Officially Official Orange Bowl ND v. PSU Game Thread
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Cross and the dline has to get a shaking as it can… they got worked today … and lbs were confused at times
IDK. Underthrown ball, ND player in front. Ball doesn’t even make it to PSU. There was no contact. No impeding him. That would not have been called 99 out of 100 and never should in a game like that. Maybe they are not intentionally trying but they sure are not fairly calling it both ways. In the end, we over came the 2 pick reversals
nobody is putting up 40 on ND but yea, we need to play without a ref crew spotting them 2 TD’s.
Texas can win tonight. They're talented enough to play with Ohio State. They have a very good defense.
No matter who wins tonight, ND has to play better than how they played in the first half last night
As always ChaseHisBalls shows his LOW FOOTBALL IQ. His comment didn't age well.
Is this the best response you've got? 😂 You have a very low football IQ. You are clueless,
There's a faction of the fan base that thinks NDs talent/athletes/skill players are studs on level of high BIG10 & SEC lol
I stand by this quote 100%
Yes ND got the win in a close 50-50 game (which is how I predicted this game would go by the way) but their lack of individual playmaking on the perimeter and at the offensive skill positions in general has been their achilles heel all season
I stand by this quote 100%
Yes ND got the win in a close 50-50 game (which is how I predicted this game would go by the way) but their lack of individual playmaking on the perimeter and at the offensive skill positions in general has been their achilles heel all season
ChaseHisBalls has a low football IQ. You can stick your F+ up your ass. ND just keeps winning. They beat #4 and #2 BIG10 teams, and the #1 SEC team with a decimated OL and DL. Literally lost all depth on the line on both sides of the ball and they are beating teams that can rotate fresh legs into the game on the lines where ND is very limited and is unable to do the same. Thats why you're an idiot and have low football IQ because you don't see that. You're too focused on computer models. You're a an idiot and mentally challenged.
He's in part debating, trolling, and cares.
But academically, he does often confuse correlation and causation...and I'm not sold on F+ regardless in terms of prediction.
Data Science/Analytics are informative, but still ultimately a tool to aid human decisioning.
Coaches and players must make the decisions on the field.
Fine, study statistics, but how much does that really help in the actual decisions? Hard to even study that.
I know, that was such a total BS call. It should have its own thread. He was barely interfered with, while Kiser was like, several feet away from the play, didn't interfere with anyone, because he couldn't, he wasn't even in the guy's immediate physical space. And he swoops in to make the pick and they still call it.
That should be like in the rules, like if the ball is tipped. And if somebody comes in out of nowhere and makes a spectacular play then there's no interference. It renders it invalid.
I'll wade into this on academic interest.
According to the letter of the law, the refs can call interference...never turned his head and seems to make some contact.
According to the spirit of the law...too much gray area even seeing replays, as it's hard to judge if the soft contact was within range and impacting enough.
My conclusion is don't give the ref an opportunity to make a call where there is gray area and judgement.
Honestly, I don't think it was egregiously a bad call...could have gone either way.
The no holding call earlier was egregiously bad.
Well I don't know what the rules exactly are either, but let's do a little thought experiment. And say the pass is more of a frozen rope, 30 yards down the middle of the field, not a lot of air under it. And the WR's being held and interfered with, and pass interference is taking place. But, a safety swoops across, let's say a full five yards in front of the WR and the CB man marking and interfering him, with plenty of green grass and daylight between himself and the rules violation taking place on the intended WR, but in no way part of that action or hindering the WR himself, and gets the pick.
Is that still pass interference? I would say it's not. Definitely not. Because that's basically what happened with Kizer. He wasn't five yards in front of the pass, but he was several feet in front, and he himself didn't interfere at all and I would submit the WR had no chance at the ball with or without any interference committed on himself by a different player, which was slight. It was a wounded duck, underthrown pass with too much air under it and that's why Kizer was able cut in front and make the play. And we know that the rules do try to account for such circumstances when it comes to the much agonized over PI rule, like if the ball is tipped. So I say that was a bullshit call.
I don't think it was 5 yards. But assuming it was, per your example, you still run the risk of being called on strict letter of the law.
You'd need to change the rule to have a specification on what is the maximum distance for a zone of interference...which would be really hard for a ref to see in real time.
BTW: consider how nebulous the term catchable is...depends on so many factors, as not even distance suffices...as player speed makes it relative. Soccer similarly is full of controversy on if an offside player was or wasn't interfering, never mind assessing if a handball was because of an unnatural position...the smartest players try to avoid it being such a margin.
Would you cite the plays where the LB’s were confused ?
Cite the quarter and the game clock
Thanks
Almost cost us the game but, he responded. Need 1 more clean game, 2 picks won't get it done in the NC game!!
