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michgian men, the cheating way............

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding of the NCAA scouting rules.

  • There is no rule against sign stealing as such (everyone seems to understand this one)
  • The rule that forbids recording an opponent’s signals ONLY applies to a team when it’s on a field for a game. So you can't video live games signals to help de-code those signals during that game.
  • A football program CAN hire third parties to scout future opponents in person. Seats can be bought, scouts can be re-embursed, etc. And those 3rd party scouts are free to record signals.
If Stalions scouted in person himself in 2022 (the year he was hired) or '23, then that will be a violation. His paying for seats, having others scout, and those scouts using their phones to record are not against the rules. Ohio State fans in the stands are free to record Michigan's signs, put those videos up on YT, and then Ryan Day is free to watch those videos to his heart's content. All of that is within the NCAA's rules.
A lot of behaviors suggesting otherwise

Mich could have stated such instead of pushing the “rogue” narrative
 
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Yes: that is how the message board wars are fought. I am fully aware.

The only way this gets settled this season is if the NCAA and Michigan lawyers come to some sort of deal. Otherwise, it will drag well into 2024 at least.
The past aways comes back to haunt
 
It doesn't have to----Big Ten Commish has the authority to drop the hammer.

If he chooses not to what is he even there for ?
 
Wow- there is some online chatter that Michigan hacked Ohio St. cloud server to view practice videos. This happened about 10 months ago and related to firing of offensive coordinator Matt Weiss.
 
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If it is proven Harbaugh lied about it that will ruin his credibility. How can you let a guy like that recruit your kid? Hard to believe he would be so dumb to do this, but here we are.
 
Of course. But they are well versed in narrative and they have a surrogate doing for them

They don't have a direct personal connection to the Washington Post though.

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And I see that the brainless one who knows nothing about football is back.

I got side tracked by a great weekend in Miami Beach !
You should study what run blitz means

Marcus runs a seminar, Football for Dummies, you have a lifetime membership
 
Yeah, you got a timeout from Tyler James
So what ?

Are you dumb enough to think it impacted my life ?
Evidently so !

I went to Florida, played golf with two great friends who flew in from Charlotte and Orlando and then I went to Miami Beach and had a really, really great time.
You can’t be dumb enough to think that I was distraught about this site ?
I guess you are !

Are you aware of the conversations that Tyler and I had ?

The whining wimps on this site who get their nose bloodied because they get offended or wilt when challenged, and/or lose a debate, or get called a moron, which shatters their fragile egos, causing them to complain like little girls to Tyler, hold little in the way of any respect in my eyes.

Despite all of the names I’ve been called, despite being erroneously called a liar, I never complained to Tyler, not once, nor would I ever. You can call me every name in the book and I would NEVER complain to Tyler. I’m not a whining little pussy like those who do complain !

You‘d have to be a total wimp, a spineless excuse for a man to go whining to Tyler.
But I guess that description fits a number of posters and they know who they are.

By the way, why didn’t you name the others given a time out ?

Answer, because you’re not a man of character, you’re not a man of integrity !

OUCH !
 
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You should study what run blitz means

Marcus runs a seminar, Football for Dummies, you have a lifetime membership
That’s correct, in return for being retained as an unpaid consultant by MF and a sometimes lecturer for his seminar series I was also given a lifetime contract by MF, including the responsibility of recruiting potential candidates for the seminar series.

When I was asked who would be strong candidates for attending the series I omitted your name and Goldon5’s name.

When he asked me why, I told him that even the fundamentals of “football for dummies” was far too sophisticated for you and Golson5, and that he needed to conduct even more basic seminars for morons and total morons and he said, “do you mean a seminar series for morons like BGI User 756 and Golson5 ?” And I said, “exactly, so you know them.”
And he said, “unfortunately, yes ! “

I’ll let you know the date of the first seminar !

OUCH !
 
So what ?

Are you dumb enough to think it impacted my life ?
Evidently so !

I went to Florida, played golf with two great friends who flew in from Charlotte and Orlando and then I went to Miami Beach and had a really, really great time.
You can’t be dumb enough to think that I was distraught about this site ?
I guess you are !

Are you aware of the conversations that Tyler and I had ?

The whining wimps on this site who get their nose bloodied because they get offended or wilt when challenged, and/or lose a debate, or get called a moron, which shatters their fragile egos, causing them to complain like little girls to Tyler, hold little in the way of any respect in my eyes.

Despite all of the names I’ve been called, despite being erroneously called a liar, I never complained to Tyler, not once, nor would I ever. You can call me every name in the book and I would NEVER complain to Tyler. I’m not a whining little pussy like those who do complain !

You‘d have to be a total wimp, a spineless excuse for a man to go whining to Tyler.
But I guess that description fits a number of posters and they know who they are.

