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So....5 though 7 ?

If you believe you're good enough, you don't care about seedings. ND is in. That's what counts. A home playoff game is a nice bonus, which they appear to have locked up.
You do if you are lucky enough to get past the first round. Rather play AZ st or Boise over Oregon or GA.
 
That's quite the claim. Show me the data. Tell me who are the athletes that are saying... man we would've been Champs if we got the 1 seed instead of the 3? Once again, you can't prove it, cause no big time competitor says that. If you believe you're good enough, you are thrilled to be in the playoffs no matter what seed.

5 seed or 12 seed tmw, I'm just hyped ND is in the playoffs. And if they lose the first round, then there's no reason to be upset. It just proves they weren't good enough. Regardless of whom and where they play.

Here’s the head coach at IU saying it. High enough for you?

 

My real concern is that the committee doesn’t pair us with Indiana, thus negating the weather factor for our home game
 
Should PSU drop below OSU? I don’t like OSU but common opponent OU, OSU lost by 3 at OU, and beat PSU convincingly at their place.

PSU should probably be 8-9 seed.
 
My real concern is that the committee doesn’t pair us with Indiana, thus negating the weather factor for our home game
Pat, agree…but this is exactly the game I expect.
 
Pat, agree…but this is exactly the game I expect.

I can’t see how ND would be ranked higher than sixth, but I don’t trust the committee.

Having ND play Indiana bails the committee out because it removes any criticism of them sending a team from the south into South Bend on December 20th

We’ll see at noon
 
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I'd be pretty surprised if ND was ranked anything but 5th seed. The only question in my mind is who is #12/round 1 opponent?
 
ND is ranked #3 in today’s AP poll. Dinich has ND #7 seed playing IU.
 
PSU ranked # 3, ND ranked # 4

PSU losses and they stay ahead of ND ?

That would be insane !
 
ND is ranked #3 in today’s AP poll. Dinich has ND #7 seed playing IU.
The AP & CFP rankings have been pretty close to identical they are working off the same ranking methodology it seems. i'd be surprised if ND was not the 5th seed as a result.
 
The AP & CFP rankings have been pretty close to identical they are working off the same ranking methodology it seems. i'd be surprised if ND was not the 5th seed as a result.
Hard analyzing F+ influencing the committee rankings!
 
I'd be pretty surprised if ND was ranked anything but 5th seed. The only question in my mind is who is #12/round 1 opponent?
Georgia will probably leap frog ND

The question is how far will Texas and Penn State drop

With Penn State ranked # 3 and ND ranked # 4 and PSU losses I don’t see how it’s possible that Penn State would stay in front of Notre Dame

But I don’t trust the committee
 
I'm clueless on what might happen. And on what should be the rankings, aside from maybe 3 tiers of 4 teams. Then apply the rules on such rankings for seeds.

But my knee jerk so far is ND is in a great position if hosting a 1st round.

Indiana won't be the hardest opponent, even if cold weather hardened. Alabama would suffer a bit in the cold. Who else could ND play that would be a true favorite? I think ND at home 1st game is favored over any possible opponent right now.

Let's see. Pretty exciting stuff. I am thankful to MF, the coaches, and players for the achievement and entertainment...and giving us hope.
 
This is the crux of the argument. Bama is better, probably much better. But does this trump SMU's meritorious ranking?

Might as well toss a coin. Either pick is justified. It's not clear cut...even considering SOS, quality of losses and wins, and current form.

As I've been saying, if you're not clearly in the top 10, you risk margins of error. Be it SMU or Alabama.
Alabama played two fewer Power 4 opponents than SMU (Alabama played 9, SMU played 11).
 
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Tough road with the 7 seed, hope the boys are ready to handle Indiana then dispatch the sec champ.
 
Alabama played two fewer Power 4 opponents than SMU (Alabama played 9, SMU played 11).

Is that significant? Alabama beat lots of solid opponents: Georgia, LSU, Wisconsin, South Carolina. Vanderbilt and Tennessee were close losses. Only Oklahoma was a howler.

But if they flipped schedules with SMU, I believe Alabama might run the table. SMU would be worse off.

I'm just thinking out loud. Like I said, either can be justified as the last team in.
 
When did I say that a coach would purposely choose the harder path?
I gave you 2 options and you acted like you didn't know which one MF would choose. There was a harder path and an easier path. U know what you did

I think you saw on the faces of the players and MF when Espn showed them, they really wanted that 5 or 6 seed. Looked disappointed getting the 7
 
I gave you 2 options and you acted like you didn't know which one MF would choose. There was a harder path and an easier path. U know what you did

I think you saw on the faces of the players and MF when Espn showed them, they really wanted that 5 or 6 seed. Looked disappointed getting the 7
Motivation!
 
