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Minchey officially Irish!

I also would take this kid over Moore; who is a true diva and I want no QB at ND who is like that. They are almost always more trouble then they are worth

As regards Chase's pathological hatred of someone he never met, its exactly like Zorich88 on Carr.

Simply put, both need professional help.
 
I agree with you my dude.

On a different note, 113 messages and you’ve been a member since 2001? My god man, step it up.
I'll do my best. Been a fan since the 60's. My aunt was a professor at ND. My daughter was recruited for academics. My son could have had a full ride but didn't want to attend a small school. I am seeing growth in Freeman. He's a quick learner. I remember Kelly saying we shop down a different lane then other schools. So far we are out shopping him. I like to watch things play out. Not overreact like so many do.
 
Sorry I'm not impressed. A 3 star QB who has had two shoulder injuries and only one Power 5 offer and that was from Pitt. Time will tell but damn, ND has to do better than this.
 
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Sorry I'm not impressed. A 3 star QB who has had two shoulder injuries and only one Power 5 offer and that was from Pitt. Time will tell but damn, ND has to do better than this.
a fair number of scout services rate him very well
And you look at the history of the NC ND QBs and how many of them were higher rated coming out of high school?
AND look at all the higher rated QBs that never did much of anything or who did not live up to those ratings.

I think its reasonable to call him a 4 star; rivals seem to be the only ones that REALLY don't like him and frankly I have never had that much respect for rivals anyway.

And look at the results of all the higher rated QBs Notre Dame has had over the last 30 years or so.

NONE of them have a NC in their resume, do they?
 
Sorry I'm not impressed. A 3 star QB who has had two shoulder injuries and only one Power 5 offer and that was from Pitt. Time will tell but damn, ND has to do better than this.
What have you done to research who this kid is, and what he can do besides looking at his star ranking, which you got wrong? His is a 4 star, since that means so much to you. Please answer, or remove your nonsense post. Do you know why he has so few offers? Heck just reading this thread would reveal that answer.
 
I'll say this again, if on a scale of 1-10, Rees is a 7 as a QB coach, any QB that is below a 7 is going to excel up to a 7 and max out there. If a QB that is an 8, 9, or 10 on a scale of 1-10 there's a good chance you'll see regression down to the QB coaches, coaching ability.

I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but like I said I'm not getting overly hyped about any QB. Too many disappointments over the past 12 years.

Crist
Wimbush
Golson
Zaire
PJ
...and the list goes on
How many times have we seen over the past 12 years a highly touted recruit get beat out by a 3 star recruit. I just don't buy the fact that ND missed on every one of these 4 and 5 star recruits. Rees wasn't there for all of them, and that's why i'm still hopeful Rees can get it done.
So you also blame Rees for the QBs at ND while he was with Wash, San Diego and NW?

That is a little harsh
 
There are too many examples of quarterbacks who defied their rankings....Rankings aren't my first concern...its measurables. If it is a priority in recruiting other positions (take your pick, O line, D line, tight end...etc....and it is...it needs to be a stubborn priority at quarterback. That is not the case with Minchey...who checks those boxes. Its about time.
 
There are too many examples of quarterbacks who defied their rankings....Rankings aren't my first concern...its measurables. If it is a priority in recruiting other positions (take your pick, O line, D line, tight end...etc....and it is...it needs to be a stubborn priority at quarterback. That is not the case with Minchey...who checks those boxes. Its about time.
start out with physical measurables;

Height
weight
agility
speed is variable; depending on what type of QB he can be- I want a kid that can dodge the rush well
Arm strength. Got to be able to fling it deep enough to make the D worry about the bomb
Accuracy- some can get better there but many cannot

After that it is all mental; watching how a kid goes through the recruiting process will tell you a lot about what kind of kid he is

He has to be SMART; not just football smart as this is ND

and he has to be someone who is not going to get caught stealing crab legs

after all that is when you look at the tape
 
Explain to me how rivals has him as a 3 star? The only recruiting service that does not have him as a 4 star. Chosen as one of the best 11 QB's in the country by the Elite 11 folks and scored well against that competition. How are they so shitty at ranking Kenny? Do they even watch tape?
There are too many examples of quarterbacks who defied their rankings....Rankings aren't my first concern...its measurables. If it is a priority in recruiting other positions (take your pick, O line, D line, tight end...etc....and it is...it needs to be a stubborn priority at quarterback. That is not the case with Minchey...who checks those boxes. Its about time.
Freeman era is graded by Minchey and Carr... looks like a great start!!!!
 
