More smoke on 24 transfer qb

[theskibro]

I think my other post had this guy behind door #2

Riley Leonard path to Notre Dame Football shaped by Jimbo Fisher news

Notre Dame Football could be big beneficiaries of Jimbo Fisher's firing, including getting a brand new quarterback out of the deal. Texas A&M ...

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[Golson5]

This guy is just stating his opinions without any sources

 

[theskibro]

This guy is just stating his opinions without any sources

Yeah. Kinda like everyone. I’m just sharing Mon. All is good sumtin to read.

 

[theskibro]

Yeah. Kinda like everyone. I’m just sharing Mon. All is good sumtin to read.

I think we are going to playoffs undefeated in 24. But I have no sources.

 

[Telx1]

I think we are going to playoffs undefeated in 24. But I have no sources.

Yes you do ski….Bodi!

 

[NDinNJ]

This guy is just stating his opinions without any sources

ok Patty. 😂

 

[savvyandsassier]

Let's go after Michael Pratt. Isn't it true he's going to get a sixth year and is looking to transfer a la Sam Hartman?

 

[FightingIrish44]

Let's go after Michael Pratt. Isn't it true he's going to get a sixth year and is looking to transfer a la Sam Hartman?

He will be a 5th year player with one year left. I doubt anyone knows if he will transfer. Its probably just conjecture IMO.

 

[sjb75]

Let's go after Michael Pratt. Isn't it true he's going to get a sixth year and is looking to transfer a la Sam Hartman?

Michael Pratt has only been in college 3.5 years.

He can either enter a really strong 2024 QB draft group and be drafted, or stay in college.

 

[Pennick4]

Let's go after Michael Pratt. Isn't it true he's going to get a sixth year and is looking to transfer a la Sam Hartman?

Let's not. It's time to develop our own players.

 

[sjb75]

Let's not. It's time to develop our own players.

Easy for you to say. You're not the one being paid big to win games.

 

[savvyandsassier]

Let's not. It's time to develop our own players.

I don't know about that. We need to win now, and MF needs to win now. Ultimately I think that will be the calculation. And our returning QB room depth chart screams 'portal QB needed'....

 

[TDIrish27]

Someone needs to tell this brain surgeon that Duke isn't in Raleigh NC.

 

[Pennick4]

Easy for you to say. You're not the one being paid big to win games.

He is in charge of the of the program. This isn't USC or Colorado.

 

[Terry Jillery]

Let's not. It's time to develop our own players.

We have Parker. Lol.

 

[Pennick4]

I don't know about that. We need to win now, and MF needs to win now. Ultimately I think that will be the calculation. And our returning QB room depth chart screams 'portal QB needed'....

I don't agree.

 

[sjb75]

He is in charge of the of the program. This isn't USC or Colorado.

Of course if you are Marcus Freeman you do your due diligence and if there is a grad transfer that upgrades the QB room, you take him.

 

[scubastevefl]

Anybody else see a problem when ND can’t recruit or develop a better QB than Duke or Tulane?

GO GET ARCH from the portal if you’re serious about winning. (When he enters).

 

[Pennick4]

Of course if you are Marcus Freeman you do your due diligence and if there is a grad transfer that upgrades the QB room, you take him.

He is in charge of the program.

 

[sjb75]

Anybody else see a problem when ND can’t recruit or develop a better QB than Duke or Tulane?

GO GET ARCH from the portal if you’re serious about winning. (When he enters).

No, I don't.

And "Arch..." isn't a grad transfer. And he isn't good enough to play in the two deep at Texas.

 

[NDinNJ]

Easy for you to say. You're not the one being paid big to win games.

How did that work out this season?

 

[sjb75]

How did that work out this season?

Well, if they win out. 9-3 beats 8-4.

Beats losing to 3-9 Stanford at home.

 

[NDinNJ]

Well, if they win out. 9-3 beats 8-4.

Beats losing to 3-9 Stanford at home.

A net one game gain? 😂 What a waste!

 

[sjb75]

A net one game gain? 😂 What a waste!

Better than no gain, and it beats losing to Stanford at home.

 

[NDinNJ]

Better than no gain, and it beats losing to Stanford at home.

When you bring in a 6th year grad student, it's playoffs or bust. That was a failed experiment.
It's different if ND can get a Caleb Williams or Jayden Daniels talent from the portal, but going after a mediocre QB is dumb, develop who you've recruited.

 

[sjb75]

When you bring in a 6th year grad student, it's playoffs or bust. That was a failed experiment.
It's different if ND can get a Caleb Williams or Jayden Daniels talent from the portal, but going after a mediocre QB is dumb, develop who you've recruited.

Sam Hartman didn't send out 10 guys on defense after a timeout with the game on the line against Ohio St., Sam Hartman did not hire the OC, and Sam Hartman can't control the WR room, which was average at best.

Calling Sam Hartman a "failed experiment..." is disingenuous. Many things failed this season.

