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Opt outs attending Bowl Games.

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That doesn't make sense unless they are paying their way. Actually don't think they should be with the team.
 
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No opt out for FSU. Even first round picks. That’s a true program. Great culture.
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“What if ?”

”What if their teammates and coaches DON’T want them there ?

WHY would a coach want a quitter who bailed on him and the team, to join them ?
The OP was presumably watching games that showed the opt-outs there on the sidelines. I don’t see any reason for those players to be there unless their teammates and coaches wanted them to be there.
 
The OP was presumably watching games that showed the opt-outs there on the sidelines. I don’t see any reason for those players to be there unless their teammates and coaches wanted them to be there.
I can’t imagine a coach wanting a player who abandoned him and the team on the sidelines during an important game.

Those players abandoned their teammates when they needed them the most, so why do they want to join them now ?
 
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I’d rather not see opt outs on the sideline. I have mixed feelings about it but I’m more of the mindset that if you’re opting out you should be paying tuition.
 
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“What if ?”

”What if their teammates and coaches DON’T want them there ?

WHY would a coach want a quitter who bailed on him and the team, to join them ?
when team starts training for a D1 upcoming season they have goals.Win your conference, win ur rivalry games and win a championship. no one says can't wait for the walgreens bowl in now where land. these kids thst have the opportunity to opt out have made there colleges a lot of money. they can go to one more game, ots ok.
 
when team starts training for a D1 upcoming season they have goals.Win your conference, win ur rivalry games and win a championship. no one says can't wait for the walgreens bowl in now where land. these kids thst have the opportunity to opt out have made there colleges a lot of money. they can go to one more game, ots ok.
They haven’t made a dime for their colleges !

The game, not the individual players is the attraction.

If Mayer or Foskey never played for Notre Dame would you be less of a Notre Dame fan ?

Would ND’s revenues be reduced ?

“IF” you’re a competitor, every game matters and especially a bowl game !

If you opt out, if you quit your team, go sit in the stands !
 
I can’t imagine a coach wanting a player who abandoned him and the team on the sidelines during an important game.

Those players abandoned their teammates when they needed them the most, so why do they want to join them now ?
Not sure why they'd be there if the coach and team didn't want them there—are they forcing their way there?
 
“What if ?”

”What if their teammates and coaches DON’T want them there ?

WHY would a coach want a quitter who bailed on him and the team, to join them ?
They wouldn't be there if the coach didn't allow it. Not that hard to figure out. Players fully understand also.
 
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I can’t imagine a coach wanting a player who abandoned him and the team on the sidelines during an important game.

Those players abandoned their teammates when they needed them the most, so why do they want to join them now ?
What important game ? You think these consolation games are important ? The single biggest benefit to being in a non playoff post season exhibition game is the extra practice time.
 
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I’d rather not see opt outs on the sideline. I have mixed feelings about it but I’m more of the mindset that if you’re opting out you should be paying tuition.
Tuition for what ? The semester is over. None of the opt outs will be back in school for the next semester. They'll be training for the combine and draft.
 
What important game ? You think these consolation games are important ? The single biggest benefit to being in a non playoff post season exhibition game is the extra practice time.
I see that you’ve come out of hiding ……. Why ?

One would think that you as a former player would think that this game was important to every player that is going to play in this game.

Maybe natural competitiveness wasn’t in your DNA.
 
Like most things pylon pat just doesn't understand.
“Understand” ?

Like understanding that you challenged me to a bet which I immediately accepted and then you reneged on the bet and went slinking off under the excuse that you had to make some soup ?

Is that the “understanding“ that you’re referring to ?
 
Tuition for what ? The semester is over. None of the opt outs will be back in school for the next semester. They'll be training for the combine and draft.
Exams are December 12-16. Most opt out way before that and aren’t practicing either. Pay for the last month or practice.
 
If they are technically still on the team....its up to the athletic dept and the team to handle travel and logistics....just like any other game.
 
They wouldn't be there if the coach didn't allow it. Not that hard to figure out. Players fully understand also.
You speak of the “players” as if they’re one voice, all in unison, and nothing could be further from the truth.

WHY are you back from exile ?
WHY are you posting again ?
 
Not sure why they'd be there if the coach and team didn't want them there—are they forcing their way there?
I see your point, I guess if I was in a firefight in combat and some of my fellow soldiers abandoned me, I would sure want their moral support ! ! !
Wouldn’t you ?
 
I see your point, I guess if I was in a firefight in combat and some of my fellow soldiers abandoned me, I would sure want their moral support ! ! !
Wouldn’t you ?
Again, I don’t think most of the coaches/players see it as abandonment of the team, which is why opt-outs are either a) asked to be with them during the games or b) opt-outs ask and the coaches/players want them there. If the head coach does not want them there, they wouldn’t be there. We are seeing these opt-out players interacting with their teammates and everyone seeming to accept them—if they as a whole don’t have a problem with them (I’m sure there are a few), how can anyone else really?

Frankly, the opt-out players wanting to be with their teammates shows that they’re still attached (i.e., they could just leave and never come back or care) but are also making calculated business decisions about their respective futures, decisions the coaches/teammates completely understand and would likely make themselves.

Why would the other players think that opt-outs abandoned them? With these players out, younger players who will still be around get a chance to play and prove themselves. Asking a Foskey or Mayer to play one more game that’s not meaningful in any real way to show their commitment or loyalty seems somewhat selfish on the part of fans, many of whom having zero ties to the university.
 
I see your point, I guess if I was in a firefight in combat and some of my fellow soldiers abandoned me, I would sure want their moral support ! ! !
Wouldn’t you ?
I, and most of my fellow vets on here I assume, would suggest a different analogy. Your point is that by not playing...they are depriving the team of their participation. I didn't disagree with that...and only stated that its up to the athletic dept to decide who travels with the team. I would add that you can also look across the field and will find the same set of circumstances on South Carolina's team....and with every team in every bowl game, where transfers and pro prospects apply. You have an opinion...thats about as far as it goes. And you might want to lose the large bold print. My old eyes could thank you...but really, its a bit much.
 
Again, I don’t think most of the coaches/players see it as abandonment of the team, which is why opt-outs are either a) asked to be with them during the games or b) opt-outs ask and the coaches/players want them there. If the head coach does not want them there, they wouldn’t be there. We are seeing these opt-out players interacting with their teammates and everyone seeming to accept them—if they as a whole don’t have a problem with them (I’m sure there are a few), how can anyone else really?

Frankly, the opt-out players wanting to be with their teammates shows that they’re still attached (i.e., they could just leave and never come back or care) but are also making calculated business decisions about their respective futures, decisions the coaches/teammates completely understand and would likely make themselves.

Why would the other players think that opt-outs abandoned them? With these players out, younger players who will still be around get a chance to play and prove themselves. Asking a Foskey or Mayer to play one more game that’s not meaningful in any real way to show their commitment or loyalty seems somewhat selfish on the part of fans, many of whom having zero ties to the university.
Bill Snyder at KSU says if you opt out of the team, you opt out of athlete housing, immediately.
 
What psychological impact did opting out have on those who are playing in the game ?

It had to be demoralizing to the degree that it impacts attitude and play.
 
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What psychological impact did opting out have on those who are playing in the game ?

It had to be demoralizing to the degree that it impacts attitude and play.
They didn’t look demoralized at all. In fact, a whole bunch of offensive players got targeted and got chances because Mayer wasn’t in the game.
 
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