Fisher names Golson starter

[perseverare]

I am elated that Golson chose FSU just like I thought Russell Wilson made a great choice in going to Wisconsin.
Not sure in both cases that both players weren't encouraged to transfer so the younger QB could grow with the team. Zaire at Notre Dame and Mike Glennon at NC ST.

Perfect situation for Golson with FSU's young and inexperienced OL that will be aided tremendously by Golson's mobility. Golson is quite similar athletically to Charlie Ward and in many ways also resembles Wilson. Everett will be the perfect bridge for FSU in 2015. He made a great move for a possible NFL career transferring to FSU and getting mentored by another great coach in Fisher after being with Kelly who likewise is a great coach.

Fisher's last 3 FSU QB's all ended up being 1st round draft choices. Here is hoping Everett is number 4.
Thank You Notre Dame. Now go beat Texas!

you will find that EG is about EG. The main difference between Wilson and EG lies in 1. the cranium and two in the chest cavity area.

and if EG is considered your 'leader' then you are indeed in search of leadership.

 

[perseverare]

you will find that EG is about EG. The main difference between Wilson and EG lies in 1. the cranium and two in the chest cavity area.

and if EG is considered your 'leader' then you are indeed in search of leadership.

(caveat: I admit to having never been a fan of EG)

 

[no1e]

(caveat: I admit to having never been a fan of EG)

I was always a fan of Golson especially after studying his HS tapes. Predicted he he would be ND's starter when he sat the bench his freshman year. That wavered somewhat when he was dismissed for cheating (have a real problem with dishonesty) but reemerged when he put that behind him, learned from his error and returned to ND to try and lead ND back to the promise land (when he could have easily moved and started at another prestigious program), elevated himself to the Heisman conversation and graduated from ND. Was impressed with his effort at FSU last year.

Hope, like Russell Wilson, he has a successful year.

 

[WAR PAINT]

you will find that EG is about EG. The main difference between Wilson and EG lies in 1. the cranium and two in the chest cavity area.

and if EG is considered your 'leader' then you are indeed in search of leadership.

Are you Everett"s Neurologist and Cardiologist? Impressive! How much does Everett pay you for your diagnosis?

Or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn?

 

[NDSMC78]

I will be rooting for FSU to lose every game Golson starts. I cant stand FSU.
Golson quit on ND and quit on his teammates. That's the facts.

Yet another screen name used by this demented individual. Go get the professional help you need.

 

[cgvr]

(caveat: I admit to having never been a fan of EG)

So, Golson helps demolish Navy 50-10 in his first start in Ireland with Rees suspended. He then runs the table taking a pre season #24 ranked team to #1 and you were never a fan of his. That's a very odd posture.

 

[perseverare]

Are you Everett"s Neurologist and Cardiologist? Impressive! How much does Everett pay you for your diagnosis?

Or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn?

yes, we had sessions scheduled each Sat from Sept to end of Nov. Oddly he was the recipient of the compensatory considerations; but he often failed to show up for his sessions. One year he was unable to attend but offered to send someone else to complete his obligation for him.

 

[cgvr]

Ok I'm not going to get into a debating match with anyone here. Yes, you are correct about Golson being the starter. I need to clarify what I was saying. Basically he was going share playing time with Zaire this year. I believe that did not sit well with him. That is my main point. I personally have nothing against him and I do wish him well. He did graduate. Kelly stuck with him all year when other coaches would have sat him sooner. Again just my opinion. This team has the potential to go far this year. Having a talented and expierence do QB would have even made that more so. It is easy it is. Good luck to him.

It's unfortunate that he left. That's a lot of experience out the door. I am ticked that we lost all the practice reps this spring. The whole situation sucked, but imo he's doing what he feels puts him in the best position to get to the NFL. He graduated and earned that freedom..... PS I wish kelly had gone to the bench sooner with Zaire. Also, I was of the position that the job was Zaire's to lose after his southern cal and lsu performances. As a result, seeing Golson start the blue gold game really confused me. We have an excellent QB at the helm. He's a house when he takes off. We need to keep him on his feet. Unfortunately, we're a sprain away from problems.....Golson leaving exacerbated that....
...

 

[Duo]

I will be rooting for FSU to lose every game Golson starts. I cant stand FSU.
Golson quit on ND and quit on his teammates. That's the facts.

