In a team sport of course you would think this way. I’m just glad I’ve never been on a team with you.
Sam Hartman - Opting out of Sun Bowl
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In the big games, Sam didn’t play well but I think It was more playcalling and protection than Sam. Wr play was very underwhelming (big drops like the Tyree vs Lville). O-line wasn’t great either in protection but that’s really not all on o-line cuz we ran it on 1st and 2nd and sometimes 3rd in the big games. I know he made some mistakes but when it’s 3rd and long and the defense is pinning their ears back, bad things can happen. I know a lot of posters don’t like him, but it wasn’t all on him in our losses. Would’ve liked to see him play in the bowl but it looks like it’s a mass exodus from everyone that could leave.
Also, had no problem with Joe Alt, Blake Fisher, Marist Liufau, and Audric Estime.
Now send the same letter to Audric Estime, Blake Fisher, and Joe Alt.
He SHOULD play
But I'm glad he's not because I want to see Minchey specifically. And Angeli some
Snap ratio between the two! I’m saying coaches are idiots offensively like normal and give 90% to angeli despite going portal because everyone knows he’s not good enough
That's a pretty fair post. Hard to argue with any of that. But the dude is 24 years old. Too old for a bowl game...
You keep saying that, but several messages up I told you my stance on those guys…..very different situations.
Meanwhile, Stetson Bennett won his second title at age 25, and never graduated from Georgia.
Capt. and leader? What else would you expect from a merc.
Good point. He very well may be “too old for this shit”. I get it. All things equal, I just think that Sam owes ND max effort. What I am certain of, is that no amount of bitching that I do on a message board will impact the game.
I just want to see ND get the win. I’m still optimistic they can win with Angeli or Minchey. Maybe both get some time.
The exact same ND received from Blake Fisher, Audric Estime, Marist Lifiau, and Joe Alt.
Yeah, now Angeli gets the start. I'd think most fans would almost be more stoked about that. I'm definitely looking forward to that aspect of it.
Of course. Jaylon Smith owed the team, Michael Mayer owed the team, Isaiah Foskey owed the team, Joe Alt owes the team, Blake Fisher owes the team, Audric Estime owes the team, Marist Lifiau owes the team....
All of them.
😂 Hartman opted out to not jeopardize his Undrafted Free Agent status, while the 3 you mentioned will all be off the board by the end of day 2 if not day1
Aaaah, so in your world certain players are allowed to opt out, others are not.
Got it.
Once again team sport not an individual sport. If your going to sit out the bowl game, why not just sit o it the whole year?
No, just saying. I'm actually glad he opted out, gives Angeli and Minchey a chance to show what they've got.
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Who cares. Outside of the CFP, the bowls today are meaningless. It gives the younger guys a chance to play.
Excellent post and hits the mark, though there are some players who still who understand the concept of "the team".
I believe there are some NFL programs who value that mindset
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How is going 9-3 failing? No offense, but there isn't any sort of logic that you can use to get me to agree with it being a failure. Consider it a rhetorical question.
Though I think they are letting the team down they didn't come in for a season then bail
Become a big time high school athlete, go to a major college under a football scholarship, earn a starting spot, then be a player who could end up being drafted by the NFL. Do those things and then you will have a proper place to criticize.
It's possible to have a team concept while also understanding that personal decisions have to be made.
He does Notre Dame more good by sitting out. His level of play wasn't good enough to make a substantial difference in the odds of winning. Providing Angeli and Minchey with playing time is much more valuable.
It's a business decision. Need to stop viewing these decisions with emotion.
The problem with assessments like yours is that it treats Freeman like he has already peaked. He hasn't peaked.
You are so far up in Minchey's jock and he couldn't even beat out Angeli. Don't quit your day job because you've proven to be the worst poster on here when it comes to talent assessment.
I don't think you've ever gotten a QB prediction correct. lol 😂 what a loser.
Jaylon Smith is a NFL HoF'er, if he doesn't tear up his knee. He almost didn't recover physically to be able to play again.
Golson5 is a keyboard warrior that pretends to be in the know when in reality he doesn't know sh1t, like the rest of us.
