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Agreed, I sad that after the Ville game.Play Angeli in the final 3 games, kid deserves his shot
IDK if anyone “deserves” anything. Play the guy with the highest ceiling. We don’t need Jack Coan 2.0.Play Angeli in the final 3 games, kid deserves his shot
That would be Carr in 24.IDK if anyone “deserves” anything. Play the guy with the highest ceiling. We don’t need Jack Coan 2.0.
Hard to say. Minchey is good. He was 4th at Elite 11 and according to all media has the best arm on the roster. I’m not sure I’d say Carr is definitely higher ceiling, but I’d lean that be perhaps does. I do think both Minchey and Carr have more first round draft potential than Angeli. Angeli is not a future first round pick potential guy according to anyone. He’s your prototypical ND kid. Mid talent with solid leadership. Can’t make every throw but can win you 9 games.That would be Carr in 24.
Agree we need to know what we have at QB for next year. Sitting Sam abruptly will be a bad look for any future portal QB opportunities. I think the perfect scenario is starting Sam against Wake; open up the passing game and get out to a big lead, then sit Sam and play the better of Angeli and Minchey in relief; and have Sam embrace sitting out the last game and any bowl game.Hard to say. Minchey is good. He was 4th at Elite 11 and according to all media has the best arm on the roster. I’m not sure I’d say Carr is definitely higher ceiling, but I’d lean that be perhaps does. I do think both Minchey and Carr have more first round draft potential than Angeli. Angeli is not a future first round pick potential guy according to anyone. He’s your prototypical ND kid. Mid talent with solid leadership. Can’t make every throw but can win you 9 games.
Totally agree. Best course of actionAgree we need to know what we have at QB for next year. Sitting Sam abruptly will be a bad look for any future portal QB opportunities. I think the perfect scenario is starting Sam against Wake; open up the passing game and get out to a big lead, then sit Sam and play the better of Angeli and Minchey in relief; and have Sam embrace sitting out the last game and any bowl game.
As for Minchey vs Angeli, neither has seen any meaningful game time, so impossible for me to have an opinion as to which is better with the higher ceiling.
Play Angeli and Minchey. Not just AngeliPlay Angeli in the final 3 games, kid deserves his shot
Then replace every senior on offense and defense for a younger player.Play Angeli and Minchey. Not just Angeli
Why would it necessarily look bad for any future portal qb[I hope we don't need anymore]? If they have confidence and FIT THE ND system then They would have no problem coming. Hartman was in WF system and it was way different than what ND demands. Plus Parker's schemes were deplorable for the toughest teams on schedule. He had zero adjustments or answers!! That somewhat affected Hartman. But Hartman has made some really bad passes too.Agree we need to know what we have at QB for next year. Sitting Sam abruptly will be a bad look for any future portal QB opportunities. I think the perfect scenario is starting Sam against Wake; open up the passing game and get out to a big lead, then sit Sam and play the better of Angeli and Minchey in relief; and have Sam embrace sitting out the last game and any bowl game.
As for Minchey vs Angeli, neither has seen any meaningful game time, so impossible for me to have an opinion as to which is better with the higher ceiling.
No. We don't have 1 other player on offense who is out of eligibility. And on defense we only have 3. Im okay with them playing someone over BrownThen replace every senior on offense and defense for a younger player.
For you to continually point at Sam Hartman as the scapegoat is disingenuous.
Against WF and Stanford, you play the players that allows the team the best chance to win. Period.No. We don't have 1 other player on offense who is out of eligibility. And on defense we only have 3. Im okay with them playing someone over Brown
I would build the team for the future and still win. Hartman will not be here next year. Hes not a Notre Dame kid. He's a transfer. We don't have an allegiance to him. Play the young guys and evaluate them if they can be the guys for next year.Against WF and Stanford, you play the players that allows the team the best chance to win. Period.
If Steve Angeli and Kenny Minchey were those guys, they would have played meaningful snaps far earlier. They weren't good enough.
Bullshit. Play the players that allows the team the best chance to win games now.I would build the team for the future and still win. Hartman will not be here next year. Hes not a Notre Dame kid. He's a transfer. We don't have an allegiance to him. Play the young guys and evaluate them if they can be the guys for next year.
Joe Alt will not be at Notre Dame season. While we are at it, let's sit Joe Alt as well.I would build the team for the future and still win. Hartman will not be here next year. Hes not a Notre Dame kid. He's a transfer. We don't have an allegiance to him. Play the young guys and evaluate them if they can be the guys for next year.
He's only a junior and he's a ND kid. Not a transfer. Why would we do thatJoe Alt will not be at Notre Dame season. While we are at it, let's sit Joe Alt as well.
Javontae Jean-Baptiste will be gone.He's only a junior and he's a ND kid. Not a transfer. Why would we do that
Marist Liufau, JD Bertrand, Jack Kiser, Howard Cross, Rylie Mills.He's only a junior and he's a ND kid. Not a transfer. Why would we do that
Why?Javontae Jean-Baptiste will be gone.
