Well, it’s honestly starting to get to that point. I think you’re just being overly sensitive to what I wrote. As you are aware, I’ve defended you for your right to have an opinion in the recent past. I’m only saying that you’re being overly negative and should probably tone it down a notch. Your F+ rankings are a decent talking point at times, but they are not without faults.
N.C. State Game Thread
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Well, it’s honestly starting to get to that point. I think you’re just being overly sensitive to what I wrote. As you are aware, I’ve defended you for your right to have an opinion in the recent past. I’m only saying that you’re being overly negative and should probably tone it down a notch. Your F+ rankings are a decent talking point at times, but they are not without faults.
Agreed. I think he might be a difference maker on defense before this season is over. Very impressive.
I like the improvement of Rubio as well. Hopefully he'll be back for OSU
We’ll need him for sure, but I was more than pleasantly surprised that Hinish filled in as well as he did.
They went 8-5 last year, despite losing their QB partway through the season, with wins over FSU and UNC. And Armstrong was one of the leading passers in the country in 2021, at Virginia.
They aren't bad
But Vegas is clueless on this ND team
They were wrong all 3 weeks. 2 being off by double digits
And you were too.
There is nfl talent all over the field
The defense has been really impressive with a lot of players emerging which is a good sign for the future of the program.
Incoming grad transfer Thomas Harper got a lot of work yesterday and was really productive.
Anytime you get good production from unexpected places and all of the rest of your regulars are living up to the hype it's a really good sign of player development.
MF and Golden are getting the job done on that side of the ball.
I responded to this point you made earlier in the thread. My guess is that Vegas had NC State as a 7 point dog not because they respect NC State but more because they don't believe Notre Dame was significantly better (prior to week 2 results). Obviously they were wrong after ND won by 20+ points.
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lol fondle my balls! He's a gift that keeps giving! Never argue with a idiot. They will bring you down to their level! lol
Save your misery, go follow another school, you clearly don't understand this one. I must admit I really didn't think anyone could be this stupid. You post as if they owe you something, well, they don't. The owe the student body and the alumni, who understand what "we are ND" means, and that's it.
You are just as bad as those fans who come on here after a big win over an overmatched opponent and say we are on our way to a national championship. Except in your case, it's a relentless rehash of your opinion that the university doesn't do enough to win at football. And in doing so, you reveal over and over and over again that you have absolutely no idea of what the University of Notre Dame stands for.
In addition, their defense held FSU to 17 pts last year, and they held UNC to 27 in 2 OT, with Drake Maye having one of his worst games of the season. So their defense was very solid last year.
I like how somehow the narrative has been concocted that if you want ND to win football games, and you expect the university to match the loyalty and enthusiasm for the football product that the fans have for it, that it makes you an outsider who doesn't get ND.
All very convenient point of view to continue to excuse away mediocrity and incompetence in perpetuity.
All very convenient point of view to continue to excuse away mediocrity and incompetence in perpetuity.
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NC state had a top 10 defense last year even after you adjust for schedule and luck but they lost key starters on the DL and in their secondary and haven't recruited the type of athletes to maintain a top 10 defense in 2023 and beyond.
After week 1 their defensive efficacy was way down from last year according to F+ which is why their overall ranking is down from last year as well.
NC state is a mid team ranked down in the mid 50s who had a decent record last year (due to a weak schedule). Great defense but equally bad offense to negate it last year.
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We're going in circles now, so I'm gonna bow out of this argument. I've made my point that I consider NC State a dark horse contender for the ACC championship this year, based on coaching, returning players and additions.
3-0
Averaging 47 pts
Giving up a total of 3 tds
AP ranked # 9
is " incompetence "
News to me . If so I'd like to see ND continue with that type of incompetence for the entire season and CFP
I have ZERO complaints about the way ND has opened up the 2023 season. They've been impressive and have surpassed my expectations through three football games. My point is that we've been down this road before and we all need to maintain some level of cautious optimism instead of thinking all the problems have been solved and we are on the fast track to a national title now.
Three victories vs Navy #101, an HBCU FCS team not ranked in the top 133, and #54 NC State. Granted they've been impressive one sided stomps and ND has earned some momentum in the 2023 season as a result.
Good start, but until ND starts winning the teams that matter consistently, there's still a lot to prove and it's ok to criticize and maintain a healthy level of skepticism based on their track record in the meantime.
edit: also, 3 impressive one sided stomps doesn't wipe away an off-season where the program took L after L after L after L after L after L after L
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Games are played on the field during the season troll ....
Not on the Irish rivals Under the Dome site
They play them one at a time
ND s played 3x so far and are
3-0 / and decisively
Can't do better than that
We'll see how the rest of season goes but so far so good
Who would complain except you lol
IT has been mostly good with Parker so far. There are a few dead plays and he does not look like he has complete confidence in his own system from the head shots in the booth.
Okay even if that were true it would be a plus. The last ten years have been a generational peak. You have to go back to peak Holtz to find a ten year stretch as good as the last decade.
But we are likely better. The last decade saddled ND with Rees-bation (starting qb) and BVG (free points). Those factors are not likely to re-occur.
You actually complain a lot.
Yeah, those Vegas guys are clueless !
According to you they know nothing about football, especially Notre Dame football.
I guess that’s why they build billion dollar hotel/casinos and send limos and jets to bring gamblers to Vegas where they comp them with suites, wine, women and shows and still make millions per year.
Three (3) games is a minuscule sampling pool.
NFL talent all over the field would have dominated the game from the opening kickoff.
NFL talent all over the field wouldn’t have the score at 24-17 with 28 seconds left in the third quarter.
You know nothing about football !
Never said they know nothing
You made up another thing i never said because you are a liar
Like I said, Vegas doesnt know this team, they were wrong on all 3 games. 2 of those games by Double digits
Yikes
Nfl talent all over the field that's why we are scoring 47ppg and giving up 10ppg
Maybe Vegas will learn this week
Penn St has played WVU and Delaware
Ohio St has played Indiana and Youngstown
Michigan has played UNLV and East Carolina
Georgia has played UT Martin and Ball St
USC has played San Jose St , Nevada and Stanford
How many of those teams matter consistently ?
Bama, LSU, FSU, Texas, Mich, OSU all have NFL talent all over the field and have had tight games or losses. The 'other guys' give scholarships too
It's nit picking .. but 1st team D has given up 2 TD's... 2nd and 3rd team on that last TD.
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