Looks like you ran his ass off the board. Great job. I’d trade him leaving for you.
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If only there was a way we could judge if ND has had or has NFL caliber players? Something like a...I don't know...event where each team picked NFL eligible college players. They could have several rounds where each team picks a player. THEN you could, theoretically, go to a website and review how many players from each school were drafted and at what position. Seems like that would help end this argument that went on for 40 pages.
If you can’t take the heat stay out of the kitchen !
He made a declarative statement and all I did was ask a question challenging his statement.
If you can’t support or defend statements you make you shouldn't make those statements.
And by the way, I don’t care what you think !
Zorich’s claim was that the 2023 team was loaded with NFL talent at EVERY POSITION.
I asked him, if that was the case, WHY is ND ONLY a 20.5 point favorite over Navy.
He never answered the question.
Instead, like a whining Drama Queen he announces that he’s leaving this site.
OK !
Then why doesn’t your argument apply to you? You have made ridiculous comments since you came here yet when you are called out you go completely off the rails. Backup you statements or shut up.
ND does have a ton of NFL talent on both sides of the ball. Thats why they are 20.5 point favorites
I think we have some good NFL talent, but we are +8.5 dogs at home to Ohio State….
Yeah. Osu has more nfl talent than us. The reason why it's only 8.5 is because of our talent level
8.5 is a very large spread for a home night game. I actually think it’s too many points, but I’ve been wrong before.
I agree, considering home team typically gets 3 which means this is an 11.5 spread at a neutral site, and would be 14.5 at OSU.
Cite my “ridiculous comments”
What statements haven’t I backed up ? Cite the statements that I haven’t backed up!
You keep making that claim but when I challenge you to cite and support your claim you fail to do so, so I’ll ask you again, cite and support your above claims !
if you agree that a team with NO NFL talent should only be a 20.5 underdog against a team “loaded with NFL talent at every position” then you know nothing about football and you know nothing about what constitutes NFL talent.
But that’s no surprise.
We are loaded with NFL talent on both sides of the ball.
Thats why we are a 20.5 point favorite against Navy
And rhats why we'll have multiple people drafted at every single NFL draft for the foreseeable future
How can that be when you supported Zurich’s claim that we are loaded with NFL talent at EVERY position ?
There are only a finite number of positions and if we’re loaded with NFL talent at EVERY position, how can OSU be favored by 8.5 points.
Or, are the 8.5 points due to the coaching staff differences ?
Only TWO (2) ND players were drafted by the NFL in 2022.
20.5 points against Navy is nothing if your team is LOADED WITH NFL TALENT AT EVERY POSITION !
That you don’t know that evidences your close to zero football IQ
Because OSU has even more talent than us.
It's really not that hard to figure out. OSU has top 3 NFL talent in the country. We havetop 10
Why was that hard for you to understand?
Weird for such a smart woman as yourself
3 players were drafted in the 23 class
Last year we had 39 players in the NFL. That was 5th out of all colleges
And we will have more and more players drafted every year like we always do
Thats why we are a 20.5 point favorite against Navy in a neutral sute
When team “A” has no NFL talent at any position and team “B” is loaded with NFL talent at EVERY position, team “B” being favored by ONLY 20.5 points tells you that team “B” is NOT loaded with NFL talent at every position.
‘’Only a know nothing moron would insist otherwise !
That’s your que to enter, stage left !
Pat,
Golson5, IrishJohn68, zorich88, all pretending to be gurus and in the know, when in fact they know very little.
They provide hypotheticals and avoid facts.
A perfect example of this is stating that even though Angeli is QB2, if Hartman should get hurt, Minchey would start even though he's listed as QB3. If this was even remotely true, then Minchey would be listed as QB2 on the depth chart. Like you, I prefer to deal with FACTS.
Sure they are
Thats why they are 5th in NFl players in the league.
And that's why they will have plenty of draft picks in every draft for the foreseeable future
Thats why they are 20.5 point favorite against a ball control team
Simple
No one said that was a fact.
