiteboard .... could you please apply for head coaching job at ND ... you are apparently more qualified ... seriously .. the next play that gets drawn up on the sidelines by an ND head coach will be the 1st one in 17 years
It isn't low ... more like a handoff with a high pick n roll ... pick and roll optional .... it is everyone get the hell out of the way ... either way there is never a 2nd option ... this player will force their way to the hoop and the shot if necessary
3 pages of posts for a guy that doesn't care what I say ... my we are worked up today .... grrrrrrr
Hey why don't you print off this post and show to your buddies like the other one ..LOL!
So why not explain to me what your offense would look like against a 2-3? Why not explain to me what you would run at the end of the shot clock against M-T-M? And how about that oopb play you say ND runs for the past 17 years? You can't even describe that? So how is anyone here supposed to believe that you have any idea of how to coach a bball team.
Watched a ton of hoops last nite....check out the last 5 minutes of the Nova/Marquette game....EVERY POSSESSION....BOTH TEAMS....HIGH PICK and Roll.....Check out Purdue/Mich St.....both teams run high screen and roll at the end of the shot clock. Purdue sometimes runs 2 guys at the elbow because they run a ton of 3 around 2 stuff....every game I coach in the opponent runs high/screen roll at the end of the shot clock....I run it all the time unless I have 2 bigs in the game...so let me know what magic offense you have...YOU GOT NOTHING! Cuz you don't know shit. No go ahead and backpedal and tell me about my supposed aliases, Hawaii. and WiFi...you are a fake....and you can't disprove it.
Mike breys body of work is the only evidence anyone needs to counter your outlandish,uneducated opinions of his coaching abilities.
Hey...the dude is working hard to get A EDUCATION! Echo...I know you were sick...but you shoulda been around in FB seasom....he knows more than Kelly too....
You mean like losing to Holy Cross at home in the NIT ? ..... talk about uneducated
You like my ob ploy .... suddenly I'm backpedalling .... LOL! .... sorry I actually have an important job that doesn't leave time for watching bball .... apparently you have lots .... not a surprise .... maybe you should study a geography book and find a map so you can see where Hawaii is .... fake? ... you mean like your aliases who share your office with one computer .... at least Dillon has a white board and has drawn up a play before ...
Recognizing a high screen and roll is really impressive .... ???? .... seriously ??? .... yes people run it ... but not only that at crunch time for 17 years .... duh ... you keep trying to prove your smart and achieve the opposite .... everyone bow down before the guy who KNOWS what a high pick and roll is ...... LOL!
Wow a coach loses a home game ! Alert the media, that's never happened before anywhere.
To a team that doesn't give out athletic scholarships ... the clown show only remembers the last 2 years .... not the previous 15
Coming from someone who thinks it is impressive to point out a high pick and roll .... I doubt anyone is scared of you ... LOL!
He never lost any at ND to teams that don't give out athletic scholarships .... LOL!
Thanks so much for the plays...I knew you didn't know any. Just proves how much of a fake and a fraud you are. But tell ya what I am gonna do for you...I am putting in this out-of-bounds play at practice this afternoon. I will use it in tomorrows game...totally in your honor....under our basket vs. m-t-m....4 guys get in a box set, since you probably don't know what a box set is that means one guy on the block over the ball, another guy on the other block. That block is known as the weakside, (seeing how stupid you are.) The other 2 players are on the elbows at the foul-line...now here's the play: When we slap the ball(that signals the start of the ob play, I am sure you didn't know that) all 4 players on the floor will bend over and attempt to stick their heads up their ass. (Now I will tell them that I don't expect them to be able to stick their heads up their butt as far as you can...that's impossible.) When the opponent sees this, it will cause them to start laughing uncontrollably and lose focus. One of my guys will then cut to the hoop while the opponent is not watching for a lay-up. I was gonna call the play "Shithead" in your honor but seeing that I get a bunch or priests at my games and little kids I can't do that. So I will call the play Hawaii!!!!
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