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P.S. His and your position means that ever “starter” possesses NFL talent.

That’s what “loaded with NFL talent at EVERY position“ means !

Have someone with a brain explain that to you.
No it doesn't.

There are 5 OL. He nor I meant all 5 OL are going to the nfl

Only you would be that dumb

Lol. You are something to laugh at that is for sure
 
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You’re just not bright enough to comprehend what he wrote.

He clearly stated that ND was LOADED with NFL TALENT AT EVERY POSITION.

Not just a number of select positions, but EVERY position.

And ND is playing a team with no NFL talent at any position and ND is only a 20.5 point favorite on a neutral site.

You’re just not bright enough to understand the flaw in his assessment of the talent pool at ND as confirmed by the meager point spread given his assessment of the level of talent at every position at ND and the lack of NFL talent at any position at Navy.

You’re being embarrassed by every word you type as they clearly illustrate and highlight your ignorance.

Every word you type detracts from the total sum of human knowledge about football.

But you’ll continue to try to defend your absurd opinion by creating false diversions, false claims.

Just come to grips with the fact that you adopted Zorich’s position just so that you could argue with me.
‘Unfortunately, your argument lacks merit, it lacks the facts and it lacks any form of logic.

You‘re just not bright enough to see and comprehend that !
I think Nd has a nfl player at every position on the roster
 
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No it doesn't.

There are 5 OL. He nor I meant all 5 OL are going to the nfl

Only you would be that dumb

Lol. You are something to laugh at that is for sure
You really aren’t very bright, in fact it’s hard to believe that someone could be so obtuse, so I’ll explain it to you.

When Zorich stated that ND was loaded with NFL talent at EVERY position, inherently, that means that EVERY starter possesses NFL talent. In the context of his posts EVERY position implies and equates to EVERY starter

Now I realize that particular logic and geometric like reasoning are beyond your ability to comprehend, so please ask someone with a brain to explain it to you.

Stop trying to change Zorich’s statement in an attempt to divert and deflect attention away from your absurd position.

I didn’t think that anyone who posts on this site could be as dumb as you’ve proven yourself to be, but your posts have revealed that your not very bright.

And I’m sorry to say that the sad part is that you can’t cure dumb !
 
That would mean that 26 out of 85 players on the 2023 team will play in the NFL.

What would you like to bet on that ?

It depends on how closely define the term "position". For example, many offensive linemen play all three positions. So on offense you have QB, RB, OL, TE, and WR. It would not surprise me at all if ND has all those positions see SOMEONE get at least a cup of coffee in the NFL. Punter and placekicker are the positions that are least likely to be filled.
 
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Yeah. Osu has more nfl talent than us. The reason why it's only 8.5 is because of our talent level
The reason it's only 8.5 is because no one knows what to expect from the supposedly improved OSU defense this year. I want to see it first. Heck, with an even high school defense last year, they probably hold onto to that 14 point, 4th quarter lead against Georgia in the Playoffs (losing 42-41) and win the NC
 
The reason it's only 8.5 is because no one knows what to expect from the supposedly improved OSU defense this year. I want to see it first. Heck, with an even high school defense last year, they probably hold onto to that 14 point, 4th quarter lead against Georgia in the Playoffs (losing 42-41) and win the NC
They don't score 42 with this offense
 
if you agree that a team with NO NFL talent should only be a 20.5 underdog against a team “loaded with NFL talent at every position” then you know nothing about football and you know nothing about what constitutes NFL talent.

But that’s no surprise.
I never said ND is loaded at every position. I said Navy doesn’t have any NFL talent. However Navy likes to make everything into a dog fight.
 
I think Nd has a nfl player at every position on the roster
To be clear, our bet is that out of all the players on the 2023 team, freshman, sophomores, Juniors, Seniors and 5th year players, that in year 2027, players from every position on the 2023 team will be playing that position in the NFL.

Please confirm
 
I never said ND is loaded at every position. I said Navy doesn’t have any NFL talent. However Navy likes to make everything into a dog fight.
You jumped on Zorich’s and Golson’s bandwagon, and they stated that ND is loaded with NFL talent at every position.

Then you stated that Navy has no NFL talent at any position.

Given the above two statements, how can ND only be a 20.5 point favorite ?
 
When team “A” has no NFL talent at any position and team “B” is loaded with NFL talent at EVERY position, team “B” being favored by ONLY 20.5 points tells you that team “B” is NOT loaded with NFL talent at every position.

‘’Only a know nothing moron would insist otherwise !

That’s your que to enter, stage left !
I don’t even understand what the hell you are arguing about. Don’t you want ND to be a bigger favorite? 20.5 points isn’t enough for you?
 
P.S. His and your position means that ever “starter” possesses NFL talent.

