The best running back "room" is arguable, but we are 1 or 2 for depth, which is what I mean by best "group". Do we have the best back? No. But name 1 program with better depth. We possibly have the best depth for sure.
Ohio state for one. But there's more. Our backfield is talented but has almost zero production. No way are we one of the top 2 right now. Maybe by the end of the year if they prove something in the field
The point is that Buchner is not elite right now. So, making the assumption that he will or will not be is simply guess work. I don't think there is a team with much better RB depth per se. Yes, Ohio State has a better back. Not sure I'd say definitely better depth.
According to a practice report, Angeli looked like the "most physically ready QB of the 4". More than all the other 3. That's either a good thing and Angeli is a god or it's a bad thing and means the other guys just aren't elite QB's.
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I never said he was elite. I said he had elite talent. I specifically said it's wait and see with him. But no reason think he can't be elite
I didn't watch that. That was practice 1 and they only got to see 30 minutes, no live stuff. Pointless
What a wacko perse is.
While I wish him the best, if he had elite talent in throwing the football it would have manifested itself by now.
Nonsense and ridiculous. He was a true freshman last year and didn't have a senior year of hs football.
You think you are better than everyone else. You aren't.
Powlus is the tallest QB and has the strongest arm on the roster. He has zero chance of playing here. Buchner is the best qb on the roster. That point you made is irrelevant
As a frosh, who missed his SR year in HS due to Covid, and got injured 2x last year? Nah …he gets a pass to see what he does this year
What was seen by others was that Buchner was #1 and was improved. Not sure how that equates to “little evidence from spring”
Watch the Virginia Tech game and tell us where you see “elite talent”
I don’t have an issue with that, I do have an issue with him being deemed “elite talent”
The popular opinion is it appears Dante has decided to use recruitment to build his social media following and possible angle for more nil money. Originally this was not anticipated and the hope was he would pop in April to help the team recruit. At this point, both he and Tate are borderline overplaying their hands and fan bases are starting to turn on them. The talent is there, but questions will remain until they commit.
Watching a game where a QB had 15-16 scripted plays that were regularly practiced, and was then asked to use the entire playbook as a judge of talent is folly. It's an indictment on poor coaching, strategy, and leadership.
I would LOVE to see one of the 2024 kids (Sayin or Carr) reclassify into the 2023 class and commit to ND. Then we can all just move on from the Dante saga. Or, Buchner has a monster year and Angeli emerges as a massively underrated prospect, which is also possible given his spring. I still view 2024 as the most important year for QB recruiting. Sayin or Carr can learn for 1 year while Buchner finishes his last year and then battle Angeli for the job the next season.
I don't care if they reclassify. It's going to be less and less important to have a year waiting under your belt as an elite recruit. Just lock one in and move forward
I agree. I have watched a lot of film on both Sayin and Carr. They are easily just as impressive as Moore. I really like Sayin, it's no secret. But Carr is a stud too.
I can show you hall of fame qbs who stunk as freshman and hall of fame qbs who didn't even see the field as freshman or sophomore.
ALL IRRELEVANT, THEY LATER PROVED THEMSELVES, TB HASN‘T
And he'll show his elite talent this year and moving forward just like the other QB's. And he played well in the first half. He just wasn't prepared in the 2nd half to run the whole offense. That won't be an issue this season
8:11 left in second quarter
There is a gametime experience gap throughout the quarterback ranks on this team. We can debate degrees of talent and potential all day long....I haven't tallied up the actual (ND) game minutes played by these quarterbacks...but it ain't much. It concerns me that a program at this level hasn't taken the opportunities to play these quarterbacks more often even last year. I realize many of those games were close enough to justify sticking with the starter for 4 quarters..but I wondered why in those not so close games the coaches weren't getting these guys more snaps.
No it hasn't sailed. We're still the favorite. Chill out Nancy
Just because they aren't in on anyone now doesn't mean they won't take a QB this year.
Yeah it's so weird how people are buying into his social media and think that matters.
The former HC was only concerned about landing a new coaching position for himself next year. He was not worried about the experience level of the remaining ND QB room.
First off...ian book had a mediocre at best arm. He could push the ball down field with a clean pocket, a full wind up and push (what he did in the video)...almost any college QB can do that. That is as much a function of technique stepping through the delivery vs arm strength or velocity.
Kelly wanted more money. Swarbrick said we talk at end of your contract. That is how it started