As the young Notre Dame graduate moves on to greener pastures to improve his stock-in-trade by spending a year with the college coach that has sent his last 3 QB's to the professional league it is refreshing to hear the adulation of Notre Dame fans cheering their fellow alumnus on to success and team victory.

Ahhh, the spirit and tradition of college football lives on.

And as the Notre Dame motto says: vita dulcedo spes............the sweetness of life and hope

 

[Toby Smart]

I am interested to see if EG will do the one handed ball carrying technique that he made so famous in South Bend. Every single contributor on this board had major issues with the turnovers he generated, much were of his own doing. BK's post games expressed his frustration. Now that his future football career is on the line, will he now be coachable? Jimbo is not telling the truth about his leash comment. If EG does in fact lay the ball down multiple times thru his own stubbornness, then a switch will be made. With all this aside, I firmly believe if it were not for the injuries and suspensions on defense, the turnovers could have been overcome. And, lest we forget, it was not EG who laid the ball down in a crucial, critical, important part of the game that led to losses against N'western and Louisville. Good luck to EG, but he is a memory. Time to move on. It's MZ time!

 

[perseverare]

^ Well, as noted I was not a fan of him, only to the extent he was the ND QB. I think my opinions and concerns were borne out.

He is now a Nole. A fitting place and role for him.

 

[cgvr]

^ Well, as noted I was not a fan of him, only to the extent he was the ND QB. I think my opinions and concerns were borne out.

He is now a Nole. A fitting place and role for him.

What was he doing early in the '12 season to not make you a fan?

 

[no1e]

^ Well, as noted I was not a fan of him, only to the extent he was the ND QB. I think my opinions and concerns were borne out.

He is now a Nole. A fitting place and role for him.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[BGI User 348]

Yep......one more reason I LOVE MALIK!!!!!!!

BEAT texas!!!

 

[Irish Grandeur]

Everything worked out for the best for both schools. MZ earned the starting spot at ND and EG did at FSU - all the best to both players!

 

[Duo]

you will find that EG is about EG. The main difference between Wilson and EG lies in 1. the cranium and two in the chest cavity area.

and if EG is considered your 'leader' then you are indeed in search of leadership.

Anybody can see why you dislike EG. After all..........all he did was lead the team to an undefeated season and take them to the NC while being hailed as a prominent Heisman candidate. And then he was beaten by some 2nd rate coach that lost to that no count Urban Meyer the next year. Might as well run him out of town on a rail and bad mouth him on the internet!

 

[WAR PAINT]

Everything worked out for the best for both schools. MZ earned the starting spot at ND and EG did at FSU - all the best to both players!

agree I believe Zaire will prosper at ND and Golson will at FSU. Wouldn't it be something if both ND and FSU unbelievably made the playoffs and faced each other? Now that would be special! Doubt the SEC and other P-5 conferences left out would be happy! lol

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Duo with some revisionist history there...

1) Teo and the Defense drug the 2012 team to the undefeated season. Golson was above average but not a leader nor was he a game changer that year.

2) You are ignoring the fact that he cheated and got himself suspended for a year.

3) Golson was never hailed as a prominent Heisman candidate with the exception of a 2-3 week period last year before he ran off a streak of 15+ turnovers in 5 games.

4) No one ran that dude out of town he chose to leave.

 

[cgvr]

As the young Notre Dame graduate moves on to greener pastures to improve his stock-in-trade by spending a year with the college coach that has sent his last 3 QB's to the professional league it is refreshing to hear the adulation of Notre Dame fans cheering their fellow alumnus on to success and team victory.

Ahhh, the spirit and tradition of college football lives on.

And as the Notre Dame motto says: vita dulcedo spes............the sweetness of life and hope

"fellow alumnus"? We have the greatest fan base in football. Our "sub alums" are for the most part terrific.

Your broad brush statement is very inaccurate as 100% of my fellow alum friends wish him well...

 

[cgvr]

Anybody can see why you dislike EG. After all..........all he did was lead the team to an undefeated season and take them to the NC while being hailed as a prominent Heisman candidate. And then he was beaten by some 2nd rate coach that lost to that no count Urban Meyer the next year. Might as well run him out of town on a rail and bad mouth him on the internet!

His departure came as a surprise. No one ran him out of town. It's unfortunate that certain folks are belittling him...

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Who is belittling him?