So you just lied and made something up
You are not dealing in facts at all
And yet you forgot the biggest guru of them all,I noticed you left your boyfriend patty out of that list. Interesting
Have someone clue you in that we’re discussing the 2023 team.
History and the stock in the NFL have nothing to do with the 2023 team and the game against Navy.
Here’s some news for you, a ball control team without any NFL talent at any position playing against a team loaded with NFL talent at every position goes 3 and out on almost every possession, ergo 20.5 tells you that Vegas and I agree.
Two things, you don’t know much about football and unfortunately, you’re not very bright !
That’s because Patty knows more about football than you, Zorich and Irishjohn …… combined !
And we're going to have a bunch of players drafted in the NFL every year for the foreseeable future like we always do
That's why we're 20.5 point favorites
I agree with most of your analysis here, but have to question your take on receivers.
What makes you think Colzie is going to play on Sundays? He’s a junior and is 2nd string. You can’t just say someone’s size makes them an NFL player, needs production and by our current depth chart, he hasn’t even had that in camp.
Also, Thomas. He’s 6’1 227. He’s a good college receiver, but he’s far too thick for that height to get open on Sundays. Simply not fast enough in my eyes.
I’m not saying our current receiver room doesn’t have any NFL potential, but it’s very unproven and if the draft was today, nobody would be even close to drafted.
So you think that the 2022 Chicago Bears, the worst team in the NFL with a 3-13 record would only be a 20.5 point favorite against Navy.
Do yourself a favor, stop embarrassing yourself, stop embarrassing yourself with your foolish and ignorant posts.
You don’t know very much about football and you’re certainly not too bright !
Listen, you're embarrssing yourself. Cut your losses.
Comparing the NFL odds to CFB is embarrassing.
You missed the point ….. again.
Zorich maintained that ND was loaded with NFL TALENT at EVERY POSITION.
The Chicago Bears, the worst team in the NFL in 2022 was loaded with NFL talent at every position.
I’m sorry that you unable to grasp and understand the analogy.
I continue to advocate for a minimum IQ test in order to qualify to post on this site.
One can only hope !
That presumes that I had a mind to begin with which is more than I can say for you.
If ND is a team loaded with NFL talent at every position and the worst team in the NFL in 2022, the Chicago Bears, is loaded with NFL talent at every position, would the Bears only be a 20.5 point favorite against Navy ?
If not, how many points do you think the Bears would be favored by ?
You continue to avoid answering my questions because you know that an honest answer, something that you’re incapable of, will prove my point.
I’ve also concluded that your failure to answer my questions is because you’re just not that bright.
Loaded with NFl talent at every position does not mean every player at said position is an NFL player !
You play 3 wrs, if you have 1 NFL wr you still have nfl talent at that position
You play 4 DL, and the same goes with that. If you have 1 NFl player at DL you have nfl talent at that position
It's really not that hard to figure out. He never said every player on the team is an nfl player nor did he conpare a college team to an nfl team
Only an absolute moron would make those leaps like you did.
But that's what is to be expected from an idiot
LOL
You’re just not bright enough to comprehend what he wrote.
He clearly stated that ND was LOADED with NFL TALENT AT EVERY POSITION.
Not just a number of select positions, but EVERY position.
And ND is playing a team with no NFL talent at any position and ND is only a 20.5 point favorite on a neutral site.
You’re just not bright enough to understand the flaw in his assessment of the talent pool at ND as confirmed by the meager point spread given his assessment of the level of talent at every position at ND and the lack of NFL talent at any position at Navy.
You’re being embarrassed by every word you type as they clearly illustrate and highlight your ignorance.
Every word you type detracts from the total sum of human knowledge about football.
But you’ll continue to try to defend your absurd opinion by creating false diversions, false claims.
Just come to grips with the fact that you adopted Zorich’s position just so that you could argue with me.
‘Unfortunately, your argument lacks merit, it lacks the facts and it lacks any form of logic.
You‘re just not bright enough to see and comprehend that !
P.S. His and your position means that ever “starter” possesses NFL talent.
That’s what “loaded with NFL talent at EVERY position“ means !
Have someone with a brain explain that to you.
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