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A loss to Michigan would tell us a great deal. I haven’t seen Indiana play yet, and looking forward to the Michigan game. Michigan is clearly not a top 25 team, but they have some talent and they play hard. An Indiana victory would validate them as a legitimate contender. A loss will validate their exceptionally soft schedule thus far.
Of course a loss would.

A win at home over Michigan will not say anything about Indiana. Michigan is yesterday’s news. They are average in 2024. Average at best.
 
I think IU wins out in the regular season and loses to Oregon in the conference title game. I base that on match ups. That sets up a conundrum for the selection committee...meaning 4 BIG teams will be in the conversation: OSU, Oregon, PSU and IU. There are going to be several 2 loss teams ranked in the top 12 by this selection committee, imo. That is going to create more controversy than ever...and will force some changes after this season in selection criteria. Would an IU losing in the title game trump a 1 loss PSU? a 2 loss OSU (or a 2 loss GA or LSU) for example? Not that simple to answer.
Those are very legitimate issues. May have some of that in sec as well.
 
Of course a loss would.

A win at home over Michigan will not say anything about Indiana. Michigan is yesterday’s news. They are average in 2024. Average at best.
You’re just envious because they are sooooo much better than usc
 
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4 SEC teams
4 Big 10
1 Big 12
1 ACC
1 G 5
Notre Dame

That reasonably could happen if ND is 10-2.
If Notre Dame loses at 5 loss USC……coupled with losing at home to crappy Northern Illinois, it’s difficult to imagine Notre Dame making the playoff:
 
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Nah, bubble for sure though. Depends what others do.
The only things the teams we have left on our schedule can do is hurt ND, if you don't hand them a 20+ point loss. There is no way a 10-2 ND team is getting in......They would put 4 SEC teams in at 10-2 before they put ND.
I think it’s ill advised to speak in absolutes. It’s definitely possible. PSU might lose twice more and that would help. Just look at the top 25 and see who plays who.

I am, our remaining opponents outside of Army are all ranked outside of the top 50. Vandy, Ole Mis, Bama, LSU even with 3 losses would have better Resume's. ND is in the playoffs now, and has been since the loss to NIU. How I see it.
 
Exactly, sjb75 not too smart. I have watched numerous IU games and they look pretty damn good to me regardless of their mediocre schedule so far.

Of course a loss would.

A win at home over Michigan will not say anything about Indiana. Michigan is yesterday’s news. They are average in 2024. Average at best.
Well, you said “ Michigan at Indiana won’t tell us anything. Nothing”. We at least now agree that a loss to Michigan would be meaningful. We disagree as to the importance of a win over Michigan. Thought they played Oregon pretty tough for most of their game yesterday. Michigan is not a top 25 team, but they have some talent and play hard. I think a win by Indiana next week will tell me Indiana is legitimate.
 
The only things the teams we have left on our schedule can do is hurt ND, if you don't hand them a 20+ point loss. There is no way a 10-2 ND team is getting in......They would put 4 SEC teams in at 10-2 before they put ND.


I am, our remaining opponents outside of Army are all ranked outside of the top 50. Vandy, Ole Mis, Bama, LSU even with 3 losses would have better Resume's. ND is in the playoffs now, and has been since the loss to NIU. How I see it.
Vandy lost to Georgia State. I don’t think three loss Vandy gets in over two loss ND. LSU would also have a loss to USC at a neutral site while ND’s would be away. ND beat A&M by 10 where LSU lost by 15. I wouldn’t count on it, but I think 10-2 ND, assuming it’s to a decent UVA or USC, should get in over 10-3 LSU.

PSU could lose two more and that puts ND over them. Now that’s 3 Big 10 and 5 SEC teams.

I’d say ND has around a 40% chance of getting at 10-2.

Whatever the percentage, it’s totally possible.
 
If Notre Dame loses at 5 loss USC, coupled with the loss to crappy Northern Illinois in South Bend, IMO a playoff berth is hard to imagine.
It's IMPOSSIBLE to imagine...no team that loses to University of Southern Charmin should be in a playoff...
 
If Notre Dame loses at 5 loss USC……coupled with losing at home to crappy Northern Illinois, it’s difficult to imagine Notre Dame making the playoff:
ACC would likely get 2, SMU and Miami.....Then you have Army if they beat us and win the AA gets in being undefeated........Washington State is still in it at 7-1.....I dont see it, love to be wrong.
 
ACC would likely get 2, SMU and Miami.....Then you have Army if they beat us and win the AA gets in being undefeated........Washington State is still in it at 7-1.....I dont see it, love to be wrong.
Washington State lost by 21 to Boise State, the team to mostly likely be the G5. I highly doubt they get in at 11-1. If they do, they probably replaced Boise State.
 
