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So....5 though 7 ?

My immediate prediction:

Clemson @ Texas
Alabama @ Penn St
IU @ ND
Tennessee @ Ohio State

4 Arizona State
3 Boise State
2 Georgia
1 Oregon
 
7 without question. No way they punish Penn State for losing a game by 8 against the #1 team when the team directly below them didn't play. Because if they were going to do that, then ND should already be ranked ahead of them. It would make zero sense.
 
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7 without question. No way they punish Penn State for losing a game by 8 against the #1 team when the team directly below them didn't play. Because if they were going to do that, then ND should already be ranked ahead of them. It would make zero sense.
So are they going to punish SMU and push Bama out?

We should have been ahead of psu already
 
Lookin at the rankings/bracket. I don't see how you can put Bama ahead of SMU. Oregon, UGA, Clemson, Boise, ASU conference Champs. ND, PSU, Texas, OSU, Tennessee, Indiana, SMU at large bids is my guess.
 
So are they going to punish SMU and push Bama out?

We should have been ahead of psu already

Ehhhhhhhhh.......I mean in theory they SHOULDN'T, it's a similar situation. SMU played an extra game and lost as time expired against a ranked team. And SMU was what, 3 spots ahead of Alabama? Am I convinced that will happen? No. But based on the rankings as-is and what happened, I would say SMU should stay in. Now do I think they're a better team than Alabama? Absolutely not. But based on the reality of their rankings, I would say SMU should stay in.
 
Ehhhhhhhhh.......I mean in theory they SHOULDN'T, it's a similar situation. SMU played an extra game and lost as time expired against a ranked team. And SMU was what, 3 spots ahead of Alabama? Am I convinced that will happen? No. But based on the rankings as-is and what happened, I would say SMU should stay in. Now do I think they're a better team than Alabama? Absolutely not. But based on the reality of their rankings, I would say SMU should stay in.
So if ND doesn't pass Psu, then Bama shouldn't pass Smu.
 
If you believe you're good enough, you don't care about seedings. ND is in. That's what counts. A home playoff game is a nice bonus, which they appear to have locked up.
Yeah you do. Even the greatest team of all time would want the clearest path to the title. And if you don't get it you still go out there and do your thing

But everyone prefers the easier path
 
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In theory, yes.

All I'll say is I'll believe they leave Alabama out of the playoff in favor of SMU when I see it.
Bama is 100% getting in over SMU, committee will need to answer to “we won’t punish teams for playing in their conference championship.”
 
Tells ya the system is broken when the #15 and 17th ranked teams heading into today are getting a bye
Yea, the value of winning the conf

Let’s see how they match up the brackets

The 5-6 seed should have 2 possible favorable games
 
Yeah you do. Even the greatest team of all time would want the clearest path to the title. And if you don't get it you still go out there and do your thing

But everyone prefers the easier path
No offense, but it's obvious you never competed at a high level. Ask any of the multi-championship winners and they'll tell you... anytime, anyplace.

Even Draymond Green who is hardly an all time great was asked about seedings once and he said... I've won and lost at home and on the road. Seedings don't matter.

Survive and advance. If you're worried about seedings. You got bigger problems.
 
No offense, but it's obvious you never competed at a high level. Ask any of the multi-championship winners and they'll tell you... anytime, anyplace.

Even Draymond Green who is hardly an all time great was asked about seedings once and he said... I've won and lost at home and on the road. Seedings don't matter.

Survive and advance. If you're worried about seedings. You got bigger problems.
Yeah okay.... lol

No one is going to say that publicly. Not only would you be disrespecting your opponent you would be questioned for your competitiveness

But everyone deep down would rather the easier path.
 
Yeah okay.... lol

No one is going to say that publicly. Not only would you be disrespecting your opponent you would be questioned for your competitiveness

But everyone deep down would rather the easier path.
That's quite the claim. Show me the data. Tell me who are the athletes that are saying... man we would've been Champs if we got the 1 seed instead of the 3? Once again, you can't prove it, cause no big time competitor says that. If you believe you're good enough, you are thrilled to be in the playoffs no matter what seed.

5 seed or 12 seed tmw, I'm just hyped ND is in the playoffs. And if they lose the first round, then there's no reason to be upset. It just proves they weren't good enough. Regardless of whom and where they play.
 
That's quite the claim. Show me the data. Tell me who are the athletes that are saying... man we would've been Champs if we got the 1 seed instead of the 3? Once again, you can't prove it, cause no big time competitor says that. If you believe you're good enough, you are thrilled to be in the playoffs no matter what seed.

