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Then we have to circle back and ask:

What percentage of All Americans get drafted and what percentage of non-All Americans get drafted.

Statistically, which is the higher percentage ?

Everyone one this site knows the answer, even you, but you’re too disingenuous to admit it !
No one in this site cares about that but you
 
I knew that you wouldn’t answer the question.

I hope that ND wins every game, but posturing that ND is a lock to win games against what you deem are pushover opponents is indicative that you’re the one with a low football IQ
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All you do is google information. You have no clue about football.

Let’s go game for game on who ND beats

Again, you want people to answer questions but you cannot answer one simple question.

Chose any of the guys I listed as NFL talent. Tell me why they are not.

But I know you are not capable of that.
 
Yes, you are ranked poorly when you’re “loaded with NFL talent” and you’re only ranked 13th or 14th.

Only someone clueless about the NFL and college football would claim otherwise.
 
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All you do is google information. You have no clue about football.

Let’s go game for game on who ND beats

Again, you want people to answer questions but you cannot answer one simple question.

Chose any of the guys I listed as NFL talent. Tell me why they are not.

But I know you are not capable of that.
You don’t have a clue with regard to where I get my information from.
Hint: Personal experience plays a major role

I’ve forgotten more about football than you’ll ever know !

You stated that ND was “loaded with NFL talent”
”LOADED” !
‘Not just a sprinkling, but LOADED !
Now NFL talent is very exceptional talent.

They’re not because of a number of reasons.
Let‘s start with Mills

1. Could he play in the NFL tomorrow ?
2. Has he been named to any All American team ?
3. Has he been listed as a high draft choice by NFL scouts ?
4. 7th round draft choices have a 30 % or less chance of making an NFL team

Stating that ND is “loaded with NFL talent” is grossly overrating the roster.


I’m hoping that ND can win every game but I’m not about to agree with your absurd assessment of the 2023 roster, that it’s LOADED with NFL talent.
 
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Yes, you are ranked poorly when you’re “loaded with NFL talent” and you’re only ranked 13th or 14th.

Only someone clueless about the NFL and college football would claim otherwise.

Perhaps the teams ranked above ND are loaded with NFL talent too?
 
Perhaps the teams ranked above ND are loaded with NFL talent too?
Then you should be able to name the NFL talent on Tennessee.

Please list them.

Tell us why there isn’t there one All American on Tennessee’s team ?
 
Then you should be able to name the NFL talent on Tennessee.

Please list them.

Tell us why there isn’t there one All American on Tennessee’s team ?
Maybe the same r3ason last year they had 0 preseason all americans and had 5 players drafted in the NFL

But you already know that because you know everything right?
 
Maybe the same r3ason last year they had 0 preseason all americans and had 5 players drafted in the NFL

But you already know that because you know everything right?
Try catching up, we’re talking about 2023 and the teams ranked ahead of ND in 2023 !
 
You don’t have a clue with regard to where I get my information from.
Hint: Personal experience plays a major role

I’ve forgotten more about football than you’ll ever know !

You stated that ND was “loaded with NFL talent”
”LOADED” !
‘Not just a sprinkling, but LOADED !
Now NFL talent is very exceptional talent.

They’re not because of a number of reasons.
Let‘s start with Mills

1. Could he play in the NFL tomorrow ?
2. Has he been named to any All American team ?
3. Has he been listed as a high draft choice by NFL scouts ?
4. 7th round draft choices have a 30 % or less chance of making an NFL team

Stating that ND is “loaded with NFL talent” is grossly overrating the roster.


I’m hoping that ND can win every game but I’m not about to agree with your absurd assessment of the 2023 roster, that it’s LOADED with NFL talent.
If a player gets drafted past the 5th round, that team that drafted him believes he is “NFL TALENTED”.

Rylie Mills will get drafted.

He has NFL talent and ability.

Loaded means a team has NFL talent at every position.

Notre Dame has that.

You know very little about football. Every post you make proves that.

Just be a fan. Your football IQ is pathetic.
 
If a player gets drafted past the 5th round, that team that drafted him believes he is “NFL TALENTED”.

Rylie Mills will get drafted.

He has NFL talent and ability.

Loaded means a team has NFL talent at every position.

Notre Dame has that.

You know very little about football. Every post you make proves that.

Just be a fan. Your football IQ is pathetic.
You’re delusional !

If ND had NFL talent at every position they’d run the table and they’d run the table by wide margins.

My football IQ may be pathetic but it’s exponentially higher than yours.

You’re embarrassingly clueless !
 
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Try catching up, we’re talking about 2023 and the teams ranked ahead of ND in 2023 !
Your point was made foolish

2022 Tennessee had 0 all americans preseason and wasnt ranked. Then they had 5 players get drafted to the NFL

So both your points you tried making got shut down

Nice try though
 
Then you should be able to name the NFL talent on Tennessee.

Please list them.

Tell us why there isn’t there one All American on Tennessee’s team ?

