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Nice sidestep and backtrack and moving goalposts there hahaha. Wow just admit you were wrong. Be a man
You said Kobe owned Lebron. Which was total BS and an obvious lie.
Now up are making it about other things which were total BS as well
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Nice sidestep and backtrack and moving goalposts there hahaha. Wow just admit you were wrong. Be a man
You said Kobe owned Lebron. Which was total BS and an obvious lie.
Now up are making it about other things which were total BS as well
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Now I'll tear this stupid argument apart like I did with your other stupid one
Kobe didnt have to join up with other with other players. Nope, he was just drafted to the best organization in basketball. And had the best head coach in the NBA. After MJ retired he was playing with the best basketball player in the world. And Shaq won those finals MVPs, not Kobe. Shaq was Batman, Kobe was Robin. Lebron never played a game in his life where he wasnt the Alpha. Lebron got drafted to one of the worst franchises. With a bad head coach. So your comparison is just idiotic. Oh and when Shaq left, Kobe couldn't get out of the first round until they got Pau
Kobe is a killer, Lebron is soft. Okay where's your evidence. Lebron is much better historically in big moments than Kobe. The stats back that up. Thats a weak narrative for people who dont watch the game like yourself
Next you bring up the stats argument. Which is a ridiculous argument. But okay. He played in the same era as Kobe, Duncan, Garnett, Dirk, Allen, Pierce, Carter, Wade, Carmelo, KD, CP3, Howard, Curry etc etc etc. If the league is so soft, then why havent any of these guys done what he's done? Its so easy right? The league is so soft. Why isnt anyone else in the last 25 years done what hes done?
According to you hes soft and not a killer so you would think all these players from the same era could do what hes done.
And if he played in the 80s 90s his career doesnt last as long 🤣🤣. Yeah that rough and tough 200 lb Reggie Miller did it but 260 lb Lebron cant
Any other weak ass arguments you want to make up??
Wrong it is very factual. The rules today and for the past 15 + years absolutely benefit the offense, add in the non-calls for traveling, palming, etc., not to mention the flopping. There was zero load management back in the 80's and 90's. it's a completely different game and has skewed the stats.
Again Leflop would not have had a 20+ year career without those advantages, he would not have won the 4 rings he has, and he would not have had the stats he has today.
Then why hasnt any other player in the last 25 years done what hes done?? If it's so easy now, why isn't everyone doing it?
Then you say load management.....hes played more minutes than any player in NBA history. So if he is load managing that wouldnt be possible.
How did Reggie Miller play til he was 39 if it was so rough and tough. How can he do it but Lebron couldn't? Was Reggie a physically tough player?
Go back to watching your soft NBA. A number of younger players are currently statistically trending better than LeFlop. Jokic is one off the top of my head, so yea it's easier. If you can't see the details ference in your the gave has changed you're mentally challenged, and I can't help you. we already knew this about you. As I've stated many times before, to refer to you as mentally challenged you scan insult to the mentally challenged.
You can throw out all the stats you want, but you're comparing apples to oranges because Kobe, MJ, etc. played in a much harder league, and that's fact.
You're so stupid you dont realize that Lebron and Kobe played in the NBA together for 13 years and Kobe was 25 when Lebron came into the league.
It's extremely hard to be wrong about so many points as consistently as you. You cant be as dumb as you are showing yourself to be, can you? Is it possible?
And no Jokics stats arent even close to Lebrons at the same point 🤣🤣🤣. Seriously you cannot be. Like what in the hell are you talking about?
You say mentally challenged but you continue to bring up awful wrong points
First Kobe owned Lebron. Then they played in different eras. Then Jokics stats and other players stats are trending better than Lebrons.
You seriously are as clueless as possible on thia topic. Id say stick to football but you are almost as bad there
Wow that was just really bad
Jokic recently passed Lebron in career triple doubles. Get your facts straight, dummy.
Kobe played in the league from 1996-2016 for one team, and was in the league 8 full seasons before Leflop came into the league. Kobe won his first championship in his 5th year, it took LeFlop 10 years and he had to join 2 other stars to form a big 3 at the time to do it. Kobe has more rings with one team than LeFlop do a moving to multiple teams in an effort to win championships.
The NBA changed the hand check rule in 2004-2005, just when Leflop entered the league. If you look at Kobe's stats, he had better offensive numbers after that rule change than prior.
Again, I can't teach stupid.