5 seed or 12 seed tmw, I'm just hyped ND is in the playoffs. And if they lose the first round, then there's no reason to be upset. It just proves they weren't good enough. Regardless of whom and where they play.
Okay, I'll give you a hypothetical and let's see if you are being honest here or not

So the CFP comes to MF privately and tells him he has the ability to choose his path and he has 2 options

Option 1

1. SMU
2. Boise state
3. Oregon
4. Georgia

Option 2

1. Ohio State
2. Texas
3. Oregon
4. Georgia

If those are his options, which one do you think he is choosing? I want to see how honest you are or if you just don't want to say okay maybe that makes some sense.
 
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Okay, I'll give you a hypothetical and let's see if you are being honest here or not

So the CFP comes to MF privately and tells him he has the ability to choose his path and he has 2 options

Option 1

1. SMU
2. Boise state
3. Oregon
4. Georgia

Option 2

1. Ohio State
2. Texas
3. Oregon
4. Georgia

If those are his options, which one do you think he is choosing? I want to see how honest you are or if you just don't want to say okay maybe that makes some sense.
Honestly.. I have no idea what Freeman is choosing. But my hope is that he says anytime, anywhere.
 
Of course anytime anywhere. But if he had the choice you know and I know what he would choose

I see you didn't want to be honest but its okay
So if you don't believe my response, then what's the point of commenting on my posts? I believe your responses despite disagreeing with them.
 
So if you don't believe my response, then what's the point of commenting on my posts? I believe your responses despite disagreeing with them.
Yeah because you know and I know what his answer would be

You are choosing to play not only the more talented teams but also the more physical teams. There is wear and tear to be factored in

If he is not giving his team the best chance of getting through he would be doing a disservice to his own team

Maybe just maybe you could say yeah that makes sense. But it is what it is. We both know. All good
 
Yeah because you know and I know what his answer would be

You are choosing to play not only the more talented teams but also the more physical teams. There is wear and tear to be factored in

If he is not giving his team the best chance of getting through he would be doing a disservice to his own team

Maybe just maybe you could say yeah that makes sense. But it is what it is. We both know. All good
No... I don't know. Never met Freeman and don't presume to know what he would say. I find it absolutely outlandish you're comfortable making that claim about Freeman without any proof. And if you don't believe that what I'm saying is the truth, then just move on man. You've embarrassed yourself enough.
 
I think this is a very likely scenario
How would Texas get the 5 no top 25 wins. We have a common oppents with USC and Texas A&M plus Army moved up with the win. SMU lost on a last second fild goal so it's a toss up with Alabama.

 
No... I don't know. Never met Freeman and don't presume to know what he would say. I find it absolutely outlandish you're comfortable making that claim about Freeman without any proof. And if you don't believe that what I'm saying is the truth, then just move on man. You've embarrassed yourself enough.
Like I said, we both know. All good. I just know now that you can't admit something but it's what it is

I mean NFL teams purposely try not to get the 1 seed so they can play the extra game and harder path right? And when the bracket comes out in college bball, the teams don't want the higher seeds. They would rather be the 16 seed and not the 1 seed. They are disappointed getting that 1 seed over the 16 seed. And in baseball they don't celebrate the bye because they actually want the wild card right. And they don't want home field advantage, they would rather go on the road because it is the tougher path

I mean your comments ridiculous but we both know that

I mean that's why teams in college fball schedule fcs teams. They want the hardest path possible? Maybe next year before Alabama plays Auburn they will try to schedule Ohio State instead of Mercer because harder path....
 
Like I said, we both know. All good. I just know now that you can't admit something but it's what it is

I mean NFL teams purposely try not to get the 1 seed so they can play the extra game and harder path right? And when the bracket comes out in college bball, the teams don't want the higher seeds. They would rather be the 16 seed and not the 1 seed. They are disappointed getting that 1 seed over the 16 seed. And in baseball they don't celebrate the bye because they actually want the wild card right. And they don't want home field advantage, they would rather go on the road because it is the tougher path

I mean your comments ridiculous but we both know that

I mean that's why teams in college fball schedule fcs teams. They want the hardest path possible? Maybe next year before Alabama plays Auburn they will try to schedule Ohio State instead of Mercer because harder path....
First off, topic is about seedings taking place tmw. Not the regular season.

Secondly, my comments about competitors saying anytime, anyplace is ridiculous despite quoting Draymond Green compared to your comments about what Freeman would say and do without any proof and then actually accusing me of being dishonest??? This was a good laugh.
 
First off, topic is about seedings taking place tmw. Not the regular season.

Secondly, my comments about competitors saying anytime, anyplace is ridiculous despite quoting Draymond Green compared to your comments about what Freeman would say and do without any proof and then actually accusing me of being dishonest??? This was a good laugh.
So you bring in a comment about draymond green and thats relevant but every other sport is irrelevant. Got it. Anytime anywhere. So Duke gets the 1 seed in college basketball. Committee gives them the option of the 1 seed and 16 seed. According to you, they are saying give us the 16 seed

You're acting like a moron here.