That’s what “loaded with NFL talent at EVERY position“ means !

Have someone with a brain explain that to you.
Since when do you make up the rules. Your definition of loaded is puzzling?
 
You jumped on Zorich’s and Golson’s bandwagon, and they stated that ND is loaded with NFL talent at every position.

Then you stated that Navy has no NFL talent at any position.

Given the above two statements, how can ND only be a 20.5 point favorite ?
What do you think the point spread should be big guy?
 
What do you think the point spread should be big guy?
I don’t know !

Professionals, who are a lot smarter and far more experienced than me, professionals who do it for a living set the spread.

What I do know is that if a team that was loaded with NFL talent at every position was playing a team with no NFL talent at any position, the point spread would be higher than 20.5 points
 
Since when do you make up the rules. Your definition of loaded is puzzling?
I didn’t introduce the term “loaded” Zorich did.

But he went further, he stated that ND was “loaded with NFL talent at every position.”

That statement is self evident and needs no further explanation
 
I don’t know !

Professionals, who are a lot smarter and far more experienced than me, professionals who do it for a living set the spread.

What I do know is that if a team that was loaded with NFL talent at every position was playing a team with no NFL talent at any position, the point spread would be higher than 20.5 points
No seriously big boy, what do you think the point spread should be? If you aren’t going to give an answer then you need to keep quiet.
 
I didn’t introduce the term “loaded” Zorich did.

But he went further, he stated that ND was “loaded with NFL talent at every position.”

That statement is self evident and needs no further explanation
A lot of posters here seem to think differently than you.
 
A lot of posters here seem to think differently than you.
A lot of people thought that the world was flat.

1. I don’t care what other posters think !
2. I think more posters agree with me.
3. Let me correct that, I think that more, intelligent posters agree with me !
 
No seriously big boy, what do you think the point spread should be? If you aren’t going to give an answer then you need to keep quiet.
I’ll answer the question by stating that I’m not going to disagree with Vegas.

Are you that obtuse and that delusional to think that I would ever listen to you ?
 
23 freshman
24
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27

5 years. After the 28 draft we will k ow how many players were drafted from this team
No, only players on this years team/roster,
That would be current freshman, sophomores, juniors, Seniors and 5th year players

What amount ?
 
I provided you with the point spread, you’re just too obtuse to know it
I’m asking what is Pat’s personal point spread? We all know that Las Vegas spread is 20.5. Since you are the smartest poster here, what is your personal spread is?

You call everyone else out big boy, what say you?
 
No, only players on this years team/roster,
That would be current freshman, sophomores, juniors, Seniors and 5th year players

What amount ?
Yes. The 23 class, current freshman, would be on the 28 draft class if they stay 5 years

Your choice
 
The reason it's only 8.5 is because no one knows what to expect from the supposedly improved OSU defense this year. I want to see it first. Heck, with an even high school defense last year, they probably hold onto to that 14 point, 4th quarter lead against Georgia in the Playoffs (losing 42-41) and win the NC
It's conditional probability. Vegas needs to weigh the chance that we have a bad team along with estimating how many games a good team would win. The chance of going 3-0 against anOSU, SC, and Clem is very low. But it goes up more than 2/3 if we start 2-0 because it means ND is [likely to be] better than expected.
 
I’m asking what is Pat’s personal point spread? We all know that Las Vegas spread is 20.5. Since you are the smartest poster here, what is your personal spread is?

You call everyone else out big boy, what say you?
Here’s what I say: YOU’RE A MORON !

I call those out for misstating or misrepresenting the facts and for employing flawed logic.

Predicting an outcome over an event that I have no influence over and don’t control is beyond my skill set.

As in medicine I rely on the experts, so I’m not about contradict them.

Our passing game could get hot and score a lot of points or Navy could dominate TOP and keep the score low, so 20.5 points doesn’t seem unreasonable.

Any number that I pick would be a guess, Vegas is predicting a score of approximately 35-15

Have someone explain to you the difference between misstating existing facts and predicting the future.

FACT: You’re a moron !
Predicting the future: You’ll be a moron tomorrow and in the days that follow ! 😜
 
Yes. The 23 class, current freshman, would be on the 28 draft class if they stay 5 years

Your choice
It’s confined to those player on the current team and the NFL draft for those players on the current team playing in years 2023, 2024, 2025 and 2026.

What amount ?
 
The polls are meaningful in that the committee uses them to count your record vs. ranked teams.
Not really. This isn’t 1989 or whatever. They have much better tools at their disposal (e.g., game dominance, per play dominance, etc.). The rankings of these teams doesn’t matter at all. If you look at the power indexes that they look at, sometimes you’ll see teams that have not so good records and not so good rankings, but they have other things going through them.
 
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