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First you said Kobe owned Lebron. Wrong Lebron holds a 16 to 6 advantage over Kobe with better stats in every category. First stupid point
Then you said they played in different eras. They played 13 years together in the NBA and matched up 22 times. Second stupid
You said Jokic stats are trending better than Lebrons. That was funny. He wont be within 15000 points to Lebron when his career is over. Hes not even close to him at the same age. At age 29, jokic has 14,128 points. At age 29, Lebron had 23,170 points. Lebron destroys Jokics stats at the same age. He destroys every player statistically because he came right out of high school and dominated the NBA from day 1. No high school player has ever done that
You said Kobe had better offensive numbers after 2004. Yeah no shit. Thats when Shaq left and he was shooting 25 shots a game and he was entering his prime. Yeah no shit his numbers got better. But his best field goal pct year was pre 2005 so that hand check had such a huge effect lol. He also had some better offensive years pre then post. So the argument is pretty stupid either way. A bad point to even make because it didnt have an effect
Kobe won in year 5 because he was playing with the best basketball player in the world and the best coach in the world on the best franchise in basketball. Shaq left and he missed the playoffs and lost in the first rd twice until he got guys like Pau Odom Artest Bynum.
Then you say rings rings like it's a individual achievement. So Kobe has 5, L3bron has 4. So that means Kobe is better to you. Does that mean Lebron at 4 and Bird at 3 that Lebron is better than Bird. You said Bird was better. Contradicting yourself there huh? Russell has 11 and Havlichick has 8 so are they both better than Jordan? Or is your argument falling apart?
Didnt say he couldn't. All I said is he should shut his mouth about BS, no one gives a rats ass about , and just play basketball.
Dont want to start a pissing contest because Kobe was great & loved watching him & I wont take anything away from him but there is a crazy stat that Lebron could miss his next 3000+ shots and still finish with a higher career fg % than Kobe. And though Kobe is known as a great clutch player. Lebron's clutch stats are better than kobe's.
Lebron for his career averages 19.6 attempts per game for a .506 average.
Kobe averaged 19.5 attempts for a .447 average.
Lebron shoots the 3 at a rate of .348
Kobe is at .329.
Kobe’s average went way down in his age 36 and 37 seasons. Lebron blows him way out of the water on that account.
To be fair MJ was also accused of ped use & even rumors that the NBA covered up a failed drug test. MJ went from 185 to 225 in a summer. Had a full head of hair & 3 months later was almost completely bald. I wouldnt be surprised if either used some form of ped's
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Technically Kobe was drafted by the Charlotte Hornets not the Lakers.
As I've posted before it's fair to say MJ was the better player, but it's also fair to say LeBron has had the best career. Both players would have been dominant in any era. Interesting stat is that this season at 39 years of age of LeBron James is the only player to have EVER averaged better than 25pts and 8 assists per game on 58% shooting on two point attempts and 41% percent on three point attempts. At age 39 that just defies all logic. Hate him all you want but to not acknowledge and respect the greatness on the court is just silly.
Ill take 6 Championships to 4 for LaBronney as having a better career. MJ never cried when he got fouled, Labronney whines/flops like a little biotch.
So championships are the only criteria for you ? Plenty of players have more than both.
LOL it was MJ that ushered in the "softer NBA". MJ complained to Stern after losing to the Pistons for the 3rd straight year & Stern inacted rule changes to take away the physical way the Pistons guarded MJ. Thomas complained that Magic, Bird, Dr J and even himself got beat up but that after 1990 you couldnt touch MJ. Even NBA refs of era admitted that if MJ went to the hole they were told to blow the whistle even if they didnt see a foul. His own teammate John Paxson admitted that refs let MJ get away with fouls because people were paying money to see him play.
I imagine when up against this type of competition everyone is looking for an edge
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Do you think Havlichick had a better career than Mike? Mike cried a lot to officials too. If you don't think that is true, you are probably like 23 years old
sure he complained, but he didn't flop around like a loser after getting barely touched either.
At least you can admit that MJ cried and complained to the officials too
Mj did flop. But not nearly as much as players do now. It's a strategy now and though I dont like it, it is smart basketball. The bad boy pistons were, Rodman, Divac, Reggie Miller were some of the originators of flopping. It started in the 80s and has gotten progressively worse.
As a fan, I hate it. But I totally understand it for smart basketball reasons
They’re worse than soccer players w/ the flopping. It’s ridiculous.
It's why I stopped watching. Add in the non calls to traveling, palming, etc., the only s unbearable.
I know that this is the narrative but its false. The 80's & early 90's were a faster paced NBA than the majority of Lebron's career from 03 - the mid 10's. MJ actually spent more of his career in a faster paced NBA than Lebron's has spent his career. And the current pace of play is the same as it was in the 80's. The biggest reason for the pace increase was the change from 24 to 14 secs on an offensive reb & reducing backcourt from 10 secs to 8 secs.
Lebron will also add his 20th all NBA team award making him the only player to reach that mark. He is also the only player in NBA history to be All NBA 96% of his career.
Michael Jordan, IMO, is the greatest NBA player I have ever watched.
Where did I mention pace of the game? I'm referring to rule changes that benefit the offense. Add-in flopping, non calls for traveling, palming, etc. it's all skewed to benefit the offense.
Don’t forget IMO the biggest difference is no arm bar. Jordan was constantly getting an arm in the back and he still was able to score on anyone. Can you imagine Jordan today with no arm bar. He’d get 50 a night.