Every competitor is going to say anytime anywhere. But let's see if Oregon would turn down the 1 seed this year to be the 12 seed

Your comment is ridiculous
 
So you bring in a comment about draymond green and thats relevant but every other sport is irrelevant. Got it. Anytime anywhere. So Duke gets the 1 seed in college basketball. Committee gives them the option of the 1 seed and 16 seed. According to you, they are saying give us the 16 seed

You're acting like a moron here.

Every competitor is going to say anytime anywhere. But let's see if Oregon would turn down the 1 seed this year to be the 12 seed

Your comment is ridiculous
At what point did I say that about Duke taking the 16 seed?

I believe you think I'm a moron and I don't care. At least I have the decency to accept your comments as you believe them. What I find fascinating is you insist on arguing with a poster who you believe is being dishonest. It's just funny to me... If you believe what I'm saying.
 
At what point did I say that about Duke taking the 16 seed?

I believe you think I'm a moron and I don't care. At least I have the decency to accept your comments as you believe them. What I find fascinating is you insist on arguing with a poster who you believe is being dishonest. It's just funny to me... If you believe what I'm saying.
Because you are defying logic. I would assume you are not an unintelligent person so either I assume you are being dishonest or just don't want to admit a point. Either way you are defying common logic

I didn't say you said it. It was another hypothetical. According to you the 1 seed Duke would want to actually be the 16 seed. Because that is your logic apparently. Choose the harder route. So Duke wouldn't want the 1 seed, they would want to be the 16 seed and have the toughest road possible. That's your logic, correct ?
 
Ehhhhhhhhh.......I mean in theory they SHOULDN'T, it's a similar situation. SMU played an extra game and lost as time expired against a ranked team. And SMU was what, 3 spots ahead of Alabama? Am I convinced that will happen? No. But based on the rankings as-is and what happened, I would say SMU should stay in. Now do I think they're a better team than Alabama? Absolutely not. But based on the reality of their rankings, I would say SMU should stay in.


This is the crux of the argument. Bama is better, probably much better. But does this trump SMU's meritorious ranking?

Might as well toss a coin. Either pick is justified. It's not clear cut...even considering SOS, quality of losses and wins, and current form.

As I've been saying, if you're not clearly in the top 10, you risk margins of error. Be it SMU or Alabama.
 
Because you are defying logic. I would assume you are not an unintelligent person so either I assume you are being dishonest or just don't want to admit a point. Either way you are defying common logic

I didn't say you said it. It was another hypothetical. According to you the 1 seed Duke would want to actually be the 16 seed. Because that is your logic apparently. Choose the harder route. So Duke wouldn't want the 1 seed, they would want to be the 16 seed and have the toughest road possible. That's your logic, correct ?
Let's focus on the topic at hand here. You said ND will get 7 seed and be screwed. I said anytime, anywhere meaning competitors don't concern themselves with seedings. That's the point that I'm making and take full ownership of.

Your hypothetical scenarios about Freeman and Duke have nothing to do with the original disagreement at hand and don't make sense as the seeding isn't a choice. You've decided to apply my comments to a scenario that isnt possible and label my comments as dishonest and defying logic. Lol. Keep going, cuz this does make me laugh.
 
1. Oregon 2.Georgia 3. Boise State 4 Arizona State

5. Notre Dame vs 12. Smu
6. Penn State vs 11 Clemson
7. Texas. 10. Indiana
8. Ohio State. 9. Tennessee
Why is 2 loss Penn State ranked over 2 loss Ohio State?

Ohio State won at Penn State.
 
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Let's focus on the topic at hand here. You said ND will get 7 seed and be screwed. I said anytime, anywhere meaning competitors don't concern themselves with seedings. That's the point that I'm making and take full ownership of.

Your hypothetical scenarios about Freeman and Duke have nothing to do with the original disagreement at hand and don't make sense as the seeding isn't a choice. You've decided to apply my comments to a scenario that isnt possible and label my comments as dishonest and defying logic. Lol. Keep going, cuz this does make me laugh.
We have no disagreement with that. You play whoever is on the field against you and expect to win. You don't back down from anyone. Ever. Even if you are playing the KC Chiefs There is no disagreement with that

The disagreement is you saying a coach would purposely choose the harder path. And the option I gave was choosing a much harder path That is not using logic at all. That's the part that I think is disingenuous by you.

No I gave you a hypothetical to show you why your argument didn't make sense. But you wanted to stick with it because who knows why
 
We have no disagreement with that. You play whoever is on the field against you and expect to win. You don't back down from anyone. Ever. Even if you are playing the KC Chiefs There is no disagreement with that

The disagreement is you saying a coach would purposely choose the harder path. And the option I gave was choosing a much harder path That is not using logic at all. That's the part that I think is disingenuous by you.
When did I say that a coach would purposely choose the harder path?
 
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