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Some Projections show Alabama in and Miami out

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I sure hope the committee doesn’t put Bama in the CFP. Some pundits have them in over Miami. Also, doesn’t SMU deserve to be ahead of Georgia in the rankings? Georgia got their asses kicked at home for 3 quarters by a middling ACC team and needed 8 OTs to win. How can they move up?
 
I sure hope the committee doesn’t put Bama in the CFP. Some pundits have them in over Miami. Also, doesn’t SMU deserve to be ahead of Georgia in the rankings? Georgia got their asses kicked at home for 3 quarters by a middling ACC team and needed 8 OTs to win. How can they move up?
Of course. Bama is the darling of cfb.
 
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For me, Alabama easily beats Miami in a key game. And can find form to challenge for a NC. Miami no way is so capable.

But I get 3 losses might keep the Tide out. The brand will help. Just like ND, you get something for that.

Alabama is a tough one for the committee. Let's see after next week. Checkpoint again.
 
I realize that we are NOT dealing with College Football standings, but rather College Football rankings...but somewhere along the line, the notion of one's record HAS to matter. Three losses, no matter who to (whom to?...NAH...sounds off) has to be given weight against a record with two losses.

Back to the idea of standings versus rankings, when an NFL team has three losses and another one has two, the team with two losses finishes ahead in terms of playoff eligibility/seeding...again, I recognize the difference, but records have to mean something when final decisions are being made...
 
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I realize that we are NOT dealing with College Football standings, but rather College Football rankings...but somewhere along the line, the notion of one's record HAS to matter. Three losses, no matter who to (whom to?...NAH...sounds off) has to be given weight against a record with two losses.

Back to the idea of standings versus rankings, when an NFL team has three losses and another one has two, the team with two losses finishes ahead in terms of playoff eligibility/seeding...again, I recognize the difference, but records have to mean something when final decisions are being made...


Welcome to the nebulous reality of balancing qualitative and statistical analysis. Obviously wins are weighed the most. But all rankings have to consider other factors like SOS...plainly obvious, right?

It's not easy on the margins. Especially when different leagues in college football vary so much in quality. In contrast to the NFL where wins and losses are more normalized due to more even quality of teams.

As I posted on other threads, selecting the last 4 is the toughest. The goal is to accurately select the top 10...being in the last 4 incurs the margin of error penalty for losing 2-3 times.

It's just the nature of reality there...some margin of error.
 
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Welcome to the nebulous reality of balancing qualitative and statistical analysis. Obviously wins are weighed the most. But all rankings have to consider other factors like SOS...plainly obvious, right?

It's not easy on the margins. Especially when different leagues in college football vary so much in quality. In contrast to the NFL where wins and losses are more normalized due to more even quality of teams.

As I posted on other threads, selecting the last 4 is the toughest. The goal is to accurately select the top 10...being in the last 4 incurs the margin of error penalty for losing 2-3 times.

It's just the nature of reality there...some margin of error.
I basically agree with you, but there is even margin for error in NFL records when schedules aren't balanced...and yet wins "win out" without considering SOS...my only point, SOS aside, if a POWER Four team has 10 wins, and another Power Four team has nine, it seems to me that the benefit of the doubt goes to the ten win team...just my bias I guess
 
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I said from day one when you have twelve teams in the playoffs you are going to get three losss teams; and its possible to get a four loss one as well.

Just like in the nfl we have had a fair number of losing teams making the playoffs because they won lousy divisions

That is why I wanted no more than eight teams in the playoffs; at a certain point its ridiculous who will get in.

I am also against automatic bids. If you win a conference that has a down year, you should not get in


This is supposed to get us the best team in college football. Not an above average team that gets hot for four games
 
I basically agree with you, but there is even margin for error in NFL records when schedules aren't balanced...and yet wins "win out" without considering SOS...my only point, SOS aside, if a POWER Four team has 10 wins, and another Power Four team has nine, it seems to me that the benefit of the doubt goes to the ten win team...just my bias I guess


Fair points. I just think the SOS differences aren't as big in the NFL. Not to be overly technical, but yes, the results are therefore more normalized vs college football.

The SEC if in my view is significantly stronger than the ACC, let alone the AAC. A 3 loss Alabama for me is better than a 2 loss Miami...although both get subject to that margin of error for not clearly being in the top 10.

Alabama or Miami is a toss up. Both in a sense asked for trouble...the kind of trouble ND avoided by beating USC.
 
When, with 3 losses and 2 weeks to go, they put Bama 1 spot out of the playoffs, they were really just reserving a seat at the table for them. The committee knew somebody would stumble and clear the way.

With Alabama at 12, I would expect them to still get overtaken by Big 12 champion.
 
I anticipate Alabama being ranked ahead of Miami. Hopefully Clemson wins the ACC so they get SMU and Clemson in the playoffs.

SMU deserves to be in regardless of what happens in the ACC champ game.
 
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I thought the same exact thing


Maybe.

But it’s not crazy either.

Not for a 1st post Saban season Alabama in a still tough SEC.

I could be wrong, but right now Alabama being in last 4 spots seems defensible.

I know it’s a volatile point, but have Miami, SMU, Illinois play the same schedule. Even for ND that might incur 2+ losses.

My gut says if Alabama gets in, they’ll be formidable. I wouldn’t want to play them game 1.
 
Why would Georgia move up? They were dominated for 3 quarters and took 8 OTs to win at home against a middling ACC team
 
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