 

[FightingIrish44]

A net one game gain? 😂 What a waste!

Nobody can predict for certain what next year’s record will be. That’s why they play the games. I doubt Buchner or Pyne give ND the chance to beat OSU like Hartman did.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Sam Hartman didn't send out 10 guys on defense after a timeout with the game on the line against Ohio St., Sam Hartman did not hire the OC, and Sam Hartman can't control the WR room.

Calling Sam Hartman a "failed experiment..." is disingenuous. Many things failed this season.

100% agree. It’s ridiculous IMO to turn away Hartman or any scholarship QB that wants to come to ND after this season. Bring in the best players.

A freshman, sophomore, and junior is a young QB room. Pratt is a fifth year with around 40 starts after this year.

 

[Pennick4]

Sam Hartman didn't send out 10 guys on defense after a timeout with the game on the line against Ohio St., Sam Hartman did not hire the OC, and Sam Hartman can't control the WR room.

Calling Sam Hartman a "failed experiment..." is disingenuous. Many things failed this season.

Including going to the portal...

 

[sjb75]

100% agree. It’s ridiculous IMO to turn away Hartman or any scholarship QB that wants to come to ND after this season. Bring in the best players.

A freshman, sophomore, and junior is a young QB room. Pratt is a fifth year with around 40 starts after this year.

And add to that an OL that simply didn't perform, especially the interior of the OL.

 

[sjb75]

100% agree. It’s ridiculous IMO to turn away Hartman or any scholarship QB that wants to come to ND after this season. Bring in the best players.

A freshman, sophomore, and junior is a young QB room. Pratt is a fifth year with around 40 starts after this year.

Steve Angeli and Kenny Minchey played zero meaningful snaps this season because they aren't good enough to do so, according to the coaches.

And my guess is there will be a grad transfer QB for 2024.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Steve Angeli and Kenny Minchey played zero meaningful snaps this season because they aren't good enough to do so, according to the coaches.

And my guess is there will be a grad transfer QB for 2024.

Wow.....who recruited them?

 

[NDinNJ]

Sam Hartman didn't send out 10 guys on defense after a timeout with the game on the line against Ohio St., Sam Hartman did not hire the OC, and Sam Hartman can't control the WR room, which was average at best.

Calling Sam Hartman a "failed experiment..." is disingenuous. Many things failed this season.

Sam Hartman didn't make the throw that should have sealed the win vs OSU

Sam Hartman 5 TD's 7 INT's in his last 5 games. That's on him, not on the coaches. He's not very good, he's average. If he was good, he would have opted out of his 6th year.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Sam Hartman didn't send out 10 guys on defense after a timeout with the game on the line against Ohio St., Sam Hartman did not hire the OC, and Sam Hartman can't control the WR room, which was average at best.

Calling Sam Hartman a "failed experiment..." is disingenuous. Many things failed this season.

Agree

 

[Telx1]

We have three talented inexperienced scholarship QBs entering next season. Personally, I’d like to have a fourth with meaningful experience. In today’s NIL and open transfer world, the portal is just an extension of your recruiting efforts. We either go to the portal for depth or upgrade, and if there’s a qb in the portal that is a clear upgrade, you make your recruiting pitch to come in and compete.

 

[deadirishpoet]

I don't know about that. We need to win now, and MF needs to win now. Ultimately I think that will be the calculation. And our returning QB room depth chart screams 'portal QB needed'....

It will be year three

 

[NDinNJ]

We have three talented inexperienced scholarship QBs entering next season. Personally, I’d like to have a fourth with meaningful experience. In today’s NIL and open transfer world, the portal is just an extension of your recruiting efforts. We either go to the portal for depth or upgrade, and if there’s a qb in the portal that is a clear upgrade, you make your recruiting pitch to come in and compete.

And Minchey as well as Angeli are probably gone.

 

[deadirishpoet]

We have three talented inexperienced scholarship QBs entering next season. Personally, I’d like to have a fourth with meaningful experience. In today’s NIL and open transfer world, the portal is just an extension of your recruiting efforts. We either go to the portal for depth or upgrade, and if there’s a qb in the portal that is a clear upgrade, you make your recruiting pitch to come in and compete.

From what I've read they are not very talented according to the coaching staff

 

[ndhuntington]

I don't care who the qb is our oc sucks, our wrs suck, oline has regressed. We need a running qb for sure.

 

[notredamerises23]

Anybody else see a problem when ND can’t recruit or develop a better QB than Duke or Tulane?

GO GET ARCH from the portal if you’re serious about winning. (When he enters).

This is just the world of college football now, and it’s just really not as simple as developing your own quarterback. Fourth year and fifth year quarterbacks are going to be better than even talented, younger quarterbacks, and the only exceptions are the elite, elite quarterbacks, which we can’t seem to get.

Do you think any one of our quarterbacks will be better than Riley Leonard or Michael Pratt? I doubt it.