If we can't beat Wake Forest and Stanford with our back up qbs then we flat out SUCK . And don't deserve to win those games. We recruit at a few stratospheres above the Wake Forest and Stanford programs. Winning those games shouldn't be a problem
Fire Parker NOW! Play Minchey
- Thread starter Terry Jillery
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Yes, it does matter if you go 10-3 rather than 8-5. It matters greatly for recruiting, plus the players that are starting have earned the right to finish the season on the field.
A coaching staff does not sit the best players so that they can analyze the younger players to appease a handful of disgruntled fans.
The future of the program means more than Senior day. These players all got a very expensive elite college education for free. Many of them are earning some handsome additional dollars in NIL. I'm not gonna cry for them if they don't play the 2nd half of the WF Senior day game. This isn't High School football
We can still win with our backups. If the QB was playing well, I would agree with you. You cant take him out. That would be wrong. But he's playing like trash
It does Not matter greatly if ND goes 8-5 in terms of recruiting. That's a total canard. It's more of the usual justification from the usual suspects for more of the same old same old results in the ND football program in perpetuity. What matters for recruiting is we lost to a 4-4 Clemson team bc our offense got the ball 5x in a row in 2nd half down a score. And was so offensively inept that not only did they NOT score a tying TD in any of the 5 opportunities. The Offense didn't even cross the 50 yrd line once out of 5x to even flip the field . The ND offense is anemic against good Defense s and it's Offense play calling and scheme is pathetic.
What matters for recruiting is getting speed at the WR position from top Wr recruits who can be dynamic and stretch the field.
Okay, so if the play calling and scheme are pathetic (which I won't argue), how do you evaluate the younger plays based upon that?
As for your comment about "This isn't high school football" you're absolutely correct. You can't have some group of parents piss and moan about the coaches and who's playing and they get their way after they go to the AD or principal. This is big-time D-1 football and the coaches don't and shouldn't care about what fans think or want. They were hired for a reason, in that they know way more about football than all of us.
The one thing ND needs to do is to take a long hard look at the OC, then pony up the cash for an experienced, proven guy.
Bullshit. Tell that to the seniors, many playing their last home game, that the result does not matter. Hell, tell the entire team that the result does not matter.
Again. Garbage.
You're hooked on the Senior Day . It does matter if Win or lose. Just not as important as getting younger players ready for next season. The normal starters start the Senior Day WF game incl Hartman. Hartman plays the 1st half. He already had his Senior Day last year at WF. He's a 1 yr mercenary whose reportedly bagged over 1 million in NIL due to ND. We owe him nothing! ND recruits in the top 10 - 15 range consistently. While WF recruits,in the 50 + range perpetually. For Pete's Sakes we should be able to handle the likes of Wake Forest with our back up qb playing the 2nd half and our younger 4 star recruit back ups getting more snaps in the 2nd half. Senior Day and all its emotional and historic ramifications duly considered...
Bullshit. Stand in front of that team who busts their collective asses all year that the result does not matter, that 8-4 or 10-3 makes no difference.
Garbage.
That is so disrespectful to suggest a move like that. These guys have given their all for countless hours of workouts, practice, watching video, etc.
They deserve to play that day.
I hope our recruited and developed QBs are better than any portal options as well. But, I think the best Portal QBs are looking for a defacto assurance that they will start at a new school, and I think it will cause hesitation to commit to ND for one season after we bench a portal transfer after a team wide poor performance and poor game planning.
You're full of shit. Time to take your medication and have a warm glass of milk. Your circular logic renders this discussion futile. Yes it f cking matters in the specific instance of outcome of the game whether its a W or a L. And no coach is going to tell his team the game doesn't matter. Weak bs post by you. We sign on average btwn 15 to 20 or so 4star recruits every yr come rain or shine. That means we have well over 30 4 stars who play as back ups or rarely see the field. Time to play those guys more over next 3 games to see what we got and give them experience with live bullets. They bust their azzes in pre camp and practices just like the plethora of 5th year starters on this yrs team.
Ist half . And it's not " disrespectful " at all to sit them in the 2nd half imo
What about the second and third stringers that are seniors? You could play them in the second half.
Well, according to what I've been reading in some of these posts, we should be able to beat up on WF with those guys.
So what hurt would that do?
Missing the point. The 5th and 4th yr seniors that don't play won't be here next year. They won't help next year s team . We failed in meeting the goals of this year's team
CFP
or NY6 bowl victory
Playing back up QB in 2nd half and back up 4 star underclassmen makes sense consistent with winning the games and program development. Have a nice rest of your day. Thanks
And taking the chance on losing 2023 games, while being more concerned about 2024 and "player development..," isn't what you do if you are 16-8 Marcus Freeman.
Be 8-3 in 2023, and 17-8.
The games should be over at halftime. If not we've got bigger problems than I imagined. And next yr will be a debacle if we can't give 4 star underclassmen time in the 2nd half against woeful WF and Stanford.
Wake Forest 27- Old Dominion 24
Old Dominion 4-5
Vtech 30- WF 13
Vtech 4-5
I guess on 2nd thought WF is a juggernaut
We make it sound like Parker is game planning 100% to his own preferences, and we’re giving Freeman a pass because he’s a defensive guy. Hell, every defensive guy has an exceptional understanding of offense because they study and scheme to stop offenses. Freeman has said multiple times that he wants ND to be a run dominant offense that grinds defenses down. That is the overarching goal that frames Parker’s offensive game planning. Freeman wants to play a risk adverse offense, and I cringed when I read his statement that the first interception yesterday spooked them and they naturally went back to a run heavy offense scheme. We have multiple problems on offense: backs not picking up the blitz, receivers not getting separation, average at best overall line play, and an experienced QB that looked indecisive without his go to guy Evans. I think the fix begins with Freeman chewing on his position coaches, and telling Parker he’s got the bye week to devise offensive game plans that use the pass to open up our running game. Assessment of every coach should be an annual affair at season’s end, and Parker is no exception.
He looked so good in his t shirt and shorts! In the real world you play the one that has earned the job. 🤔
First off, none of us know if Minchey is even ready. You were b1tching last year about not playing Merriweather, and now that he's playing you clearly see he's still not ready. Same goes for Minchey and Angeli.
You have no clue whether or not Notre Dame can beat WF with backup QB's.
