Fisher names Golson starter

[cgvr]

I think your quote above explains a lot. Remember that Jimbo is able to recruit the guys with questionable character that Brian Kelly must pass on. And I think all of us are glad of that. It's part of what makes ND football such fun.

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Will Mahone....others approve this message.....

"3 sexual assaults reported in first week of classes at Notre Dame"
"Campus police are working with county prosecutors on one of the cases but no charges have been filed. Authorities say the victims in the other two cases did not want to pursue criminal charges."

http://wgntv.com/2015/09/02/three-sexual-assaults-reported-in-first-week-of-classes-at-notre-dame/

 

[IRISHJD98]

Will Mahone approves this message.....

cgvr,

I understand the whole glass houses thing and the fact that we've recently had guys that have behaved inexcusably, leaving us on thin ice with the old "our players behave better than yours stuff".

But serious question: Were there any character concerns about Mahone when he was a recruit?

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Not sure the relevance of CGVR's link...

There weren't any character concerns with Johnson when he was a recruit

 

[john0gaunt]

It is absurd to compare getting drunk in college and arguing with the police to a 6-2 athlete cold punching a young girl in the face who won't give her phone number or is perceived to be out of line at a bar.

If you can't see that, maybe you don't see a difference. I think 30% of people think the world is flat so there are certainly people out there with questionable ideas.

Not sure how Will Mahone became part of the discussion. I have had many beers and spent many nights running from the law during my college days. They were the best of days. That doesn't mean I would ever punch a woman. There is a particular type of person willing to do that. It's not excusable.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

 

[rgc7]

Nice to hear everybody pulling for a kid that is a Notre Dame grad and that many posters here once thought was a serious Heisman candidate. It's great to feel the love for one of your own.

Due, my sentiments exactly. I wish Golson every success !

 

[echowaker]

Let's talk reality here. Fisher has never produced a qb that has been successful in the NFL. He gets ND's 2nd team qb with a ton of skill because he knew it would be a lost season with Maguire, so he promised EG a starting position. (At least he didn't lie to EG) Good for Golson, but that does not change the fact that MZ had earned the starting position at ND and EG left for greener pastures and won't have to go to class so he can concentrate of FB.

It will be fun to watch Mo1e and other FSU a-holes slobber over EG after three years of them talking about how terrible he was performing at ND.

Fisher is not a good man, a decent coach, but a bad human being who does nothing to stem the violence his players have inflicted on his community and can't even keep his wife from catting around. EG simply needs to keep his head down, remember the life lessons he learned at ND and not be colored by the sick atmosphere sponsored by FSU in Tallahassee.

nor has nd produced a nfl quality qb either in a long, long time. jimbo fisher is NOT a bad human being.

 

[cgvr]

cgvr,

It is absurd to compare getting drunk in college and arguing with the police to a 6-2 athlete cold punching a young girl in the face who won't give her phone number or is perceived to be out of line at a bar.

If you can't see that, maybe you don't see a difference. I think 30% of people think the world is flat so there are certainly people out there with questionable ideas.

Not sure how Will Mahone became part of the discussion. I have had many beers and spent many nights running from the law during my college days. They were the best of days. That doesn't mean I would ever punch a woman. There is a particular type of person willing to do that. It's not excusable.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

Your account is not very accurate....
Notre Dame WR Will Mahone arrested on five charges

June 15, 2014, 10:30 pm
Mahone, a junior who converted from running back to slot receiver in the spring, was booked at the Mahoning County Justice Center for disorderly conduct, assault on a police officer, resisting arrest, intimidation of a public servant and vandalism of a government entity.
Three of the charges are felonies: Assault on a police officer, a first degree felony; intimidation of a public servant, a third degree felony; and vandalism of a government entity, a fifth degree felony. Mahone's hometown of Austintown is located in Mahoning County and is a suburb of Youngstown, where Mahone was booked.

 

[cgvr]

cgvr,

I understand the whole glass houses thing and the fact that we've recently had guys that have behaved inexcusably, leaving us on thin ice with the old "our players behave better than yours stuff".

But serious question: Were there any character concerns about Mahone when he was a recruit?

Don't know...., but do know we have a history of letting guys in that have issues....