All-American and NFL talent are two separate categories. Their QB Joe Milton certainly has an NFL arm.
 
Your point was made foolish

2022 Tennessee had 0 all americans preseason and wasnt ranked. Then they had 5 players get drafted to the NFL

So both your points you tried making got shut down

Nice try though
You’re too stupid to understand that we’re talking about the 2023 rankings and the fact that Tennessee, absent any All Americans, let alone NFL talent at every position, which is what Zorich claims, is ranked ahead of ND.

Have someone with a brain explain this to you.
 
All-American and NFL talent are two separate categories. Their QB Joe Milton certainly has an NFL arm.
Correct, and NFL talent is superior to All American talent.

Tennessee doesn’t have one player named to any All American team.
But Zorich claims that ND has NFL talent at EVERY position.

So how can Tennessee be ranked higher than ND if ND has NFL talent at every position and Tennessee doesn’t have a single All American ?

Tennessee doesn’t even have one player named to the first team All SEC team

But according to Zorich, we have NFL talent at every position

You, Zorich and Golson have to be the dumbest football fans on the planet if you don’t understand the absurdity of Zorich’s claim that we have NFL talent at every position, yet we’re ranked 13/14, behind a team without one All American or one single first team All SEC team

You all have to be beyond obtuse to not understand how flawed Zorich’s claim is.
 
You’re too stupid to understand that we’re talking about the 2023 rankings and the fact that Tennessee, absent any All Americans, let alone NFL talent at every position, which is what Zorich claims, is ranked ahead of ND.

Have someone with a brain explain this to you.
Wow you really are dumb
 
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You’re delusional !

If ND had NFL talent at every position they’d run the table and they’d run the table by wide margins.

My football IQ may be pathetic but it’s exponentially higher than yours.

You’re embarrassingly clueless !
You are hilarious and delusional.

Oline multiple players with NFL talent. You agree with that.

QB- Sam will get drafted

RB- Estime he had NFL scouts watching last season. Strong powerful RB.

WR- Lots of athletes in that room.
Cozie and Thomas fit the bill. Both Juniors.
Cozie 6’4 JT 6’2 both have NFL bodies.
Yes, they gotta show this season they are consistent enough to play on Sunday's,
Both have great hands. Cozie has a great catch radius. Both will play on Sunday’s.

TE- Notre Dame is TE U. Someone at that position will get drafted. My first choice is Evans. Came back from an early injury. Caught the game winner vs S. Carolina.

Dline- Mills, and JJB the edge rusher from OSU. Mills as a super high football IQ. He can play against odd and even fronts. Probably a day 2 pick. But his size 6’5 300 and arm length are exactly hat the NFL is looking for. Great motor.

JJB- A monster pass rusher. 6’5 255 athlete. Did not get a lot of opportunities last season. Will start for ND. Could easily lead the team in sacks. He will be a handful for any Oline.

LB- yup, weak spot on the team. I don’t see any getting drafted. Maybe one of the freshmen or Sneed????

DB- Hart will get drafted late. He probably would have gotten drafted last season if he didn’t get hurt.
Morrison is a no brainer NFL pick

That’s every position

LB is the only position that currently lacks a drafted player.
 
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You are hilarious and delusional.

Oline multiple players with NFL talent. You agree with that.

QB- Sam will get drafted

RB- Estime he had NFL scouts watching last season. Strong powerful RB.

WR- Lots of athletes in that room.
Cozie and Thomas fit the bill. Both Juniors.
Cozie 6’4 JT 6’2 both have NFL bodies.
Yes, they gotta show this season they are consistent enough to play on Sunday's,
Both have great hands. Cozie has a great catch radius. Both will play on Sunday’s.

TE- Notre Dame is TE U. Someone at that position will get drafted. My first choice is Evans. Came back from an early injury. Caught the game winner vs S. Carolina.

Dline- Mills, and JJB the edge rusher from OSU. Mills as a super high football IQ. He can play against odd and even fronts. Probably a day 2 pick. But his size 6’5 300 and arm length are exactly hat the NFL is looking for. Great motor.

JJB- A monster pass rusher. 6’5 255 athlete. Did not get a lot of opportunities last season. Will start for ND. Could easily lead the team in sacks. He will be a handful for any Oline.

LB- yup, weak spot on the team. I don’t see any getting drafted. Maybe one of the freshmen or Sneed????

DB- Hart will get drafted late. He probably would have gotten drafted last season if he didn’t get hurt.
Morrison is a no brainer NFL pick

That’s every position

LB is the only position that currently lacks a drafted player.
“Hilarious“, yes, “delusional”, no !

Your statement that ND has NFL talent at every position is delusional !


When dealing with you, Golson, BGI1596 and others, I’ve come to the conclusion that you can’t cure delusional and you can’t cure stupid !

With NFL talent at every position how do you explain why ND is currently an underdog against OSU, USC and Clemson ?

I‘m a diehard ND fan, I’m just not an oblivious and/or a delusional fanatic !
 