Vandy lost to Georgia State. I don’t think three loss Vandy gets in over two loss ND. LSU would also have a loss to USC at a neutral site while ND’s would be away. ND beat A&M by 10 where LSU lost by 15. I wouldn’t count on it, but I think 10-2 ND, assuming it’s to a decent UVA or USC, should get in over 10-3 LSU.

PSU could lose two more and that puts ND over them. Now that’s 3 Big 10 and 5 SEC teams.

I’d say ND has around a 40% chance of getting at 10-2.

Whatever the percentage, it’s totally possible.
40%% is way too high, IMO.

The Northern Illinois loss at home is an albatross, couple that with another loss to an average to lousy team, I do not see it.

10% maybe.
 
Vandy lost to Georgia State. I don’t think three loss Vandy gets in over two loss ND. LSU would also have a loss to USC at a neutral site while ND’s would be away. ND beat A&M by 10 where LSU lost by 15. I wouldn’t count on it, but I think 10-2 ND, assuming it’s to a decent UVA or USC, should get in over 10-3 LSU.

PSU could lose two more and that puts ND over them. Now that’s 3 Big 10 and 5 SEC teams.

I’d say ND has around a 40% chance of getting at 10-2.

Whatever the percentage, it’s totally possible.
We are at 57% today to make it by the odds, coming in at number 11. Bama is 12 at 55%.....

Iowa State dropped to 20% with their first loss. I guess anything possible, lets just not find out!
 
We are at 57% today to make it by the odds, coming in at number 11. Bama is 12 at 55%.....

Iowa State dropped to 20% with their first loss. I guess anything possible, lets just not find out!
espn site says 17-22% with another loss. That’s a lot different than 0%.
 
Yep, sjb75- the dude from the land of fruits and nuts( Of course not saying there is anything wrong with that), LMFAO
Let’s not disparage folks from Calif. We’ve decided to move back to Calif from Henderson, NV…which we absolutely love. But we have one son, who is single and physically disabled with CP, and we just feel the desire to be closer to him. Unfortunately, he lives in Calif with a good job. Hate the thought of moving back to a one party State with high taxes and incredibly stupid public policy on numerous fronts…and Northern Calif at that. Maybe we are nuts!
 
IU #8 in AP poll passing BYU & ND. Hoosiers have spanked everyone they have played. If they finish 11-1 and play Ohio State tough in Columbus they are in CFP
I haven't watched any of their games, so I don't know how they're doing it. They brought in a bunch of transfers from mid-major programs, and are somehow running roughshod over the Big Ten. Cignetti's definitely a leading contender for Coach of the Year.
 
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Michigan St. and Nebraska are below average teams.

The Indiana schedule is simply soft.

They have not beaten anyone that’s any good.
And the committee will also factor in schedule strength. I read - I believe on one of the Michigan boards - that the only currently ranked team on Indiana's schedule - is OSU. They've really played a weak schedule
 
espn site says 17-22% with another loss. That’s a lot different than 0%.

Win out and in. IU is in if they lose to OSU. So is PSU. It will be Oregon, IU, OSU and PSU. SEC will have some 4. Then Miami.

Leaves 3 and one of those is going to b12 and Boise. I don’t see a 2 loss ND in under any circumstances
 
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NOTRE DAME is ALREADY in the “PLAYOFF” mode. Meaning SINGLE ELIMINATION. As long as we win we continue to move on …….. WE LOSE and we are out. We are the only team in this situation.
 
Win out and in. IU is in if they lose to OSU. So is PSU. It will be Oregon, IU, OSU and PSU. SEC will have some 4. Then Miami.

Leaves 3 and one of those is going to b12 and Boise. I don’t see a 2 loss ND in under any circumstances
You just laid out what I did in another post.

That’s 11 teams you listed, which leaves ND. You cited a playoff predictor that says ND has a 57% chance, why won’t you accept the espn playoff predictor that says 17-22% if ND is 10-2?

It’s really easy for me to look through the schedules and see a pathway to the playoffs at 10-2. I’ve even elucidated several of them.
 
NOTRE DAME is ALREADY in the “PLAYOFF” mode. Meaning SINGLE ELIMINATION. As long as we win we continue to move on …….. WE LOSE and we are out. We are the only team in this situation.
Only one in the top 10 I would say due to NIU with the exception of BYU but they can win their conference. Doesn’t that give them an automatic?
 
You just laid out what I did in another post.

That’s 11 teams you listed, which leaves ND. You cited a playoff predictor that says ND has a 57% chance, why won’t you accept the espn playoff predictor that says 17-22% if ND is 10-2?

It’s really easy for me to look through the schedules and see a pathway to the playoffs at 10-2. I’ve even elucidated several of them.
Because ND has no games remaining that raise our status. We only have games that drop us. We are on the absolute bubble with one loss. Put up another against what we got left and we drop into the 16-20 because right behind us is a boat load of XX-2 teams that are in the SEC, ACC or B10 and will not play in the championship

I DO think we host a first round game is we win out though.
 