 

[ForeverNole22]

I think your quote above explains a lot. Remember that Jimbo is able to recruit the guys with questionable character that Brian Kelly must pass on. And I think all of us are glad of that. It's part of what makes ND football such fun.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

Take a quick look at his offer list.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-De'Andre-Johnson-129319

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Hey man you can't use facts to argue here.

 

[john0gaunt]

Take a quick look at his offer list.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-De'Andre-Johnson-129319

No doubt an impressive offer list. He obviously is a talented athlete but it doesn't change my point. If it were my team I would endeavor to keep thugs off it.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

 

[SALittleGiant513]

He definitely got an offer from ND. Regardless there was no concern that was public that Johnson was a thug until he got in the altercation where he hit the girl. Same as there was no indication that Mahone was a thug until he got drunk kicked up the window on a cop car and got in a fight with the officers arresting him. Some of those dudes seem like ok guys but just do stupid shit and never grow up, no way of knowing that will happen until it does in those cases.

 

[ForeverNole22]

No doubt an impressive offer list. No interest from ND nor do I see Stanford on the list. He obviously is a talented athlete but it doesn't change my point. If it were my team I would endeavor to keep thugs off it.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

Umm, the interest level thing on there isn't the school's interest in him. It is his interest in the school.

 

[IRISHJD98]

He definitely got an offer from ND. Regardless there was no concern that was public that Johnson was a thug until he got in the altercation where he hit the girl. Same as there was no indication that Mahone was a thug until he got drunk kicked up the window on a cop car and got in a fight with the officers arresting him. Some of those dudes seem like ok guys but just do stupid shit and never grow up, no way of knowing that will happen until it does in those cases.

The important thing is how the schools respond. In these cases, it looks like they took appropriate action.

 

[no1e]

No doubt an impressive offer list. He obviously is a talented athlete but it doesn't change my point. If it were my team I would endeavor to keep thugs off it.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

Cool ... except Johnson was anything but a thug. Never in trouble, good student (early enrollment), great athlete, team player, strong leadership skills, well liked and respected by his peers, teachers and coaches. Made a poor decision in the heat of the moment and has shown remorse for his actions and accepted full responsibility for his behaviour.

I wouldn't describe him as a thug. More like a good kid who made a huge mistake and is paying a huge price as a result. He apparently is learning from his error. A thug doesn't.

 

[john0gaunt]

Cool ... except Johnson was anything but a thug. Never in trouble, good student

Yeah, so beating down a defenseless girl is not thug behavior. I agree it's something different. It doesn't mean he isn't a thug though. I would prefer to keep thugs like this off my team.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

 

[no1e]

Yeah, so beating down a defenseless girl is not thug behavior. I agree it's something different. It doesn't mean he isn't a thug though. I would prefer to keep thugs like this off my team.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

That's why you are an anonymous internet poster and not a college coach. You know ND along with 50 other programs including practically every premier program in the country recruited Johnson because he was a trouble free student athlete up to the point of his misdemeanor assault on the girl. He wasn't a thug and be assured YOU would have been first in line to offer him just like Kelly was based on his life up to that point.

When sadly he crossed the line exhibiting behavior that was way out of character for him FSU dismissed him immediately after the video was made available. Many schools wouldn't have done that for a misdemeanor mistake.

 

[john0gaunt]

I definitely don't know the young man as well as you.

Frankly, that's by design.

 

[ForeverNole22]

Yeah, so beating down a defenseless girl is not thug behavior. I agree it's something different. It doesn't mean he isn't a thug though. I would prefer to keep thugs like this off my team.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

Haha all this amounts to is cool story bro.

Save the sanctimonious BS for somewhere else.

 

[Bodizephax]

Golson was a very electric exciting player for Notre Dame. He gave his all !! Good luck to him at Florida State!

 

[Bodizephax]

You guys should just put Argus on ignore and halt this endless parade.

Remember what Friedrich Nietzche said;

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you".

 

[Epictitus]

The difference here is obvious. Sure, ND and FSU recruit some of the same players, but ND does not recruit them if they are known thugs and FSU doesn't really care. A great example is still Randy Moss were ND could not get him admittance, but that didn't stop FSU. The fact that Moss went on to further harm FSU repuation makes no matter because FSU fans don't really care about their reputation and will ignore the facts of te dirt all over their program.

The difference between Mahone and Johnson is that Mahone was removed from the program because he did bad things and at Notre Dame those things don't have to be on video tape. Had the Johnson altercation not been on tape he would still be in school just like Dalvin Cook is on the team after punching a girl or if they were able to destroy the tape like they did in the Winston rape case he would never be kicked off the team because that is how FSU operates.