Here’s the head coach at IU saying it. High enough for you?

This only proves my point. If you read my previous comments, I'm referring to highly competitive multi-championship winners and those that have that mindset. I never said no one complains about seedings. There are plenty of coaches and players who complain. Lane Kiffin just did the other day. And are those the guys that are winning titles? My point is this: focus on preparing and winning and adopt a anytime, anywhere mindset, instead of focusing on something you can't control such as the committee's decision on seedings. Cause if you focus on seedings and complaining, then you won't win.
 
I gave you 2 options and you acted like you didn't know which one MF would choose. There was a harder path and an easier path. U know what you did

I think you saw on the faces of the players and MF when Espn showed them, they really wanted that 5 or 6 seed. Looked disappointed getting the 7
You didn't answer my question. When did I say that a coach would purposely choose the harder path? That's what you accused me of. Show me where I explicitly said that. After all, I'm a moron and disingenuous according to you. Lol.

And what is it I did? Disagree with you? Yes, absolutely I did that. Good observation.

If ND and Freeman are disappointed about being seeded 7th, then I'm concerned about how they're gonna perform in the playoffs. Time and time again, ND creditability has been questioned due to not winning when it matters most.
 
You didn't answer my question. When did I say that a coach would purposely choose the harder path? That's what you accused me of. Show me where I explicitly said that. After all, I'm a moron and disingenuous according to you. Lol.

And what is it I did? Disagree with you? Yes, absolutely I did that. Good observation.

If ND and Freeman are disappointed about being seeded 7th, then I'm concerned about how they're gonna perform in the playoffs. Time and time again, ND creditability has been questioned due to not winning when it matters most.
Winning is difficult, winning when it matters most is even more difficult.
Sometimes your opponent is the better team.

I think about the Buffalo Bills and the Minnesota Vikings, great teams, but they fell short

Getting to the national championship four times in 12 years is pretty impressive
And when you consider Notre Dame’s academic standards, it’s even more impressive

Of the 134 teams in division Only 12 teams make the playoffs and only 1 team will be the national champion.

No matter what happens going forward, this has been a very successful season

Let’s hope it gets even better

Go Irish ! ☘️
 
This only proves my point. If you read my previous comments, I'm referring to highly competitive multi-championship winners and those that have that mindset. I never said no one complains about seedings. There are plenty of coaches and players who complain. Lane Kiffin just did the other day. And are those the guys that are winning titles? My point is this: focus on preparing and winning and adopt a anytime, anywhere mindset, instead of focusing on something you can't control such as the committee's decision on seedings. Cause if you focus on seedings and complaining, then you won't win.

Not exactly what you were saying though. At all

Ok though
 
You didn't answer my question. When did I say that a coach would purposely choose the harder path? That's what you accused me of. Show me where I explicitly said that. After all, I'm a moron and disingenuous according to you. Lol.

And what is it I did? Disagree with you? Yes, absolutely I did that. Good observation.

If ND and Freeman are disappointed about being seeded 7th, then I'm concerned about how they're gonna perform in the playoffs. Time and time again, ND creditability has been questioned due to not winning when it matters most.
When you said you didn't know which option MF would take that's when you said it. You acted stupid like duhh I don't know what option MF would take, the harder option or easier option, uhh duhh

Michigan was upset last year when they got Bama in 1st round. Remember that story lol. The team looked depressed they got Bama instead of FSU

But they don't care about who they have to play right 🤣
 
Winning is difficult, winning when it matters most is even more difficult.
Sometimes your opponent is the better team.

I think about the Buffalo Bills and the Minnesota Vikings, great teams, but they fell short

Getting to the national championship four times in 12 years is pretty impressive
And when you consider Notre Dame’s academic standards, it’s even more impressive

Of the 134 teams in division Only 12 teams make the playoffs and only 1 team will be the national champion.

No matter what happens going forward, this has been a very successful season

Let’s hope it gets even better

Go Irish ! ☘️

Yes, it has been a successful season.

