You keep saying it's an issue, yet there are 0 instances of anybody reporting on it. Explain to me how there are all kinds of other things that are reported on, even as relatively insignificant issues, yet there's nothing reported on players having a problem with opt outs. Make that make sense.
Sam Hartman - Opting out of Sun Bowl
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I said it's an issue for some
The fact that nothing is 100% tells us that is an issue to some
Even when one terrorist country bombs the crap out of a non terrorist country, there's still people who agree with the terrorist country
Point is nothing is 100% in life. It is a problem to some because that's life
100% I don't care if minchey and Angeli play in the game. But they should be getting reps with the first team...as should carr if he came early as expected.
Why do you dodge the post I replied to you on?
Desmond Howard clearly said people are talking about it.
I know that hurts your narrative, but you are sounding silly now
The game isn't all that important to who?
If you truly believe that would you walk in any bowls game locker room that is not a playoff team, and tell each team that prior to taking the field this game isn't all that important, and then stick around for the response?
Interesting that you and others stick to it be some huge issue that needs to be addressed, but you won't answer that question.
This isn't a big deal. If you aren't in the playoffs a bowl game is about practicing for next year, not ending this year.
Sad to some, but that is how college football works now.
Hartman playing doest help us for next year. And possibly hurts his future. He has 6 years of tape, so it's not going to help him to play. It's better for ND to give practice and live reps to guys that can contribute next year to see what we have.
Sad to some, but that is how college football works now.
Hartman playing doest help us for next year. And possibly hurts his future. He has 6 years of tape, so it's not going to help him to play. It's better for ND to give practice and live reps to guys that can contribute next year to see what we have.
It's been that way for a while. I don't think this is anything new.
So a tree falls in a forest, but because no one reported on the tree falling it never happened.
It's a huge issue that players want to see changed that they literally never talk about it publicly to anyone. Earth shattering issue there.
It didn't get reported because the tree falling wasn't a major issue that was worth reporting. Quite literally, a non-issue tree.
I’m not saying a tree falling is a major issue. I’m saying/asking because it wasn’t reported on it never happened?
So you believe the player believe the bowl means little to them
9-4...10-3 no difference
Ending their football career with a win means little to those who are graduating?
If its all about practice for next year why would they even show up then?
BTW Hartman could of got hurt in the Stanford game as well yet he played
I’m sure they would all like to be 10 game winners, but I don’t think it’s that big of a deal to them, as much it is for fans to talk about numbers.
I’m sure they all want to end with the win, but I also think that they believe they can win with a quarterback other than Sam Hartman. Also, in this specific situation, Oregon State is going to be playing without anybody really, so it doesn’t matter whom we start aT quarterback.
From a program standpoint, it’s all about the practices and developing players — what happens in a bowl game especially against an opponent that’s not going to have any of their players is really inconsequential. I’m sure the players want to win and the coaches want to win, but I’m sure they feel that they can win with what they have, and don’t need the players who are going to sit out..
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You are asking a question that's not relevant to what I have been saying. Using that analogy, I made it relevant to what I have been saying.
Let me make it clear again:
Someone made a statement that the opt outs are a problem that needs to be fixed. I said (and have said it multiple times in several different ways) that the opt outs are only an issue for fans and that it's not something that players are worried about. On a scale of 1-10, the average player is probably worried about opt outs at about 2.5. It barely registers. In other words, they have many more things about which they are much more concerned. Fans are the ones who are all worked up by the opt outs, not players.
That's a reasonable response though I believe it means great deal more to them than what you believe
But if these bowls are so meaningless as you believe they should just do away with them instead of putting players at risk for no reason, and a cost burden to the fans. It would be irresponsible of the universities to continue this madness.
After all It's all about the 2%
My initial comment was addressing someone saying that it's an issue that needs to change. I said that it's not. If you agree with me that's it's not, THEN WHY THE **** DO YOU KEEP PUSHING BACK ON WHAT THE **** I AM SAYING?
Exactly the point that I have been making. Only the fans are butt hurt about players opting out.
And yet you ignor to address what Desmond Howard said in the article i posted
Because you responded to what I am saying by using what other people are saying.
You should stop doing that