There is no school that has the ability to shield thuggish behavior and gets the help of the administration and local police like FSU does. That much is clear.

 

[FSUTribe76]

Yeah, so beating down a defenseless girl is not thug behavior. I agree it's something different. It doesn't mean he isn't a thug though. I would prefer to keep thugs like this off my team.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

Lol "beating down a defenseless woman", you have a great grasp of reality. Let's see, first it was one quick jab not exactly a "beat down" and secondly she raised her hands while drunkenly talking trash, threw the first punch AND admitted in the police report she kneed him in the balls first before the punch (TMZs edited version usually leaves out her punch and edits the video so you don't see below the waist, but there's a full length unedited video where you clearly see her punch and knee to the balls).

 

[SALittleGiant513]

The difference here is obvious. Sure, ND and FSU recruit some of the same players, but ND does not recruit them if they are known thugs and FSU doesn't really care. A great example is still Randy Moss were ND could not get him admittance, but that didn't stop FSU. The fact that Moss went on to further harm FSU repuation makes no matter because FSU fans don't really care about their reputation and will ignore the facts of te dirt all over their program.

The difference between Mahone and Johnson is that Mahone was removed from the program because he did bad things and at Notre Dame those things don't have to be on video tape. Had the Johnson altercation not been on tape he would still be in school just like Dalvin Cook is on the team after punching a girl or if they were able to destroy the tape like they did in the Winston rape case he would never be kicked off the team because that is how FSU operates.

There is no school that has the ability to shield thuggish behavior and gets the help of the administration and local police like FSU does. That much is clear.

Most obvious problems with your rant...

1. No proof Cook did anything to that girl. That case fell apart so bad.

2. Johnson was kicked off the minute the video came our but was suspended pending the investigation that led to the video. With mahone no need for a video the shattered glass was good.

 

[no1e]

The difference here is obvious. Sure, ND and FSU recruit some of the same players, but ND does not recruit them if they are known thugs and FSU doesn't really care. A great example is still Randy Moss were ND could not get him admittance, but that didn't stop FSU. The fact that Moss went on to further harm FSU repuation makes no matter because FSU fans don't really care about their reputation and will ignore the facts of te dirt all over their program.

The difference between Mahone and Johnson is that Mahone was removed from the program because he did bad things and at Notre Dame those things don't have to be on video tape. Had the Johnson altercation not been on tape he would still be in school just like Dalvin Cook is on the team after punching a girl or if they were able to destroy the tape like they did in the Winston rape case he would never be kicked off the team because that is how FSU operates.

There is no school that has the ability to shield thuggish behavior and gets the help of the administration and local police like FSU does. That much is clear.

Most obvious problems with your rant...

1. No proof Cook did anything to that girl. That case apart so bad.

2. Johnson was kicked off the minute the video came our but was suspended pending the investigation that led to the video. With mahone no need for a video the shattered glass was good.

You're such an uninformed idiot.

The difference here is obvious. Sure, ND and FSU recruit some of the same players, but ND does not recruit them if they are known thugs and FSU doesn't really care. A great example is still Randy Moss were ND could not get him admittance, but that didn't stop FSU. The fact that Moss went on to further harm FSU repuation makes no matter because FSU fans don't really care about their reputation and will ignore the facts of te dirt all over their program.

The difference between Mahone and Johnson is that Mahone was removed from the program because he did bad things and at Notre Dame those things don't have to be on video tape. Had the Johnson altercation not been on tape he would still be in school just like Dalvin Cook is on the team after punching a girl or if they were able to destroy the tape like they did in the Winston rape case he would never be kicked off the team because that is how FSU operates.

There is no school that has the ability to shield thuggish behavior and gets the help of the administration and local police like FSU does. That much is clear.

Don't know where to start as there is so much wrong with your uninformed post. So I won't comment other than to say you're a wacko who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. Seek help.

 

[ForeverNole22]

You guys should just put Argus on ignore and halt this endless parade.

Remember what Friedrich Nietzche said;

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you".

No can do. But I don't fight with him. I rarely even respond to him, but when I do it's usually just a meme about some type of mental illness. I enjoy reading his posts. I've never come across anyone so insane in my life. He is the train wreck I can't stop looking at.