Sit him down.
They all have eligibility and can come backMarist Liufau, JD Bertrand, Jack Kiser, Howard Cross, Rylie Mills.
Sit them down.
But by God, sit Sam Hartman.Play Angeli and Minchey. Not just Angeli
He won't be here next year. He's a transfer. He's not playing wellBut by God, sit Sam Hartman.
The offense is a bad look. What's the difference?Agree we need to know what we have at QB for next year. Sitting Sam abruptly will be a bad look for any future portal QB opportunities. I think the perfect scenario is starting Sam against Wake; open up the passing game and get out to a big lead, then sit Sam and play the better of Angeli and Minchey in relief; and have Sam embrace sitting out the last game and any bowl game.
As for Minchey vs Angeli, neither has seen any meaningful game time, so impossible for me to have an opinion as to which is better with the higher ceiling.
LOL, Im definitely in the sit Kiser down. He stinksMarist Liufau, JD Bertrand, Jack Kiser, Howard Cross, Rylie Mills.
Sit them down.
Let's also sit your "elite" RB, Audric Estime, who will be in the NFL next season.He won't be here next year. He's a transfer. He's not playing well
So yeah sit him
We do. They play a lot. Estime doesn't get all the reps.Let's also sit your "elite" RB, Audric Estime, who will be in the NFL next season.
No carries, let's evaluate the RB room.
Sit the coaching staff too!But by God, sit Sam Hartman.
Why?Let's definitely sit Joe Alt. He's gone to the NFL, and the backup OL guys don't get much time.
Gotta evaluate for 2024.
So the blame for the offense is Sam Hartman?Why?
Hes playing very well
That's another bad take
This season is a bust. It matters next to nothing if we end up 10-3 or 8 - 4 in the big picture. We've been there done that over and over again. Going to play in a minor meaningless bowl means little to nothing in terms of W or L for this program. What matters is player development and player evaluation for the younger players who will determine the success of the next few seasons. We can't continue to live every year off the portal for qb s. We've got to grow our own at some point. Imo Hartman should start and play the,1st half in WF game. Then he should sit for next 2.5 games. Angelli plays the entire 2nd half and starts vs Stanford. I would play Minchey the entire 2nd half of the Stanford game. We've got to figure out if we can stay in house for qb next season. The younger guys at the other positions should get significantly more snaps than normal. That's what's best for the program imo.I would build the team for the future and still win. Hartman will not be here next year. Hes not a Notre Dame kid. He's a transfer. We don't have an allegiance to him. Play the young guys and evaluate them if they can be the guys for next year.
No. You can't readSo the blame for the offense is Sam Hartman?
Not much of an argument for meThis season is a bust. It matters next to nothing if we end up 10-2 or 8 - 4 in the big picture. We've been there done that over and over again. Going to play in a minor meaningless bowl means little to nothing in terms of W or L for this program. What matters is player development and player evaluation for the younger players who will determine the success of the next few seasons. We can't continue to live every year off the portal for qb s. We've got to grow our own at some point. Imo Hartman should start and play the,1st half in WF game. Then he should sit for next 2.5 games. Angelli plays the entire 2nd half and starts vs Stanford. I would play Minchey the entire 2nd half of the Stanford game. We've got to figure out if we can stay in house for qb next season. The younger guys at the other positions should get significantly more snaps than normal. That's what's best for the program imo.
Play the players that gives the team the best chance to win.No. You can't read
Wrs, QB and OC are the main reasons the offense is bad
We play all of our wrs and they all have eligibiltiy. Theres nothing we can do there. Theres no more guys to play. They all play
The QB is playing like shit. Straight trash. Hes a transfer. We have no loyalty or allegiance to him. He came here and has played poorly
The Playoffs and NY6 is off the table. We need to get an evaluation on the young QBs on the roster. They need experience. It will help us for next season.
Why keep playing a 6th year guy who is playing poorly and doesn't help us for the future of the program.
Play the kids !!
Straight up garbage.This season is a bust. It matters next to nothing if we end up 10-3 or 8 - 4 in the big picture. We've been there done that over and over again. Going to play in a minor meaningless bowl means little to nothing in terms of W or L for this program. What matters is player development and player evaluation for the younger players who will determine the success of the next few seasons. We can't continue to live every year off the portal for qb s. We've got to grow our own at some point. Imo Hartman should start and play the,1st half in WF game. Then he should sit for next 2.5 games. Angelli plays the entire 2nd half and starts vs Stanford. I would play Minchey the entire 2nd half of the Stanford game. We've got to figure out if we can stay in house for qb next season. The younger guys at the other positions should get significantly more snaps than normal. That's what's best for the program imo.
Not much of an argument for me
How do you really feel?Straight up garbage.
To write "...it means next to nothing...." whether Notre Dame finishes 10-3 or 8-4, I could not disagree more.How do you really feel?