Because ND has no games remaining that raise our status. We only have games that drop us. We are on the absolute bubble with one loss. Put up another against what we got left and we drop into the 16-20 because right behind us is a boat load of XX-2 teams that are in the SEC, ACC or B10 and will not play in the championship

I DO think we host a first round game is we win out though.
I understand ND has a weak schedule to end the season. It’s about other teams finishing with three losses. If the Big 12 and ACC each get one team, and PSU loses twice more, it would be surprising to me if ND doesn’t get in at 10-2. A computer model even says 17-22%.

We’ll see how this shakes out. I think it’s unreasonable to say that there is no way that a 10-2 ND gets in.
 
Because ND has no games remaining that raise our status. We only have games that drop us. We are on the absolute bubble with one loss. Put up another against what we got left and we drop into the 16-20 because right behind us is a boat load of XX-2 teams that are in the SEC, ACC or B10 and will not play in the championship

I DO think we host a first round game is we win out though.
How could we be both on the bubble with one loss and at the same time a lock to host a first round game?

I would say we're a lock with one loss, and very likely to host a 1st rounder. As far as 10-2 goes, it would all depend on who else loses.
 
If Notre Dame loses at 5 loss USC……coupled with losing at home to crappy Northern Illinois, it’s difficult to imagine Notre Dame making the playoff:
We all know that. Light up another one
 
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Just how good is Indiana? I think they're for real, and I think they have an excellent chance to beat OSU and win the Big 10. Thoughts?
If they don't let the crowd and the moment become too big for them, it's possible with their offense. Outscore OSU like Oregon did.
 
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And the committee will also factor in schedule strength. I read - I believe on one of the Michigan boards - that the only currently ranked team on Indiana's schedule - is OSU. They've really played a weak schedule.
The only currently ranked teams on ND's schedule are A&M and Army. And after ND bulldozed Army and A&M loses to Texas in the Lone Star Showdown, ND will have zero ranked teams on the schedule at the end of the season.

Purdue plays five of the current top ten teams - Oregon, Ohio St, Penn St, Indiana and ND. That's probably the toughest schedule in the nation.
 
How could we be both on the bubble with one loss and at the same time a lock to host a first round game?

I would say we're a lock with one loss, and very likely to host a 1st rounder. As far as 10-2 goes, it would all depend on who else loses.
Because so many teams are a lock. This isn’t a top 12 get in. The 5 highest ranked conf teams get an auto. Leaves 7 spots. Those 7 are all bubble.

We know 3 SEC and B10 are in. That takes up 4 more. B12 maybe gets 1. ND is a lock with 1 loss to get one of those 2 left. Lose another out of what’s left for us and I just don’t see us dropping only 2.

Just my opinion boys.
 
And the committee will also factor in schedule strength. I read - I believe on one of the Michigan boards - that the only currently ranked team on Indiana's schedule - is OSU. They've really played a weak schedule
Agree.
 
I don’t really care how it shakes out but it would be great for ND & IU to be in the CFB. Great story for Hoosiers and their long misery and Freeman taking ND.
 
I don’t really care how it shakes out but it would be great for ND & IU to be in the CFB. Great story for Hoosiers and their long misery and Freeman taking ND.
Well I think you're going to be happy, because that's pretty likely to happen. All IU has to do is beat Michigan and I think they're in. And beat Purdue of course. And they could lose to tOSU and still make it.
 
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Because so many teams are a lock. This isn’t a top 12 get in. The 5 highest ranked conf teams get an auto. Leaves 7 spots. Those 7 are all bubble.

We know 3 SEC and B10 are in. That takes up 4 more. B12 maybe gets 1. ND is a lock with 1 loss to get one of those 2 left. Lose another out of what’s left for us and I just don’t see us dropping only 2.

Just my opinion boys.
I think the Big Ten's going to get four teams. Unless Penn St. or tOSU lose again, and even then they still might at 10-2. I don't think IU or Oregon are going to lose twice. The SEC has many critical games and head to head matchups left to decide their fate. But you're right it will probably be three teams.
 
The only currently ranked teams on ND's schedule are A&M and Army. And after ND bulldozed Army and A&M loses to Texas in the Lone Star Showdown, ND will have zero ranked teams on the schedule at the end of the season.

Purdue plays five of the current top ten teams - Oregon, Ohio St, Penn St, Indiana and ND. That's probably the toughest schedule in the nation.
Louisville is ranked. Even if Am lost to Texas they will still be ranked. Army will be ranked if they are 12 and 1

That will be 3 ranked wins

66 to 7
 
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I think the Big Ten's going to get four teams. Unless Penn St. or tOSU lose again, and even then they still might at 10-2. I don't think IU or Oregon are going to lose twice. The SEC has many critical games and head to head matchups left to decide their fate. But you're right it will probably be three teams.
IMO Penn State has no chance at 10-2 . The schedule way too soft. If Bama finishes 10-2 I like their chances. There isn't any comparison on the schedules.
 
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