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I'll say this again, if on a scale of 1-10, Rees is a 7 as a QB coach, any QB that is below a 7 is going to excel up to a 7 and max out there. If a QB that is an 8, 9, or 10 on a scale of 1-10 there's a good chance you'll see regression down to the QB coaches, coaching ability.

I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but like I said I'm not getting overly hyped about any QB. Too many disappointments over the past 12 years.

Crist
Wimbush
Golson
Zaire
PJ
...and the list goes on
How many times have we seen over the past 12 years a highly touted recruit get beat out by a 3 star recruit. I just don't buy the fact that ND missed on every one of these 4 and 5 star recruits. Rees wasn't there for all of them, and that's why i'm still hopeful Rees can get it done.
Actually Rees wasn't there for any of them... (well, Phil for a year but Chip Long ran the offense and was an asshole to Phil who never played, so we'll never know about Phil) so unfortunately your point makes no sense. Rees did make a low 3* Ian Book an NFL draft pick and the winningest QB in ND history. He also took a guy who lost his job to a Freshman as Wisconsin, I'm talking Coan and got us to a ten win season with two Freshman starting on the o-line, and got Coan into the NFL conversation. Rees only now has had the opportunity to coach anyone as good as Buchner (the early results were not great, but I don't think we can judge on two games) or now Minchey and CJ. I just hope Rees sticks around so we can prove your scale wrong! Happy Thanksgiving!
 
Actually Rees wasn't there for any of them... (well, Phil for a year but Chip Long ran the offense and was an asshole to Phil who never played, so we'll never know about Phil) so unfortunately your point makes no sense. Rees did make a low 3* Ian Book an NFL draft pick and the winningest QB in ND history. He also took a guy who lost his job to a Freshman as Wisconsin, I'm talking Coan and got us to a ten win season with two Freshman starting on the o-line, and got Coan into the NFL conversation. Rees only now has had the opportunity to coach anyone as good as Buchner (the early results were not great, but I don't think we can judge on two games) or now Minchey and CJ. I just hope Rees sticks around so we can prove your scale wrong! Happy Thanksgiving!
A QB coach is graded on how what he gets is developed more than anything else.
 
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Actually Rees wasn't there for any of them... (well, Phil for a year but Chip Long ran the offense and was an asshole to Phil who never played, so we'll never know about Phil) so unfortunately your point makes no sense. Rees did make a low 3* Ian Book an NFL draft pick and the winningest QB in ND history. He also took a guy who lost his job to a Freshman as Wisconsin, I'm talking Coan and got us to a ten win season with two Freshman starting on the o-line, and got Coan into the NFL conversation. Rees only now has had the opportunity to coach anyone as good as Buchner (the early results were not great, but I don't think we can judge on two games) or now Minchey and CJ. I just hope Rees sticks around so we can prove your scale wrong! Happy Thanksgiving!
What would Book have been if he had Minchey or Carr's talent? What would Pyne be if he had CJ Stroud's talent? It is no secret that I am not a Buchner fan. I don't think Rees will have major success with him. I like Minchey and Carr and think there is a star in there. Probably two.
 
You should read. My last sentence stated Rees wasn't at ND for all of them.
I thought you inferred, repeatedly, that Rees has killed any progress of the QBs…and thus the 12 years had connections to him in some fashion

Tough to separate your thoughts through all the Kelly and Rees bashing
 
What would Book have been if he had Minchey or Carr's talent? What would Pyne be if he had CJ Stroud's talent? It is no secret that I am not a Buchner fan. I don't think Rees will have major success with him. I like Minchey and Carr and think there is a star in there. Probably two.
Isn’t Book the winningest QB in ND history ?
 
Sorry I'm not impressed. A 3 star QB who has had two shoulder injuries and only one Power 5 offer and that was from Pitt. Time will tell but damn, ND has to do better than this.

To build QB depth, you can't just recruit all five stars. Super highly rated kids at QB who don't get enough playing time simply transfer. You need at least a couple of QBs who are willing to sit for a year or three and develop. Sometimes they develop into an NFL draft pick.
 
To build QB depth, you can't just recruit all five stars. Super highly rated kids at QB who don't get enough playing time simply transfer. You need at least a couple of QBs who are willing to sit for a year or three and develop. Sometimes they develop into an NFL draft pick.
Hard to ask for a much better QB room than Minchey and Carr. That’s an elite room.
 