By the way, why didn’t you name the others given a time out ?

Answer, because you’re not a man of character, you’re not a man of integrity !

OUCH !
Yup sounds like you took your timeout well. You got some serious issues and need to seek professional help. This is no way to spend your golden years.
 
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Yup sounds like you took your timeout well. You got some serious issues and need to seek professional help. This is no way to spend your golden years.
Just curious, what medical school did you graduate from.

I can tell you, without fear of contradiction, that very few people enjoy their “golden years” as much as I enjoy mine.

I’ve been blessed, I’ve been very lucky, and despite a few serious bumps in the road, I enjoy and intend to continue to enjoy a fabulous life.
 
Just curious, what medical school did you graduate from.

I can tell you, without fear of contradiction, that very few people enjoy their “golden years” as much as I enjoy mine.

I’ve been blessed, I’ve been very lucky, and despite a few serious bumps in the road, I enjoy and intend to continue to enjoy a fabulous life.
It doesnt look like that from here. You come across as short tempered & immature. Maybe your online persona is different from your real life but a person that has a "fabulous life" usually doesnt have a mod ban them from a message board because they dont play with others. Just sayin...
 
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Michigan definitely gained a huge edge by using Stalions intel. They went from an average team in 2019-2020 to a playoff contender overnight. Their record against the spread is unheard of in recent times. This "rogue agent" theory Michigan is trying to put out is bs, as Stallions was joined at the hip to DC Minter and a close to Harbaugh on the sidelines. What analyst has such access? The other 13 teams hate Michigan for this cheating and they won't get off with a slap on the wrist or probation. The NCAA will rule Stallions committed a Level One violation and by new guidelines after the Bruce Pearl scandal, the charges levied against an assistant apply automatically to the head coach also. Harbaugh claiming ignorance won't matter and possibly could land UM a Lack of Institutional Control charge.
 
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That’s correct, in return for being retained as an unpaid consultant by MF and a sometimes lecturer for his seminar series I was also given a lifetime contract by MF, including the responsibility of recruiting potential candidates for the seminar series.

When I was asked who would be strong candidates for attending the series I omitted your name and Goldon5’s name.

When he asked me why, I told him that even the fundamentals of “football for dummies” was far too sophisticated for you and Golson5, and that he needed to conduct even more basic seminars for morons and total morons and he said, “do you mean a seminar series for morons like BGI User 756 and Golson5 ?” And I said, “exactly, so you know them.”
And he said, “unfortunately, yes ! “

I’ll let you know the date of the first seminar !

OUCH !
Name dropping again Patrice? Can’t help yourself

Oh, my…you hurt my feelings …
 
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Name dropping again Patrice? Can’t help yourself

Oh, my…you hurt my feelings …
You’re so incredibly stupid that you can’t see parody when it smacks you in the face.

God you’re dumb !


OUCH !
 
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You’re so incredibly stupid that you can’t see parody when it smacks you in the face.

God you’re dumb !


OUCH !
ahh, to be so perfect as you, Patrice. Piling up those name drops. Sure you don't have to get to Air Force One to fly to the ME and negotiate a cease-fire? Or maybe get a pedicure with Tom Brady? Perhaps go parade around State College with your JoePa t-shirt? Fly to Vegas and bet with the big boys? C'mon, I'm sure there are some 60 yr old waitresses you can tip BIG!!
 
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Michigan cannot comment directly as to the agreement to cooperate with the NCAA.
This is pretty much a comment.



The University of Michigan has rescinded a new contract offer for head football coach Jim Harbaugh in the wake of a sign-stealing scandal that has rocked one of the favorites to play for college football’s national championship, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The move is the first sign that the school may be hesitant about its future relationship with the famed coach who revived its football program and is frequently cited as a candidate for jobs in the National Football League. Harbaugh’s pay had been cut during the pandemic, but he was given a new contract just last year after bringing the team back to national prominence.

The Wolverines’ title chase this year put him in line for another raise. Michigan recently had made an offer that would have made Harbaugh the highest-paid coach in the Big Ten, before the school pulled it once the sign-stealing allegations rocked the school, the person said.
 
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ahh, to be so perfect as you, Patrice. Piling up those name drops. Sure you don't have to get to Air Force One to fly to the ME and negotiate a cease-fire? Or maybe get a pedicure with Tom Brady? Perhaps go parade around State College with your JoePa t-shirt? Fly to Vegas and bet with the big boys? C'mon, I'm sure there are some 60 yr old waitresses you can tip BIG!!
What name drops ?

I never dropped anyone’s name in this thread you moron !

Tom Brady Sr who you just brought up happens to be a good friend and a golfing buddy.
Why should I deny or apologize to you for my associations, you’re just a jealous fool.