It is ironic to me that just three months ago we had that terrible loss to NIU and here we are now arguing about whether we are getting screwed with our seeding for the college football playoffs. Many here we calling for Marcus Freeman's head on a platter after that loss. Certainly many of those same posters never figured we would make it to the playoffs, let alone be hosting a game in the first round. Yet here we are. Kudos to CMF for holding the team and his coaching staff together and getting them to believe in themselves and then go out and perform like a well oiled machine for the next 10 games. Yes, our schedule wasn't the strongest, but we were not merely winning, we were pounding teams into submission. I don't know that many of us saw that after NIU. And if you did, you really need to spend some time in Vegas!

"And just as the Phoenix rose from the ashes, ND too will rise." As someone once said, the sweet smell of success comes on the back of the stench of hard earned sweat.
 
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Tough road with the 7 seed, hope the boys are ready to handle Indiana then dispatch the sec champ.
I think ND wins by 2 TDs. Not crazy about the indoor game with GA down south however the QB is hurt and ND is playing tough.
 
When you said you didn't know which option MF would take that's when you said it. You acted stupid like duhh I don't know what option MF would take, the harder option or easier option, uhh duhh

Michigan was upset last year when they got Bama in 1st round. Remember that story lol. The team looked depressed they got Bama instead of FSU

But they don't care about who they have to play right 🤣
Yeah, I already said that. What's your point? You keep reiterating the same argument and misapplying my comments to unrealistic scenarios and throwing insults at me, that have no effect on me and you getting your way. Now you're bringing up Michigan, which has no relevance to our discussion.

A serious question: Can you ever accept that someone might disagree with you on an internet message board of all places? Your relentless focus on me only highlights your own insecurity. I find it both absurd and amusing, as I have no interest in changing your mind and am perfectly fine accepting your disagreement and don't need to throw insults at you for it. But keep going...
 
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Yeah, I already said that. What's your point? You keep reiterating the same argument and misapplying my comments to unrealistic scenarios and throwing insults at me, that have no effect on me and you getting your way. Now you're bringing up Michigan, which has no relevance to our discussion.

A serious question: Can you ever accept that someone might disagree with you on an internet message board of all places? Your relentless focus on me only highlights your own insecurity. I find it both absurd and amusing, as I have no interest in changing your mind and am perfectly fine accepting your disagreement and don't need to throw insults at you for it. But keep going...
I dont mind the disagreements. I actually enjoy a good debate. People make good points. I try to make good points. That's what I like about a message board. Interacting with ND fans and debating. Talking ND football

Your point had no logic to it. It was a bad argument that defied logic. And you doubled down on stupid. Then you tried to play dumb uh duhhh I don't know
 
I dont mind the disagreements. I actually enjoy a good debate. People make good points. I try to make good points. That's what I like about a message board. Interacting with ND fans and debating. Talking ND football

Your point had no logic to it. It was a bad argument that defied logic. And you doubled down on stupid. Then you tried to play dumb uh duhhh I don't know
Hard for me to understand how you don't mind the disagreements when you need throw insults. The reason why my point has no logic to you is that you don't know what it's like to compete at a high level.

It can't at all be possible that there are coaches and players truly don't care about seedings and are just happy to be in the playoffs? To live and fight another day? Instead of feeling like they got screwed for getting a higher seed? That isn't possible?

There have been cases where coaches rest starters actually sacrificing the potential for a higher seed w/ the ultimate goal of health and preparation. Gruden did it, as the bucs coach. There are NBA coaches who choose to rest starters prioritizing health and preparation, instead of chasing the highest seed. That's not defying logic, that's evidence. And what do those guys have in common? They're winners. Seeding doesn't dictate outcome. Your preparation does.

You wanting me to make a claim as to what Freeman would say in an impossible scenario of being given a choice is illogical to me. I don't know the guy, never met him. But somehow I really should know what he would choose? And if I did answer your question the way you wanted me to, what point does that prove? It doesn't make me right, as I would have no evidence to support that. But again I'm defying logic? That makes me laugh. And then if I don't agree w/ unsupported opinion. Then according to you, it does mean I'm saying coaches purposely choose a harder path, which is not at all what I said.
But for argument's sake... some athletes honestly prefer doing things the hard way. Examples: Ali faced many as an underdog when he didn't have to, Brady left the comfort of the Pats when he didn't have to, Serena Williams continued to play and compete against hungry competitors when she struggled w/ multiple personal battles, Simone Biles came back and competed at an older age and battling mental illness, when she already cemented her legacy. Again, And what do those athletes have in common? They're winners. This is how I know you never competed at a high level, so of course my logic doesn't make sense to you. I agree w/ you there. Anytime, anywhere.
 
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