It’s going to take a Top 5 pick or string of 1st rounders at the position for the position to hit the levels many are asking for.
I think we have two top 5 QBs. Minchey is a top 5 QB according to SI. Carr is a top 5 QB according to many. I still think CJ will move up from where he is bc he’s a beast when he competes at camps. This usually boosts you a bit. I expect he will have a big senior season. I imagine he will compete again as a senior at the E11. He has a legit chance to win the overall competition. I think we have what we need. Someone’s going to be sweet.

It will be very interesting to see how Minchey does and what we hear about practices at the AA.
 
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I think we have two top 5 QBs. Minchey is a top 5 QB according to SI. Carr is a top 5 QB according to many. I still think CJ will move up from where he is bc he’s a beast when he competes at camps. This usually boosts you a bit. I expect he will have a big senior season. I imagine he will compete again as a senior at the E11. He has a legit chance to win the overall competition. I think we have what we need. Someone’s going to be sweet.

It will be very interesting to see how Minchey does and what we hear about practices at the AA.
I definitely think both QBs possess first round attributes, but I’m talking about Freemen getting a QB or two in the top 5 of the draft on his resume.

If one of those two guys turns into a legit NFL top 5 pick our fortunes turn quickly in the talent acquisition sense at the position
 
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You are worthless

Everything you stand for or believe in is worthless

You are hopeless and worthless all tied up into one

If you want to continue your insults towards me then LETS GO!!!!!

You are a pathetic human being that no loves or cares for. You have zero friends

You probably watch every ND game by yourself

You pathetic piece of garbage

Stay off my back you piece of shit
 
You are worthless

Everything you stand for or believe in is worthless

You are hopeless and worthless all tied up into one

If you want to continue your insults towards me then LETS GO!!!!!

You are a pathetic human being that no loves or cares for. You have zero friends

You probably watch every ND game by yourself

You pathetic piece of garbage

Stay off my back you piece of shit
Are you alright?
 
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Are you alright?
Are you alright?
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To be honest, I am going through some tough times in life. I come on this board for some fun ND football talk. Talking ND football helps me get my mind off the troubles. This board helps me do that.

But I am so tired of the personal attacks. I only want to talk ND football. I never call names or get personal. In the past when posters that love ND football like me, make personal digs at me, I just to laugh it off and something funny in response.

But now, I am facing some hard times in life and these attacks on me only add to what my family and I are going through. Again, I come here for a sense of relief from life but I might just need to shut down my account here and just watch ND football and be fine with that.

Just being open and honest brother”s. No woe is me. God will bring us through this
 
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To be honest, I am going through some tough times in life. I come on this board for some fun ND football talk. Talking ND football helps me get my mind off the troubles. This board helps me do that.

But I am so tired of the personal attacks. I only want to talk ND football. I never call names or get personal. In the past when posters that love ND football like me, make personal digs at me, I just to laugh it off and something funny in response.

But now, I am facing some hard times in life and these attacks on me only add to what my family and I are going through. Again, I come here for a sense of relief from life but I might just need to shut down my account here and just watch ND football and be fine with that.

Just being open and honest brother”s. No woe is me. God will bring us through this
Z sorry to hear of your trials. God is your strong fortress and will see you through tough times. And, us prayer warriors on this forum, they know who they are, will remember you. Like you, I am currently facing some health adversities and put my trust in God. “Some trust in chariots, some in horses, but we will remember the name of the Lord our God”.
 
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Z sorry to hear of your trials. God is your strong fortress and will see you through tough times. And, us prayer warriors on this forum, they know who they are, will remember you. Like you, I am currently facing some health adversities and put my trust in God. “Some trust in chariots, some in horse, but we will remember the name of the Lord our God”.
Thank you brother!!! I really appreciate you! Thank you for your prayers and scriptures, means a lot to me!
 
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To be honest, I am going through some tough times in life. I come on this board for some fun ND football talk. Talking ND football helps me get my mind off the troubles. This board helps me do that.

But I am so tired of the personal attacks. I only want to talk ND football. I never call names or get personal. In the past when posters that love ND football like me, make personal digs at me, I just to laugh it off and something funny in response.

But now, I am facing some hard times in life and these attacks on me only add to what my family and I are going through. Again, I come here for a sense of relief from life but I might just need to shut down my account here and just watch ND football and be fine with that.

Just being open and honest brother”s. No woe is me. God will bring us through this

Hang in there, brother.

As WWII US Army General "Vinegar" Joe Stillwell is famously reputed to have said: "Illegitimi non carborundum"; Don't let the bastards get you down.
 
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