 

[stu4don]

Golson is a gamer (see Stanford, Fla St., etc) who led us to the Natty as a Frosh and who was asked to do too much with last year's depleted and young team. I hated to see him go, and wish him the best. By the way, we wouldn't have beat LSU without his passing on that last drive.

Predictions: 1. Fuller's numbers will decrease this year without EG hitting on those mid range routes. 2. Golson will light it up this weekend vs. a weak opponent. (If Fla St. ever plays a team with pressure we will see what he has learned under the Great Enabler.)

 

[no1e]

Duo with some revisionist history there...

1) Teo and the Defense drug the 2012 team to the undefeated season. Golson was above average but not a leader nor was he a game changer that year.

2) You are ignoring the fact that he cheated and got himself suspended for a year.

3) Golson was never hailed as a prominent Heisman candidate with the exception of a 2-3 week period last year before he ran off a streak of 15+ turnovers in 5 games.

4) No one ran that dude out of town he chose to leave.

100 percent accurate....... all four points.

He still has skills and Nole Nation (for the most part) is hoping that a fresh start, change in venue and a new QB mentor will lead Golson to correct some sloppiness and reach his potential. If not then so be it. The upside is positive. Worth the gamble. It should be an interesting season for many teams including both FSU and ND.

 

[perseverare]

When the going gets tough, EG will be at his best, doing what is best : for EG.
That team will have talent but they better have leadership too!
And yes, FSU does and will run it up on lesser opponents; the Coaches, players, and everyone reflect the philosophy/message that has been sent down from the top.

 

[WAR PAINT]

When the going gets tough, EG will be at his best, doing what is best to secure victories.
That team will have talent and Golson will provide leadership!
And yes FSU will win some games this year that they would have lost without Golson ; the Coaches, players, and everyone reflect that philosophy/message that has been sent down from the top.

FIFY to reflect my more objective opinion.

 

[Granite45]

As the young Notre Dame graduate moves on to greener pastures to improve his stock-in-trade by spending a year with the college coach that has sent his last 3 QB's to the professional league

Not convinced this means much. Both Ponder and Manuel lost starting jobs to less experienced QBs. Not sure any FSU QB has shown many skills directly connected to Fisher.

 

[no1e]

Not convinced this means much. Both Ponder and Manuel lost starting jobs to less experienced QBs. Not sure any FSU QB has shown many skills directly connected to Fisher.

Lol

 

[bizzybecknd]

Agreed on FSU QB's, ND gets no cred for Quinn and Clausen. EJ and Ponder have done less.

 

[Irish Grandeur]

I view EG earning the starting role at FSU as a big plus for ND. It shows the depth and talent that ND has at QB that the top two QBs on the roster can start at two of the most elite college football programs in the country. This should send a nice message to HS QBs across the land that ND is a great place to develop into elite talent.

 

[cgvr]

Gunner

I view EG earning the starting role at FSU as a big plus for ND. It shows the depth and talent that ND has at QB that the top two QBs on the roster can start at two of the most elite college football programs in the country. This should send a nice message to HS QBs across the land that ND is a great place to develop into elite talent.

Gunner Kiel approves this message......

 

[WAR PAINT]

Agreed on FSU QB's, ND gets no cred for Quinn and Clausen. EJ and Ponder have done less.

Were either first round draft picks?

 

[bizzybecknd]

Were either first round draft picks?

Brady Quinn was taken in the 1st round, 23rd overall
Jimmy Clausen in the 2nd round 48th pick overall

 

[ForeverNole22]

The one and only time in NFL draft history that three consecutive starting QBs from one school were taken in the first round.

And not going to judge EJ off something like 14 starts and multiple injuries. Not many QBs have ever done much in just 14 starts. He'll get a shot at some point this season and we'll see what he does with it.

 

[Duo]

I view EG earning the starting role at FSU as a big plus for ND. It shows the depth and talent that ND has at QB that the top two QBs on the roster can start at two of the most elite college football programs in the country. This should send a nice message to HS QBs across the land that ND is a great place to develop into elite talent.

Now that makes good sense. Well put.

 

[bizzybecknd]

Who cares, Rick Mirer was the 2nd overall pick in 1993 and we all know how he panned out and arguably the greatest ever being a 6th round pick. Everybody but Buffalo knew EJ was a second day talent.