 

[cgvr]

You're such an uninformed idiot.

Don't know where to start as there is so much wrong with your uninformed post. So I won't comment other than to say you're a wacko who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. Seek help.

This is no way to treat a former football head coach, former football player, friend of Holtz and someone who was "hopnored" during an ND football game.

I am appalled by your behavior.

 

[no1e]

This is no way to treat a former football head coach, former football player, friend of Holtz and someone who was "hopnored" during an ND football game.

I am appalled by your behavior.

More importantly .... it's no way to treat the mentally ill. I should apologize.

 

[echowaker]

The difference here is obvious. Sure, ND and FSU recruit some of the same players, but ND does not recruit them if they are known thugs and FSU doesn't really care. A great example is still Randy Moss were ND could not get him admittance, but that didn't stop FSU. The fact that Moss went on to further harm FSU repuation makes no matter because FSU fans don't really care about their reputation and will ignore the facts of te dirt all over their program.

The difference between Mahone and Johnson is that Mahone was removed from the program because he did bad things and at Notre Dame those things don't have to be on video tape. Had the Johnson altercation not been on tape he would still be in school just like Dalvin Cook is on the team after punching a girl or if they were able to destroy the tape like they did in the Winston rape case he would never be kicked off the team because that is how FSU operates.

There is no school that has the ability to shield thuggish behavior and gets the help of the administration and local police like FSU does. That much is clear.

moss was turned down by admissions. nothing to do with character. holtz pleaded and pleaded to get him admitted and when he couldn't he recommended that moss go see his GOOD friend bobby Bowden.

 

[john0gaunt]

There were some other guys that used some offensive language directed at RM while he was still in HS. He picked the kid up and deposited him into a trash can, head first. The police showed up and arrested RM. RM went to court dressed in his ND gear. He planned on attending ND, might of thought it would reflect well in court. poor kid. During all this, he did not get all of his documentation turned into admissions on time. Admissions rejected him.

I'm glad to see him do so well both in school and after. fsu was a perfect place for him to go. Lou didn't need to recommend RM any more than BK would need to recommend his former QB. Everyone knew who Randy Moss was back then.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

 

[echowaker]

There were some other guys that used some offensive language directed at RM while he was still in HS. He picked the kid up and deposited him into a trash can, head first. The police showed up and arrested RM. RM went to court dressed in his ND gear. He planned on attending ND, might of thought it would reflect well in court. poor kid. During all this, he did not get all of his documentation turned into admissions on time. Admissions rejected him.

I'm glad to see him do so well both in school and after. fsu was a perfect place for him to go. Lou didn't need to recommend RM any more than BK would need to recommend his former QB. Everyone knew who Randy Moss was back then.

Go Irish!
Beat Texas!

doesn't change the fact that lou holtz was involved in moss's decision to attend fsu.

 

[BigFellaFan]

Echo,

Are you serious? The only reason Moss wasn't at ND was because of character. He was a tremendous HS athlete with good grades who wanted to go to ND, but he is and was a bum, still is.

He was convicted of a crime, lost all hope of going to ND or any decent school where character is valued so he wound up at FSU, a haven for the deceny challenged and yes, Lou helped him get in. Lou was wrong and Moss showed his ass again! Hell, he got thrown out of a school where rapists are protected, what a bum!

Be serious here as everything I said is true and beyond repute!

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Beyond Repute bitches

 

[cgvr]

Beyond Repute bitches

"True and beyond repute....." it is a very powerful statement.
PS did you drop a microphone after you typed your response?

 

[no1e]

Echo,

Are you serious? The only reason Moss wasn't at ND was because of character. He was a tremendous HS athlete with good grades who wanted to go to ND, but he is and was a bum, still is.

He was convicted of a crime, lost all hope of going to ND or any decent school where character is valued so he wound up at FSU, a haven for the deceny challenged and yes, Lou helped him get in. Lou was wrong and Moss showed his ass again! Hell, he got thrown out of a school where rapists are protected, what a bum!

Be serious here as everything I said is true and beyond repute!

..... are you serious?

Beyond repute? Too funny. I can't stop laughing.

You are one crazy guy.

 

[john0gaunt]

doesn't change the fact that lou holtz was involved in moss's decision to attend fsu.

You honestly don't think Bowden knew who RM was? I knew who he was.