As to JP, the gist of my posts dealt with the concept of “due process”, and “adequate representation”, just like it did with Duke and Michigan situations, you’re just too stupid to grasp those principles.

But I am flying to Vegas for a game and I did tip two 30 year old waitresses recently.


OUCH !
 
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This is pretty much a comment.



The University of Michigan has rescinded a new contract offer for head football coach Jim Harbaugh in the wake of a sign-stealing scandal that has rocked one of the favorites to play for college football’s national championship, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The move is the first sign that the school may be hesitant about its future relationship with the famed coach who revived its football program and is frequently cited as a candidate for jobs in the National Football League. Harbaugh’s pay had been cut during the pandemic, but he was given a new contract just last year after bringing the team back to national prominence.


The Wolverines’ title chase this year put him in line for another raise. Michigan recently had made an offer that would have made Harbaugh the highest-paid coach in the Big Ten, before the school pulled it once the sign-stealing allegations rocked the school, the person said.
I don’t know all of the facts and I doubt that anyone does as of this date, but holding off on signing any future contract is the prudent position pending the outcome of the investigation.

Let‘s see what the facts reveal before drawing any conclusions
 
This is pretty much a comment.



The University of Michigan has rescinded a new contract offer for head football coach Jim Harbaugh in the wake of a sign-stealing scandal that has rocked one of the favorites to play for college football’s national championship, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The move is the first sign that the school may be hesitant about its future relationship with the famed coach who revived its football program and is frequently cited as a candidate for jobs in the National Football League. Harbaugh’s pay had been cut during the pandemic, but he was given a new contract just last year after bringing the team back to national prominence.


The Wolverines’ title chase this year put him in line for another raise. Michigan recently had made an offer that would have made Harbaugh the highest-paid coach in the Big Ten, before the school pulled it once the sign-stealing allegations rocked the school, the person said.
be careful, Patricia will talk about liability! I mean how can Mich suspend an employee and rescind a contract offer with no due process??
 
Well Peppermint Pattie is a moron. Didn't even delve into tort. Just made a rebuttal about Michigan not commenting. But I get where you're coming from.
 
This is pretty much a comment.



The University of Michigan has rescinded a new contract offer for head football coach Jim Harbaugh in the wake of a sign-stealing scandal that has rocked one of the favorites to play for college football’s national championship, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The move is the first sign that the school may be hesitant about its future relationship with the famed coach who revived its football program and is frequently cited as a candidate for jobs in the National Football League. Harbaugh’s pay had been cut during the pandemic, but he was given a new contract just last year after bringing the team back to national prominence.


The Wolverines’ title chase this year put him in line for another raise. Michigan recently had made an offer that would have made Harbaugh the highest-paid coach in the Big Ten, before the school pulled it once the sign-stealing allegations rocked the school, the person said.
Ouch!
 
This is pretty much a comment.



The University of Michigan has rescinded a new contract offer for head football coach Jim Harbaugh in the wake of a sign-stealing scandal that has rocked one of the favorites to play for college football’s national championship, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The move is the first sign that the school may be hesitant about its future relationship with the famed coach who revived its football program and is frequently cited as a candidate for jobs in the National Football League. Harbaugh’s pay had been cut during the pandemic, but he was given a new contract just last year after bringing the team back to national prominence.


The Wolverines’ title chase this year put him in line for another raise. Michigan recently had made an offer that would have made Harbaugh the highest-paid coach in the Big Ten, before the school pulled it once the sign-stealing allegations rocked the school, the person said.

Just waiting until the NCAA clarifies that recording signs from the stands is not scouting. Contract will be offered soon.
 
What name drops ?

I never dropped anyone’s name in this thread you moron !

Tom Brady Sr who you just brought up happens to be a good friend and a golfing buddy.
Why should I deny or apologize to you for my associations, you’re just a jealous fool.

As to JP, the gist of my posts dealt with the concept of “due process”, and “adequate representation”, just like it did with Duke and Michigan situations, you’re just too stupid to grasp those principles.

But I am flying to Vegas for a game and I did tip two 30 year old waitresses recently.


OUCH !
someone is salty.

And yes, I recall the Tom Brady posts, believe you bet around $100k on it! I didn't request any validation, but love how you answer any post that allows you to name drop, but won't answer any questions requiring rational thought or critical thinking. None of us dumb posters commented on due process or adequate representation, as we opined on quite apparent irregularities around Mich coaches and their behaviors. Will type slower next time so you can keep up.

yes, know you like them youngins', they fit your maturity profile.
 
I like how news is reporting that the other schools knew it was happening. TCU coaches (under anonymity of course) said that once the playoff was announced, they received calls from the coaching fraternity around the country warning then that Michigan had one of the most sophisticated sign stealing operations in the country.
 
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