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Wow do I miss the days of WAX! Why doesn’t the mods take charge and kick some of you assholes out of here. All you do is fight. Grow up!
 
“Hilarious“, yes, “delusional”, no !

Your statement that ND has NFL talent at every position is delusional !


When dealing with you, Golson, BGI1596 and others, I’ve come to the conclusion that you can’t cure delusional and you can’t cure stupid !

With NFL talent at every position how do you explain why ND is currently an underdog against OSU, USC and Clemson ?

I‘m a diehard ND fan, I’m just not an oblivious and/or delusional fanatic !
SMH in total unbelief!!!!!

You just named 3 teams that are also loaded with NFL talent.

Someone has to be favored, correct???

Georgia played Bama for a championship right? Both teams were filled with NFL talent right? Someone was favored right?????

Those three teams being favored over ND does not in anyway diminish the talent ND has.
 
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Wow do I miss the days of WAX! Why doesn’t the mods take charge and kick some of you assholes out of here. All you do is fight. Grow up!
It’s not fighting, it’s debating and there’s nothing wrong with having differing opinions and engaging in ardent debates.

I enjoy having a battle of wits, but I don’t enjoy battling with unarmed men !
 
Wow do I miss the days of WAX! Why doesn’t the mods take charge and kick some of you assholes out of here. All you do is fight. Grow up!
Classic. This coming from one of the biggest assholes on this forum. 😂
 
SMH in total unbelief!!!!!

You just named 3 teams that are also loaded with NFL talent.

Someone has to be favored, correct???

Georgia played Bama for a championship right? Both teams were filled with NFL talent right? Someone was favored right?????

Those three teams being favored over ND does not in anyway diminish the talent ND has.
You stated that ND is loaded with NFL talent at every position, which is absurd, and now you’re claiming that OSU, USC and Clemson are filled with even more NFL talent.

If that was the case ND would be favored by 80+ points over Navy
 
You stated that ND is loaded with NFL talent at every position, which is absurd, and now you’re claiming that OSU, USC and Clemson are filled with even more NFL talent.

If that was the case ND would be favored by 80+ points over Navy
Man, are you serious?????

Did I say they had more talent??? Nope! Simply said “You just named 3 teams that are also loaded with NFL talent.”

If Bama played Navy they wouldn’t be favored by that lol.

Bottom line:
Do you believe ND currently has NFL talent??

I am assuming yes. So, tell me. Out of each position I named, which does not have NFL talent????
 
I dont diasagree. But your boy is a total douche.

He starts some of the most ridiculous arguments
He's not my boy, but I've met Pat and he's a good person. As he's stated, he's engaging g in debate.
 
He's not my boy, but I've met Pat and he's a good person. As he's stated, he's engaging g in debate.
Nah. He makes ridiculous points and then tries to argue about the silliest weirdest points

He may be a good person but on here he acts like a total douche
 
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I dont diasagree. But your boy is a total douche.

He starts some of the most ridiculous arguments
You jumped in and engaged in the argument, you just took the moronic side and exposed and embarrassed yourself as a know nothing.

My position, argument and logic are rock solid.

Your position is completely untenable !

But then again you made a bad decision, you decided to take Zurich’s side just to argue with me, without giving sufficient thought to the insanity of Zorich’s position.


Only an uninformed fanatic lacking any semblance of a football IQ would state that ND has NFL talent at EVERY position. But you did !
 
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Nah. He makes ridiculous points and then tries to argue about the silliest weirdest points

He may be a good person but on here he acts like a total douche
My argument is factually and logically sound, your argument is without facts and lacks merit.

You’ve lied and have been disingenuous on numerous occasions when debating me and others, so if anybody’s a douche, it’s YOU !
 
Man, are you serious?????

Did I say they had more talent??? Nope! Simply said “You just named 3 teams that are also loaded with NFL talent.”

If Bama played Navy they wouldn’t be favored by that lol.

Bottom line:
Do you believe ND currently has NFL talent??

I am assuming yes. So, tell me. Out of each position I named, which does not have NFL talent????
You can’t be that obtuse, don’t you understand that they wouldn’t be favored unless they had more talent !

Do yourself a favor, stop making a fool of yourself.

As to your question, I think that some of the players may have potential NFL talent
 
Zorich,

Explain to me how a team with NFL talent at every position is only a 20.5 favorite over Navy.
 
NDinNJ.....

See what I mean. Ridiculous silly question. Weird question too. Lack of football intelligence type question.

Just a total douche
Golson you and I butt heads a lot but man, Pat is the biggest waste of time on this board. You and I don’t agree a lot but at least you have a high football IQ.

Pat is a complete joke.
 
You can’t be that obtuse, don’t you understand that they wouldn’t be favored unless they had more talent !

Do yourself a favor, stop making a fool of yourself.

As to your question, I think that some of the players may have potential NFL talent
I will no longer talk football with you. If you wanna keep addressing me I will just simply post “Pat you are embarrassing yourself”

That is all you will get from me.
 
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