 

[IrishBlessings]

EG quit on ND. He quit on his teammates. ND has what seems a loaded team heading into this season and EG was afraid to "compete" for the starting QB position w/ MZ. EG thinks he is going to greener pastures - we will see. I have never been a fan of FSU - I always hope they lose every game regardless of EG being there or not. But, w/ EG not being man enough to stay loyal to ND when ND stood loyal to him when he got booted for a year - I just have a hard time rooting for a Benedict Arnold type who has no back bone to stay and compete for the starting job and be loyal to the college he went to and graduated from. Pretty simple IMO. If others disagree then that's fine too. Last time I checked football was a team sport - their is No I in Team. For those that keep saying he did this to better himself for the NFL, etc. Hogwash. He would of made himself very desirable to the NFL if he had stayed at ND , competed to be the starting QB and lead ND to a great season - now that would have given him a great look by NFL GM's IMO.

 

[ForeverNole22]

Who cares, Rick Mirer was the 2nd overall pick in 1993 and we all know how he panned out and arguably the greatest ever being a 6th round pick. Everybody but Buffalo knew EJ was a second day talent.

It's not Jimbo's job to hold their hand once they leave FSU. He got them drafted in the first round and got them paid millions of dollars. So those guys probably care quite a bit. I was surprised with how high EJ went, but experts, something you and I are not, chose to pick him that high.

No other coach in CFB history has done what he has with QB's and the draft, which is why he continues to absolutely dominate QB recruiting. Recruits seem to care as well.

It's more of a longshot for Golson, but if he can learn and dominate Fisher's offense, he has a chance to be drafted as well.

 

[no1e]

Agreed on FSU QB's, ND gets no cred for Quinn and Clausen. EJ and Ponder have done less.

Done less? Where? You might want to do some research and retract your comment.

For example and this is just a snapshot of key NFL stats:

Quinn - 8 years Clausen - 4 years Ponder - 4 years Manuel - 2 years
Games 24 17 38 15
Comp % 53.8 52.7 59.8 58.6
Pass yards 3043 1781 6658 2810
Ave/pass 5.5 5.1 6.3 6.43
TD 12 5 38 16
INT 17 10 36 12
Rating ave 64.4 60.2 75.9 78.5

 

[no1e]

It's not Jimbo's job to hold their hand once they leave FSU. He got them drafted in the first round and got them paid millions of dollars. So those guys probably care quite a bit. I was surprised with how high EJ went, but experts, something you and I are not, chose to pick him that high.

No other coach in CFB history has done what he has with QB's and the draft, which is why he continues to absolutely dominate QB recruiting. Recruits seem to care as well.

It's more of a longshot for Golson, but if he can learn and dominate Fisher's offense, he has a chance to be drafted as well.

What gets lost in all this are all the other QB's Jimbo has mentored and coached who have been drafted:

Nine in total including four first rounders and two #1's.

Here is a look at where quarterbacks Fisher coached were drafted:

at LSU

• Josh Booty, sixth round, 2001
  
  
• Rohan Davey, fourth round, 2002
  
  
• Craig Nall, fifth round, 2002
  
  
• Matt Mauck, seventh round, 2004
  
  
• JaMarcus Russell, first overall, 2007
  
  
• Matt Flynn, seventh round, 2008
  

at Florida State

• Christian Ponder, first round, 2011
  
  
• EJ Manuel, first round, 2013
• 
  
• Jameis Winston, first overall 2014

Name another coach today who can come remotely close to that level of college success.

 

[Irish Grandeur]

EG quit on ND. He quit on his teammates. ND has what seems a loaded team heading into this season and EG was afraid to "compete" for the starting QB position w/ MZ. EG thinks he is going to greener pastures - we will see. I have never been a fan of FSU - I always hope they lose every game regardless of EG being there or not. But, w/ EG not being man enough to stay loyal to ND when ND stood loyal to him when he got booted for a year - I just have a hard time rooting for a Benedict Arnold type who has no back bone to stay and compete for the starting job and be loyal to the college he went to and graduated from. Pretty simple IMO. If others disagree then that's fine too. Last time I checked football was a team sport - their is No I in Team. For those that keep saying he did this to better himself for the NFL, etc. Hogwash. He would of made himself very desirable to the NFL if he had stayed at ND , competed to be the starting QB and lead ND to a great season - now that would have given him a great look by NFL GM's IMO.

IB, no need to hold EG to a standard you have created in your mind. Personally, I think the ND team this year will perform better without EG on the roster. Honestly, I wish him well and like our chances in every single game this year without him running the offense.